So this is an old thread and you never did say how they ride... AND DONT EVEN LINK ME TO POST 13! Were they worth the 40 bucks?

Got a link to the order site?

 

They ride nicely john,much improved over the old rubber bushings..


http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...t_Code=7-3117G

 

order from suspension.com

they're nicer and better people than Courtesy.

 

Do you think they will match Courtesy's price?

 

Maybe I should do that when I swap out the rear drum brakes to disk.

 

it's worth the extra $3.50 not to give any money to Steve Richardson.

 

to you maybe, but most people here wouldn't even spend $.01 extra to avoid buying from a murderer.

 

So, what's the story here? The head of Courtesy Nissan's a murderer!?

 

look up all the stuff about courtesy in the feedback forum. let's just say their reputation isn't so stellar......

 

How do the energy suspension poly bushings compare to Matt's spherical Heim links in terms of performance/ feel?

 

the performance of the heims is much greater, but the heims have some noise associated with them over bumpy roads when you're going slow. at highway speeds I can't tell a difference in the noise- just the handling.

the poly bushings are great for a daily driver.. unless you're an autoxer or want the badass stuff, I'd recommend just going with the poly. the performance difference is definitely there, but I'm not sure if I'd be willing to pay an additional $300 for it unless I was looking for times.

 

What kind of parallel links are those? How much did you get them for?
aaaannnndd.... why is only 1 side of parallel link adjustable? Shouldn't both sides be adjustable?

gahh! don't hit me if there's only 1 obvious suppliers of the links (ie. Intrax)... if so, where did you get 'em? Will they give me a hook up

FYI...
going to suspension.com to bring pain to my funds

 

dood.. they're STOCK. he just stuck the energy suspension bushings in them and possibly painted them..

only 1 side is adjustable because that's all you need to adjust the toe. making the other side adjustable would allow you to adjust camber in the rear as well, but most people never have an issue with it.

 

They are the stock links,i just painted them up nicely to prevent further rust issues..



You only need to adjust rear toe in-out when aligning the rear suspension(like the front) so only one side of the links need to be adjustable..

 

i type sloooow..

hi matt..

 

yes... just came out from under my car (went under to see if I'm even capable of doing such a job)

and coming up realizing what a totally dumb question i asked and ran to the PC to edit... but to my demise, I'm too late...

 

Thank you sir, will be ordering em tonight. Gonna be getting rear disc swap parts Saturday from JY, spotted couple candidates...I'm gonna take the parallel links as well so I have a spare set to sand(blast) and paint so when the bushings arrive I can just install em with teh washers and toss em on along with a nice sand(blasted) and painted strut assemblies as well.

Gotta make sure they're equally screwed as the ones on my car so I dont mess up my recent alightment right?

 

Yeah,but you should still run it across the alignment rack after you replace the bushings.

 

dammit! lol I've got a lot going on for the next week or two.

*detailing engine bay one last time before I put my new undercarriage splashguards

*rear disc swap

*parallel link busings

*alignment

 

So I just ordered em' right now, sorry Matt I got em from the murderers cuz I only had $40 bucks even left over and order came out to 39.30 lol
Why is CN bad?

Called and asked if they came with Washers as well and they said they did.

 

So I got my bushings today and got all excited that I was gonna do em this weekend but guess what, please tell me its not a mistake and this is ok. One of the bushings is smaller than all 15. heres a pic.

 

It is a mistake,and it's not ok...contact them..

 

nope.. they fooked you man. they should all be the same size.
.... and there's no washers in there either.. shoulda been washers. ES likes to forget them on a regular basis.

 

404 error: washers not found...go to the hardware store and spend $.37 or whatever on some washers...it's a safety issue and I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to sue ES over it at some point or another...I was mid-way through a shrinking-radius turn at about 80mph when one of my bushings decided to "step up" over the ledge on the parallel link. It resulted in snap-oversteer and it was all I could do to keep the car in control with the suspension loaded like that...Needless to say I added washers to the setup the next day...I think I even posted a thread about it...

 

I will be making a call later during the day to demand the right bushing AND the washers. I'm not gonna go spend damn .37 cents when they shoud've been included

 

John,i have an extra poly bushing from my kit,i'lll be glad to throw it in an envelope for you..

Then you can just stop by the hardware store and pick up some washers..

 

Thanks Wayne, if worse comes to worst...I might have to bug you. but for now I shall call em 2352 is the number for all 15 and 2335 is the number for the small one, you can def tell there was a mix up

 

just as an aside, I'm in talks with another company that makes direct fit poly bushings for the third gen like OE, just they run about 2-3x the ES price

 

The rear one,or all? (imho a direct fit front bushing would be kinda pointless)

 

all.

 

Alright, so I called Courtesy this morning and told em I got wrong/incomplete set and they said they'd send me a replacement. He checked all the boxes and non of em' had washers so I'll just get em here. He made sure there were 8 sleeves and 16 bushings along with 3 bags of lube. Guess Wayne got lucky with a spare.

When I asked if I'd have em by the weekend cuz thats when I planned on doing the job, he promptly said that wouldn't be a problem and he would overnight em along with a return label for the other kit. I thought that was nice. I checked the UPS tracking and they're in Louiseville, KY at the moment.

 

wayne got the one you were supposed to have. apparently.

 

heh... courtesy must be finally hearing of their bad rap....
2 years ago, they wouldn't even overnight a part that was their screwup and had my car stranded on jackstands waiting on a replacement....

 

why do we use them anyways? better prices? better availability? the diagrams are nice but you can printscreen and take it to the dealer. Unless it's stuff that most dealers don't have.

 

Hmm I just woke up and found out I got the bushings 2 hours ago...that sure made my day from the start

Matt any kinda of washers are fine as long as they're 5/8 right?

 

Your run-o-the mill dealership doesn't carry Energy suspension bushings..

 

Ok, so I got everything done. wire brushed on grinding wheel, sandblasted, rust-o-leomed links and 'crossmember' aka subframe. Paint came out ok cuz the weather didnt help cold + rain

Bushings did definately make ride more solid feeling like as in new car solid. Quieter and less clunky in the rear.

Thanks for the idea Wayne!!

PS. are there any other ES bushings that they make for the 3rd gen?

 

do you recall with which Courtesy parts person you spoke with?

 

I dont but I do know that parts did transfer me to customer service in which I didnt get an answer but rather an answering machine. Very professional, I got a call in less than 30 minutes. Based on my message which included my name and phone number he already knew what I had ordered before me even mentioning...I dont know I guess I found it professional IMO.

Matt, if they were crap before, I either got lucky or they have realized that and have been working on correcting themselves.

 

Alright guys, after noticing such improvement with poly bushings I've been looking around for others to replace but havent found much.

Dont know if this has been known or not but for other fellow noobs, I just did a bit of research and found out through Courtesypart.com that:

3rd gen front swaybar to frame bushing part number is: 54613
4th gen front swaybar to frame bushing part number isL 54613

ES's part number for frontswaybar to frame bushing part number is 7.5118 which I believe will fit our cars

On Energysuspension.com there's no listing for 3rd gens whatsoever but they're the same.

Let me know if this is already something known I was unaware of...