is there anyway it would fit on to the sohc motor?? thanks

 

They are the same on both models,so yes it will fit.

 

I've heard in the past that the SE steering rack (from both VG's and VE's) has a slightly quicker ratio. Any 3rd gen rack should work in all 3rd Gens, tho...

 

isn't the VE SE rack stiffer than the VG rack?

 

They have the same part # folks

 

they are 100% identical, inside and out.
there are however differences in the pump which can also alter the way the steering feels.

 

The racks may be the same, but I can tell ya that the hoses are different. LOL

 

My GXE steering felt smoother then the SE

 

My gxe's steering is also much smoother/easier to steer vs. my se's steering,I believe the gxe steering pump has more "push" so to speak then the se's pump,from a performance standpoint,you want to "feel" the road more,in which a lower volume steering pump will help in this case.

 

Thats why the steering feel on sports cars is pretty heavy.

 

The part numbers ARE different. Two different ones listed for the GXEs, and one for all SEs. Different part numbers for pumps too, but says based on engine, not model- can't figure the difference by looking at the listing.

The GXE is a lot easier to "one-hand", but I miss the road feel of the SE.

 

I am not referring to dealership part #'s(yes,dealer lists them as different),I am referring to all aftermarket part #'s.

 

it's like struts the dealer lists multiple #s but in the end they are all the same.

 

Is it that they really are the same, or that parts stores/suppliers/remanufacturers only want to stock (or rebuild) one part to keep it simple for them. It wouldn't be the first time that people could only buy what was being sold, and that their cars never were "quite the same" after the part was replaced with a "one part fits all". Often the answer is "close enough" for them.

 

yes it is the same.
the ratios are identical.

 

Guess it's really the pump that makes the difference, then?

 

correct, the pumps do vary and that is where the feel typically comes from on most cars.

 

but an SE Power Steering pump cannot fit on a GXE, can it? Or should I say, a VE on a VG?? I've always wanted to tighten up the steering on the GXE, and eliminate the play in the wheel...so this thread is interesting to me.

So far, the only thing I did was get a smaller diameter steering wheel to change the ratios. It helped immensly, but hasn't eliminated the play. If someone could source a smaller volume steering pump that would work on the VG to give a tighter feel, it would be great. What about using a 300zx pump and swap out the pulley? Would that work? Is it even an improvement?

 

a VG SE pump will fit any VG, but expect to replace the accompanying hoses at the same time.

 

ALL VE PUMPS FIT VG'S!
ALL VG PUMPS VE'S!
And you don't need to change the lines, unless you are trying to get ppl to buy your parts.

 

interesting...

 

Do you have a link to this info?

Have you installed a vg pump on a ve engine?or vise versa?

Just wondering...

 

I've got some research to do tomorrow at work

 

I've had a gxe reman pump on my 90se, I currently have a 93se pump on it. The lines all match up, and the pump are identical.

 

Thanks tim,thats good to know,now i don't have to be VE specific at teh junkyard..

 

While all hoses and pumps are interchangeable, the hoses are routed differently from a VG to a VE. It will work, but as I just completed this swap, the VE hoses are tucked in tighter and give a bit more room than if you try to use the VG hoses on a VE engine. But goon9 is correct, the pumps are identical as far as mounting goes. Not sure about the pressure though. My swap was SE to SE, so........IDK.

 

so putting a VE pump on my VG wouldn't give me a tighter steering response, since the pumps are identical.

 

They are not "identical" so to speak..but each will mount up and work according to goons info.

It has only been speculated in this thread about the flow differences,maybe good can chime in as to the difference in feel from one to the other?

 

I'd like to renew some interest in the subject of GXE steering feel vs. SE steering feel. I have always thought my GXE could use less power assist. Apparently there are no complaints about this from the SE crowd.

So it seems that the whole thing comes down to pump rates, yes?

 

Yeah, that would be my guess, the lines and all seem to be identical between the two systems, but the power assist ratio between the two cars are very different.

 

I wonder if it is the actual pump, or maybe the pulley diameter? It would be great if all it took was a pulley swap.

 

The pulley diameter looks identical between the two..

 

is the 'difference' in feel engine-specific (all VG vs all VE) or trim-level specific (VE & VG-SE both vs GXE)?

 

I can only account for the VE vs. gxe vg feel= night/day.

 

Hmm...Who has extra pumps and feels like tearing them down in the name of technical information?

 

aaron92se probably WOULD...... except whenever he starts selling his VE stuff after his VQ is running i already called dibs on his VE PS pump.... sawwy. i can do an external comparison of them tho when i switch them.. if that helps any.

i think i may have found the answer
rack = same
http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...1715_1721.html

pump is VE vs VG (within that, normal susp vs SONAR)
http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...1715_1721.html

 

That may be true, but how the line fits may be in question. I have an '89 GXE with the "boosted" PS pump. After it went bad due to a leaking rack I installed a different pump which did not have the electronic "booster" on it. I assume it was a pump from an SE (VG or VE, I don't know). Because of the location of the arm on the original pump which housed the "boost sensor" the high pressure hose was bent at a 90 degree angle at the pump, but the new SE pump required a straight line to the connection. My solution was to tweak the existing hose and install it backwards. It seems to work without any leaking or affect in performance, other than the stiffer turning feel you all speak of because of the lower steering boost pressure. Therefore, there is some difference in the shape and fitment of the different pumps. I will also change that HP Hose if its current routing ever becomes a problem. Otherwise, more feel -> more fun

I'll also try to post pics of the different pumps that I took when I was swapping them out.
Hope that helps.

-Mrkanda

P.S. My GXE does originally have the Sonar Suspension II setup.
Which leads me to another question- did the Sonar Susp include speed variable steering assist, thus the reason for the sensor?

 

yes. GXE w/sonar is the original pump you had. VE is another. everything-else is the third (VGSE and all no-sonar GXE)

 

Well, I think I must have a VESE pump considering how stiff it feels now. I think that is good for performance, but I did like how easy it was to turn at slow speeds with the original Sonar GXE pump. I may just buy a rebuild kit and fix the original one. That way I can turn the hose back around the right way and reconnect the sensor. Would it still give the lower sensitivity at higher speeds if it's speed variable, and if so is that what is good for performance driving? Thanks.

-Mrkanda

 

Stupid question but curious,

Is there alot of differece in a SE VQ rack or has anyone put a an SE power rack from a VQ into VG or VE car?