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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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A few years back, I've thought about getting me an HID kit to put into stock headlights. But I also did some research and found out that 3rd gen headlight shape makes HID conversion problematic by scattering the light and blinding the oncoming traffic, so I didn't get them, and did the 9007 conversion instead. I've noticed that nobody here seems to have HID in their stock headlights. Is that for the reason described above? Or is there any other reason, besides the E36 option?
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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for that reason above. the glare will be pretty bad in the stock housing. many on here have retrofitted with projectors to better focus the light.
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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i want to the e36 conversion with projectors. but no one seems to post a close up of the conversion and what the gaps look like. and i dunno where to find the wade covers and if i should get them for a max or bmw or how much they cost etc
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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for that reason above. the glare will be pretty bad in the stock housing. many on here have retrofitted with projectors to better focus the light.
I didn't even think you can put projectors on stock headlights. I'll bet projectors will look pretty sweet with clear euro lenses.

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i want to the e36 conversion with projectors. but no one seems to post a close up of the conversion and what the gaps look like. and i dunno where to find the wade covers and if i should get them for a max or bmw or how much they cost etc
Same here. First, I wanna find out what and how much to dremel off my frame, so I dont f*ck it up while trying to figure it out myself. What are wade covers? Are those the clear corners I've seen some 3rd gens with?
Old Oct 22, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Believe it or not, my friend with a 91 LS400 got HID off ebay and his headlamps have the similar style patterns on em and the light doesnt seem to scatter as described. Its not razor sharp like on a projector but its pretty aligned just like it is with normal 9004s except more intense. Anyone would like to explain why?
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Believe it or not, my friend with a 91 LS400 got HID off ebay and his headlamps have the similar style patterns on em and the light doesnt seem to scatter as described. Its not razor sharp like on a projector but its pretty aligned just like it is with normal 9004s except more intense. Anyone would like to explain why?
Probably because his headlighs have different shape of reflectors than a 3rd gen.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:32 AM
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Im currently in the process of retrofitting infiniti fx35 bi-xenon projectors with HID into a pair of stock headlights. I bought the euro clears as well and will be using the clear glass on the housing. I will post pictures when im done.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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from what i have seen, the e36 will have gaps. i saw some pics and it looked like after the conversion, the headlights sit a little farther back making the hood hang over the headlights. apparently taking the glass housing off and replacing it with a wade one will help with fitment issues. but like i said b4, i dunno if u get wade covers for a max or bmw, how much they add to the cost, and what it looks like b4 and after putting the covers on.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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Well, if you get Wade covers it would be for the Max. The purpose being to follow the lines of the body/hood. If you get Wade covers for the Bimmer lights they would just follow the same flat lines of the existing E36 lights and maintain the gap/poor fitment. Another solution besides Wade covers, which are plastic, is to get the glass Euro headlights for the Max and use that lense over the E36 lights, or keep the stock looking light that comes with them. Then your projector/HID retrofit will look stock. As far as where to get the Wade covers, I don't know. I got my Euro clear Max headlights off eBay.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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pictures speak a thousand words

99 maxima with 4300 HID in stock housings:


94 maxima with 4300 hid in TSX projectors in the E36 depos






and keep in mind, he lost his high beams too.


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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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infiniti j30 Dual projectors. Modified low beams with 2k3 hid d2r to d2s ballast and ignitors. Also used fx-35 reflector bowl to convert it to xenons. Only thing i have left to do is to take my euro lense off thats been sitting in my garage and put them on my retro fit case solved.




Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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here is the back of them. I never took any pics of it until i installed them but when i put the euro's lens on i will take a better shot

This is the beam shot with the stock fluttery lense not Bad though thats why i did'nt install the euros yet.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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you should just buy some cefiro headlights and use them for the HID conversion.....since they're projectors

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It's not like you can Bolt those on......
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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and cefiro projectors are not made for HID, there is a difference.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
and cefiro projectors are not made for HID, there is a difference.

