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Old 10-01-2007, 02:27 PM
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[holy] sliding control arms [batman]

I posted recently about some strange front suspension noise during braking and acceleration:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=403983

Then I posted about a damaged stabilizer bar bushing:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=405573

Last week I noticed the left stabilizer bushing has gotten bad as well, also I saw that the right control arm is receded further back then the left one. My opinion now is that they are both sliding fore and aft, causing the noise, and concurrently destroying these bushings.

I just came to this conclusion yesterday, so I havent gotten under the car to fiddle with anything, or to confirm it, but it makes sense. Should the fix be as simple as tightening the big nut on the control arms until they dont have any room to slide? Anyone ever have this issue?
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lol I'm gonna suggest you do what I suggested on the first link you posted 2nd post
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Bah, thats the last course of action.
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should be the first
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:19 PM
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ummm, if your control arms are moving fore/aft, then you need to fix it ASAP.
As in don't drive the car. tow it to a shop if you can't do it yourself.


..... And the only mechanics I'd recommend are in Florida right now with the National Z Convention (where I am too.. )
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
ummm, if your control arms are moving fore/aft, then you need to fix it ASAP.
As in don't drive the car. tow it to a shop if you can't do it yourself.


..... And the only mechanics I'd recommend are in Florida right now with the National Z Convention (where I am too.. )
I still have to confirm the hunch, but if it so then I just wonder how in the world they could've gotten that way from regular driving. I dont drive the car during the week, so it will have to wait until I have time on Saturday.

I look forward to many photos from the National Z Convention!
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Passenger (aka oil leak) side:


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I was able to move the lower control arms forward with a vice grip, but then they slowly receded on their own.
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Hmm, looks like some fluid is eating away the bushing...
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mikekantor:

You have either a power steering fluid leak or a front crankshaft main seal leak going on the passenger side. You need to fix the leak before you replace the control arm bushings/sway bar link bushings,otherwise the fluids will eat up new stock rubber bushings in no time at all

Another option would be replacing all front suspension bushings with energy suspension polyurethane bushings.
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Its a front main seal, engine is getting pulled this weekend to repair that and other issues.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:49 AM
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sweet, take some pictures cuz I think the gfs max has same prob..
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Originally Posted by BlooToof
sweet, take some pictures cuz I think the gfs max has same prob..

Pictures won't do you any good,he has a VE= take off crank pulley/pull out old seal/put in new seal.

The vg has a timing belt sprocket that has to come off in order to replace the front main seal,not mention all the other crap that has to come off in order to reach the seal..
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
Pictures won't do you any good,he has a VE= take off crank pulley/pull out old seal/put in new seal.

The vg has a timing belt sprocket that has to come off in order to replace the front main seal,not mention all the other crap that has to come off in order to reach the seal..
took us about 3 hours or so when we did mine. all belts come off, then pulley, then tbelt cover, then tbelt, then sprocket, then oil seal. have fun. My uncle sure did.
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the front main seal is VERY hard to remove. I tried using heat, then a puller...eventually I just decided to leave it because it wasn't leaking in the first place. I just wanted to do it while I was redoing the oil pan seal and putting in the VE trans. The rear main is much easier. I would reccomend buying a special puller just for this job, because trying to use other things probably won't work. That sucker is on there good.
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Originally Posted by traxtar944
the front main seal is VERY hard to remove. I tried using heat, then a puller...eventually I just decided to leave it because it wasn't leaking in the first place. I just wanted to do it while I was redoing the oil pan seal and putting in the VE trans. The rear main is much easier. I would reccomend buying a special puller just for this job, because trying to use other things probably won't work. That sucker is on there good.
Thanks for the heads up. A puller has been on my shopping list anyway because I have to get both main seals out, as well as the axle seals. It think thats the last tool remaining... just bought a load leveler for the hoist, and an assortment of large 1/2" sockets over the weekend.
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
Thanks for the heads up. A puller has been on my shopping list anyway because I have to get both main seals out, as well as the axle seals. It think thats the last tool remaining... just bought a load leveler for the hoist, and an assortment of large 1/2" sockets over the weekend.
He was referring to the vg front main seal,the ve seal is easy as pie.
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Originally Posted by MyGreenMax94
He was referring to the vg front main seal,the ve seal is easy as pie.
mmm warm. apple. pie.


If my engine is still running by the time I do my next timing belt, I will pull the engine and do both front and rear main seals.

BTW how often should the Tbelt be changed, 60-80k? I've got 41k miles since I replaced it. I wanna start buying parts little by little so by the time I reach the deadline I've got all the cam/crank seals and EVERYTHING I'll need.
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