3rd Gen Stereo installs
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alright, i guess i will have to get new speakers then. I have a few questions though, is there any need to replace the factory wiring? Also is the only piece i need for my new head unit going to be the wiring harness to make it work with new speakers and factory wires?, also what size speakers should I put in the back and what size in the front doors, and, since I am going to put in new speakers I would like to add some tweeters to the front. Since there is no factory wiring their, Would i be able to just run it from the door speakers or would I have to go all the way back to the Head Unit?
You will only need speakers, a wiring harness, a head unit and some normal tools.
For a 3rd Gen. Bose equipt system the front doors contain pods that are not a standard size. Your best bet is to take your car to a local car audio shop after you buy all the parts and pay $50 for them to install it. Be sure to ask for decent front door mounts (I.E. Weather sealed 1/2"-3/4" MDF).
The rear speaker size is 6x9.
To add tweeters you will want to purchase a crossover that will meet your needs. You will also need to add a capacitor to each speaker to keep the regulated impedance around 4ohms. Discuss this with a local car audio shop and they will advise you on what capacitors you will need, Radio Shack carries a decent stock of them.
Adding tweeters might become to much work for the outcome.
Originally posted by Ojmac92SE
You were amplifying a pre-amplified signal if you tapped in after the bose amps. That is why it got loud, and distorted I would imagine.
What kind of after-market Headunit is it? Also, define the voltage on the RCA out for your sub.
Did you bridge the amp? If so, check to insure you did it correctly.
Lastly, describe the coverter you used. Make/Model/Part number, would help.
You were amplifying a pre-amplified signal if you tapped in after the bose amps. That is why it got loud, and distorted I would imagine.
What kind of after-market Headunit is it? Also, define the voltage on the RCA out for your sub.
Did you bridge the amp? If so, check to insure you did it correctly.
Lastly, describe the coverter you used. Make/Model/Part number, would help.
As for bridging my amp, I don't know how my brother did it. But, I know that it's simple. just one HU, a sub, and an amp. that's it. He tapped into the power antenna to let my system know when to turn on and off.
My converter was very old. I don't have the slightest clue on what kind of converter it was. If I had to guess, it was the cheapest one on the market at around 1995.
I hope this helps you in diagnosing my quiet subwoofer problem. My brother said he will check the wiring to insure that it's done correctly. Thanks for your help.
Originally posted by Shugarhi
by the way matt, you're an IASCA competitor right? i think i remember you saying you were, anyways, i was wondering if you have ever ported your rear deck for a little SPL gain... hit me back on this
by the way matt, you're an IASCA competitor right? i think i remember you saying you were, anyways, i was wondering if you have ever ported your rear deck for a little SPL gain... hit me back on this
But if the subs you're using are designed for a ported box (I was using JL 10W6s, and built the box originally large enough for a ported enclosure-3.0 cu ft, then stuck fillers in it to size the box down to 2.0 cu ft).. you shouldn't have a problem porting it through the rear deck for some more SPL.
Another problem to watch for are the torsion rods that act as springs to hold the trunk lid up. they're in the way of my box, but I'm working on using some other type of springs so the rear deck will be open (wait for pics of the next install to see why.
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Originally posted by Ojmac92SE
He said his system was stock bose. Therefore the rear speakers are 6x9s. I was mistaken when I spoke about non-bose stock systems.
MB Quarts are one of the best "for your money" brands out there. If you want to spend 6k on custom pods housing BA components, more power to you. Personally neither I nor the person I am doing the install for can afford to do that heh.
EDIT: Obviously you didn't read the whole thread Matt. I'll email you in a few days about that headlight
He said his system was stock bose. Therefore the rear speakers are 6x9s. I was mistaken when I spoke about non-bose stock systems.
MB Quarts are one of the best "for your money" brands out there. If you want to spend 6k on custom pods housing BA components, more power to you. Personally neither I nor the person I am doing the install for can afford to do that heh.
EDIT: Obviously you didn't read the whole thread Matt. I'll email you in a few days about that headlight
I agree, the Quart speakers are good for the money, but when you're on a budget it's 25% speaker, 50% install, and 25% knowing how to talk to the sound quality judge. (i.e. the cold beer sitting in the cupholder doesn't hurt when it's 110deg in the judging lanes!) BTW.. I've gone against guys with $2500 3-way Quart front stages and KILLED them in qound quality with my $450 2-way Focals. Proof? Check out the 2000 IASCA Finals Novice 301-600 scores... oh wait... the guys running Quart aren't even listed cause none of them were in the top 10! DOH! )
My whole point was to just let you know it's not a good idea to walk in the door and crown yourself THE expert when it's not fully due. you may be AN expert, but you're not THE expert. I'm not trying to claim that crown either, but it's definitely not right to walk in the door and assume you're the one.
Let that be proven in the judging lanes. See you at IASCA Finals next year when my new system is done.
matt -
wasnt talking about porting the sub-enclosure.... i was talking about porting the rear deck... you know, behind the back-seats, the deck w/ the 2 grilles on it for your back speakers... anyways... yea, my box was too big for my trunk so the installers cut some nice little slits in the box, so when the trunk closes, they slide right through.
wasnt talking about porting the sub-enclosure.... i was talking about porting the rear deck... you know, behind the back-seats, the deck w/ the 2 grilles on it for your back speakers... anyways... yea, my box was too big for my trunk so the installers cut some nice little slits in the box, so when the trunk closes, they slide right through.
in that case, yeah I did that too.. I cut about a 5 x 10" hole in the middle, just in front of the brake light, so when I ported the box, I'd have some place for the ports to stick up through the deck.
the only problem with this is that you've got to watch what you're cutting. there's lots of wires on the rear deck, and it's also a large part of the car's structural stiffness. you cut too much of it away and your car will twist and lean like a minivan in corners!.
What I'd recommend doing is cutting it out, then welding /bolting some steel or aluminum braces in it's place. you'll open up the airflow a lot, but still have the stiffness.
the only problem with this is that you've got to watch what you're cutting. there's lots of wires on the rear deck, and it's also a large part of the car's structural stiffness. you cut too much of it away and your car will twist and lean like a minivan in corners!.
What I'd recommend doing is cutting it out, then welding /bolting some steel or aluminum braces in it's place. you'll open up the airflow a lot, but still have the stiffness.
Originally posted by Matt93SE
in that case, yeah I did that too.. I cut about a 5 x 10" hole in the middle, just in front of the brake light, so when I ported the box, I'd have some place for the ports to stick up through the deck.
the only problem with this is that you've got to watch what you're cutting. there's lots of wires on the rear deck, and it's also a large part of the car's structural stiffness. you cut too much of it away and your car will twist and lean like a minivan in corners!.
What I'd recommend doing is cutting it out, then welding /bolting some steel or aluminum braces in it's place. you'll open up the airflow a lot, but still have the stiffness.
in that case, yeah I did that too.. I cut about a 5 x 10" hole in the middle, just in front of the brake light, so when I ported the box, I'd have some place for the ports to stick up through the deck.
the only problem with this is that you've got to watch what you're cutting. there's lots of wires on the rear deck, and it's also a large part of the car's structural stiffness. you cut too much of it away and your car will twist and lean like a minivan in corners!.
What I'd recommend doing is cutting it out, then welding /bolting some steel or aluminum braces in it's place. you'll open up the airflow a lot, but still have the stiffness.
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