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:stfu: what are you an expert? Most things can be modified, you have never even done work with a cefiro projector to know.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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on projector retros yes lol, i have done over 20 now and true hid conversions, and would consider myself of knowing a lot about of headlight, ty hid planet.com, anyways...

cefiro projectors use halogen bulbs. true HID projectors are ONLY use d2s d1s d1c bulbs( i think 1-2 more cant think of them), d2r bulbs are for reflector housings. no company uses any type of re-based bulb or h3 h7 bulbs for hid. also halogen projectors create hot spots, since they aren't as bright as HID they cant spread the light as evenly without losing intensity. so bulb holders are different. and the reflector housings of the projectors are diff. also the materials used. you don't see any OEM hid projectors with cheap plastic holding them together, and none that i know of use 9006 h7 ect ect HID bulbs. good ill send you a link on what projectors are created spec for hid. and some pictures of how to either retro E55 or TSX projectors into the lights you have now, (remember i HAD the same ones at one point).

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(i was complimenting 2legal because he replaced his low beam bowl with a HID spec one, that is smart thinking)
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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so does anyone have pics of the e36 with and without the wades?
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
on projector retros yes lol, i have done over 20 now and true hid conversions, and would consider myself of knowing a lot about of headlight, ty hid planet.com, anyways...

cefiro projectors use halogen bulbs. true HID projectors are ONLY use d2s d1s d1c bulbs( i think 1-2 more cant think of them), d2r bulbs are for reflector housings. no company uses any type of re-based bulb or h3 h7 bulbs for hid. also halogen projectors create hot spots, since they aren't as bright as HID they cant spread the light as evenly without losing intensity. so bulb holders are different. and the reflector housings of the projectors are diff. also the materials used. you don't see any OEM hid projectors with cheap plastic holding them together, and none that i know of use 9006 h7 ect ect HID bulbs. good ill send you a link on what projectors are created spec for hid. and some pictures of how to either retro E55 or TSX projectors into the lights you have now, (remember i HAD the same ones at one point).

-B

(i was complimenting 2legal because he replaced his low beam bowl with a HID spec one, that is smart thinking)

Hey if you need pics of hids let me know. I have talked to you on hidplanet as well but here ya are.




Thats what real hids look like fyi.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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so does anyone have pics of the e36 with and without the wades?
No Wades, but a good install:



Wades:



Pics from TripleGmax
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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that does lookk like a good install. how did you get it to look that good? you can pm if you want so we don't hijack anymore than we have.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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that does lookk like a good install. how did you get it to look that good? you can pm if you want so we don't hijack anymore than we have.
No, wait. I wanna know too. It's what this thread is for.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by heresmymind
pictures speak a thousand words

99 maxima with 4300 HID in stock housings:


94 maxima with 4300 hid in TSX projectors in the E36 depos






and keep in mind, he lost his high beams too.


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do you by any chance have any pics of how you sealed your E36 lights after you did the TSX retrofit?
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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do you by any chance have any pics of how you sealed your E36 lights after you did the TSX retrofit?
he's not using the us spec e36's. he's got the depo p36's. you just unclip it and the front glass comes off.
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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oh wait the second pic is with the wades. sorry i was reading too fast trying to make sure my manager doesn't sneak up behind me. So my shopping list for flea bay is going to be:

1 set of e36 (preferably w/ projectors
1 set of clear euros (preferably glass)
1 set of 8000K HID KIT

And the euro clears sit and seal on the e36's no prob?
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Originally Posted by gapboi210
oh wait the second pic is with the wades. sorry i was reading too fast trying to make sure my manager doesn't sneak up behind me. So my shopping list for flea bay is going to be:

1 set of e36 (preferably w/ projectors
1 set of clear euros (preferably glass)
1 set of 8000K HID KIT

And the euro clears sit and seal on the e36's no prob?
gapboi210 is now riceboi210 8000k are just gonna fatigue those lil eyes of yours in those backroads you so much use.

Oh God, I cant wait to see what B- (heresmymind) is gonna say to you for wanting 8000k
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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gapboi210 is now riceboi210 8000k are just gonna fatigue those lil eyes of yours in those backroads you so much use.

