well I WAS talking about the VE (with tranny), then my a.d.d. kicked in and asked about the VLSD

 

the motors are fine, it's the owners procrastinating that is the problem.
it's part of the reason I haven't had a VG yet.

 

i think the nissan used the vg instead of the vg in racing because there is a whole lot more fabrication need for the ve. and it was a "new" but not completely new setup. i read somewhere that nissan was using vtc's way b-4 the ve so thats y i say that

 

Like clacking ALL the time or is there a light in the dash?

 

clacking at all is a warning sign

 

because the VE is exclusive to the 92-94 Maxima SE. If they raced anything with a 3.0L V6, that wasn't a maxima, they would not be using the VE. And since they would have had to adapt a FWD VE engine to a RWD car for most types of racing, they would rather have an already-established-in-all-drivetrain-layouts VG for that job.

 

It's simple enough to me. I own a VG, and I own a VE.

In my opinion, the VE outdoes the VG in almost every way.

Better Suspension
Better High End
Stock VLSD
Coil on Plugs instead of Distributor
More Aesthetically appealing
Better High End
Stronger Transmission
30 More HP
Less "Go-Kart" feel
Better High End

It's just an overall different ride, the VG always feels go-karty to me which I don't like. The VE just has a more performance oriented type ride.

 

typically gokart feel is a good thing when it comes to performance.

 

one thing after owning 2 VG and 1 VE. Parts for the VG seem to be easier to find and slightly cheaper. However at high RPM's the VE has a sweeter note and seems to like to be pushed. I look at my current VG as just a good reliable setup that's easy to maintain (not that the VE isn't) and has enough power to enter traffic and make passes without a big commotion.

 

can we just say that all 3rd gens are great?

 

For me I have owned both and have the exact opposite view. The VG is much more enjoyable than the VE was. The VG is way more torque-y. OF course the VG has been built up and the VE was stock. I also like the VG note better than the VE. The VG sounds more muscluar while the VE sounds like an import. I definitely second the fact that VG parts are easier to find, probably because it was used in more applications.

I fail to see how a VE could feel more "go kart like" when they both have the exact same suspension components.

To each their own.

 

i think some maxs didn't have a starter. You had to open the hood, prime, then yank the pull start string like a lawn mower. Thus it was go-karty ha ha ha

 

which trim is your VG? GXE or SE... if it'se GXE then of course the suspensio is different than the SE. Plus i heard that a 89-91 SE has a different strut/spring rate setup than the 92-94 SE.

 

VG's have cast aluminum pistons, aluminum heads, and forged steel connecting rods, but an iron crank.

http://www.vg30et.com/about.html (link is about VG30ET, but the two engines are virtually identical and are the same in this respect)

 

Isn't the question about the motor itself, not the car ? I'm new here but most of the items listed are not related to the motor itself.

 

When I think of VE and VG I think the applications they were used in. Not specifically the engine since you couldn't really put a VE in a VG car and vice versa without major modifications and electrical/Tranny work. Either way, since we're dealing with 15 year old cars here, it may just be that the VG felt more like a "go-kart" because the engine is more torquey, doesn't like high end, and has an overall "zip" feel to it, where-as the VE feels more stable at high speeds and really likes to be opened up. Both of my cars were 92-94 (So my VG is apparently a GXE) so I couldn't really compare that with the SE's suspension. Although from what I've read the 92-94 SE does have a better, and stiffer suspension setup than the previous 89-91 SE.

Either way, both of my cars are automatic and I'm sure I'd need to drive both of them with 5-speeds before making a definite decision. But as of now, the VE application, engine, and car (92-94 SE) just feels better.

 

In the past 6 years I have owned them all.
VE, VG, VQ

VG - Old Technology and the motor itselft was ugly. The reason nissan decided to supercharge and turbocharge this motor was because they had been making the motor for 10 years and had plenty of extra parts left over.

VQ - Good all around motor but it had its upsets in the everyday driving, it almost felt like it was choking itself out at high end.

VE - This motor was ahead of its time before they ever released it. Good looking motor, responds to mods very well and sounds good. Its definitely not for the guys that are new to working on there own stuff because I have guys that work at nissan calling me for help on these.

I guess the answer would go like this.

If I was young and very broke I would buy a VG because they are a dime a dozen.

If I needed a everyday "Family car" that was reliable day in and day out I would buy the VQ.

If I want to win at the track I would buy the VE.

Plus everyone knows VE = Vette Eater.

 

hmm i dont know how to take that... you think the vg is ugly? its nice and symmetrical looking if you ask me

 

i VG with LSD manual hmm.... and VG's i believe have a lower compression easier for turboing. not to mention they share turbo manifolds with the old Z's.

-B

 

My vg sounds better then any VE. That is all

 

I always thought the VE's were the ugly engine. I don't like the look of coil packs.

To each there own, right?

 

That which is cleanest looks... bestest. Since they are both under a hood though, who cares.

Never heard a VG up close, but I love the VE sound north of 4K.

 

The VG and VE have the same bolt pattern so you can put it any where a VG goes.

And for who ever said the VQ was almost equivalent to a VE thats definitly not true. The VE has a closed deck iron block, different valve angle, 87mm bore, 83mm stroke, VTC. The VQ has an alu open deck block, diff valve angle, 93mm bore 73.3mm stroke, no vtc. Both have different rods and crank of course and cams and all that fun stuff.

Yes they are DOHC 3L v6's but after that they are very different. A VG30DE is far closer to a VE30DE then a VQ30DE.

~Alex

 

I gave a J30t a run for his money today and he got pwned cuz he couldn't get in front of me before reaching the semi in front of him therefore having to go behind me instead...does that make my VG more special than his?

 

Yea special john was driving

~Alex

 

The VG's are great for making great power on a budget. For the price of a 300ZX turbo parts car ($500 or sometimes less) you can turbocharge your Maxima. It only gets better from there .

 

im specialer

 

Thats great if you want to turbo your max, but if you wanted to go with N/A power the VE is a better canidate