Oh God, I cant wait to see what B- (heresmymind) is gonna say to you for wanting 8000k
i honestly don't get why they make annything above 6000K..... above that it's painful, and just plain retarded. That and people who use pure yellow lights too. I flashed some idiot running pure yellow headlights. And I don't flash people...
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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i thought 8000k was pure white white a very little tint of blue?
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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4300k is white with a slight hint of yellow. 6000k is pure white. 8000k k is gay and blueish 10000 and 12000k for what. After 6000k you lumens drop so bad you may as weel just get painted halogens. If you are going to do a retro go with the 4300k. If you just must have more white 6000k. dont do anything above that or you will hate yourself when you see worse than when you started.
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i honestly don't get why they make annything above 6000K..... above that it's painful, and just plain retarded. That and people who use pure yellow lights too. I flashed some idiot running pure yellow headlights. And I don't flash people...
because they want to get tickets for having an improperly equipped vehicle.
it's coming, they made the decision a few months back about it.
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hey!!!! i use pure yellow HID's but the cause less glare than the 4300ks... also they are in OEM hid projectors (tsx). around here I am running into more morons with kits in their halogen reflector housings. cops are more worried about other stuff in the city where hid kits are common. i see 3-4 a night on back roads. 6000-10000k and 1 30000k kit. hella pink

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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id rather have 6000k then
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
4300k is white with a slight hint of yellow. 6000k is pure white. 8000k k is gay and blueish 10000 and 12000k for what. After 6000k you lumens drop so bad you may as weel just get painted halogens. If you are going to do a retro go with the 4300k. If you just must have more white 6000k. dont do anything above that or you will hate yourself when you see worse than when you started.

I think you have it all wrong. 4300k is WHITE with a hint of blue not yellow. 6000k-8000k is pretty much blue, 10000k -12000k is all pretty much puple

someone correct me if I'm wrong

4300k is oem HID
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I think you have it all wrong. 4300k is WHITE with a hint of blue not yellow. 6000k-8000k is pretty much blue, 10000k -12000k is all pretty much puple

someone correct me if I'm wrong

4300k is oem HID
4300k is in deed oem and it is yellowish not yellow. you wont get into blue till 6000k or so.
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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4300 is slightly yellow, phillips makes 5000k ultritrons that are crystal white, the phillips 85122+ bulbs say they are 4900k but are more yellow than the 4300k. osram are 4300k but color shift to abotu 4750 along with phillips 85122 and 85126 d2rs.
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somehow this seems to be completely unrelated to the 3rd generation maxima....... i haven't heard a word about the 3rd gen maxima in quite some time in this thread...


maybe it's time to move the thread (greenie), or just stop arguing the points and go to www.xenonpros.com for your color descriptions....not saying its the best site, but i mean, it's easy.

just get out of here with your "let's blind oncoming drivers with our STUPID FAWKING BRIGHT LIGHTS" talk. its silly. you are not in >hell<, or canada, where the air is thick with an evil black mist that you would need HID's to see through.....
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Originally Posted by ustfdes
somehow this seems to be completely unrelated to the 3rd generation maxima....... i haven't heard a word about the 3rd gen maxima in quite some time in this thread...


maybe it's time to move the thread (greenie), or just stop arguing the points and go to www.xenonpros.com for your color descriptions....not saying its the best site, but i mean, it's easy.

just get out of here with your "let's blind oncoming drivers with our STUPID FAWKING BRIGHT LIGHTS" talk. its silly. you are not in >hell<, or canada, where the air is thick with an evil black mist that you would need HID's to see through.....
A good retro wont blind anyone thats what we are trying to get at.
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you are not in >hell<, or canada, where the air is thick with an evil black mist that you would need HID's to see through.....
Actually its like that in Chicago too not just Canaduh, we're got incredibly evil looking mist that kills you on contact
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Originally Posted by BlooToof
Actually its like that in Chicago too not just Canaduh, we're got incredibly evil looking mist that kills you on contact
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