whats a brother to do?
10-29-2001, 06:17 PM
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whats a brother to do?
most people agree that y-pipes and cai are great first hp adding mods because they work together, and have the easist install, and are cheap enough. After those two, whats a brother to do to increase hp for not a lot of money, i know nos is cheap, but were talking bolt ons, bang for the buck improvements. thank you in advance and PEACE
10-29-2001, 06:32 PM
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Re: whats a brother to do?
Originally posted by nardo'89SE
but were talking bolt ons, bang for the buck improvements. thank you in advance and PEACE
but were talking bolt ons, bang for the buck improvements. thank you in advance and PEACE
10-29-2001, 06:50 PM
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Re: advanced timing
Originally posted by nardo'89SE
will 89 octane work with the 20 degree setup, or will i still get pinging,
will 89 octane work with the 20 degree setup, or will i still get pinging,
10-29-2001, 06:56 PM
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Re: Re: advanced timing
Originally posted by DA-MAX
I've heard a few people run 89 on adv timing before and have NO pinging, but most people suggest runnig 91 when you advance timing! but if you get mostly "good" gas like Exxon, Shell, 76 etc. I doubt their 89 would hurt with 20 degree timing!
I've heard a few people run 89 on adv timing before and have NO pinging, but most people suggest runnig 91 when you advance timing! but if you get mostly "good" gas like Exxon, Shell, 76 etc. I doubt their 89 would hurt with 20 degree timing!
you know if the VG will automaticly retard the timing or will it continue to knock until the engine falls off
10-29-2001, 06:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: advanced timing
Originally posted by nardo'89SE
you know if the VG will automaticly retard the timing or will it continue to knock until the engine falls off
you know if the VG will automaticly retard the timing or will it continue to knock until the engine falls off
10-29-2001, 07:07 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: advanced timing
Originally posted by DA-MAX
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it automatically retards it when set in the stock position, but I think after you manually set it to be at 20 degrees all the time, it might not automatically retard it anymore so it might be knocking and knock till the engine dies...but I'm not too sure!
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it automatically retards it when set in the stock position, but I think after you manually set it to be at 20 degrees all the time, it might not automatically retard it anymore so it might be knocking and knock till the engine dies...but I'm not too sure!
i have also heard that advanced timing doesn't add hp, whats the deal on the gains with a 20 degree advancement? by the way thank you for answering all my newbie questions
10-29-2001, 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by nardo'89SE
i have also heard that advanced timing doesn't add hp, whats the deal on the gains with a 20 degree advancement? by the way thank you for answering all my newbie questions
i have also heard that advanced timing doesn't add hp, whats the deal on the gains with a 20 degree advancement? by the way thank you for answering all my newbie questions
, but from what I've see it improves the VG's off the line starts VERY well...I think recently one of the DC guys ran a ~16.6-.5** in his VG auto with only intake and advanced timing so its gotta be worth something indeed!
10-29-2001, 08:39 PM
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Advancing the timing on the VG engine is a purely mechanical procedure. You loosen a bolt underneath the distributor and move the distributor to the right while the engine is running. I don't see how the engine could move the timing back, seeing as how it is a purely mechanical and not electronic procedure. Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
10-29-2001, 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Cincy94Max
Advancing the timing on the VG engine is a purely mechanical procedure. You loosen a bolt underneath the distributor and move the distributor to the right while the engine is running. I don't see how the engine could move the timing back, seeing as how it is a purely mechanical and not electronic procedure. Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
Advancing the timing on the VG engine is a purely mechanical procedure. You loosen a bolt underneath the distributor and move the distributor to the right while the engine is running. I don't see how the engine could move the timing back, seeing as how it is a purely mechanical and not electronic procedure. Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
10-29-2001, 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Cincy94Max
Advancing the timing on the VG engine is a purely mechanical procedure. You loosen a bolt underneath the distributor and move the distributor to the right while the engine is running. I don't see how the engine could move the timing back, seeing as how it is a purely mechanical and not electronic procedure. Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
Advancing the timing on the VG engine is a purely mechanical procedure. You loosen a bolt underneath the distributor and move the distributor to the right while the engine is running. I don't see how the engine could move the timing back, seeing as how it is a purely mechanical and not electronic procedure. Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
10-29-2001, 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Cincy94Max
Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
Advancing the timing doesn't really add HP. Rather it helps with throttle response. The gains of advancing the timing are similar to a short throw shifter; these mods don't add horsepower, but you will see faster track times and better acceleration.
I guarantee you that you would see at least 2-3 hp from advancing the timing alone if you were to use a dynometer. Nissan sets the base timing with consideration for heat, idle quality, gas quality, smoothness, emissions, etc. and with the base timing as it is there are many compromises for the forestated conditions. By advancing the timing, ignition occurs earlier in the combustion stroke, allowing the mixture to be more thoroughly burnt, thus producing more power. Take my example: I went from a stock 1/4 at 15.5 to 14.8 (7/10 sec.) with only 20 degrees timing and a cone filter. Those are results that you can quantify unlike an STS.
10-29-2001, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Czar
I disagree.
I guarantee you that you would see at least 2-3 hp from advancing the timing alone if you were to use a dynometer. Nissan sets the base timing with consideration for heat, idle quality, gas quality, smoothness, emissions, etc. and with the base timing as it is there are many compromises for the forestated conditions. By advancing the timing, ignition occurs earlier in the combustion stroke, allowing the mixture to be more thoroughly burnt, thus producing more power. Take my example: I went from a stock 1/4 at 15.5 to 14.8 (7/10 sec.) with only 20 degrees timing and a cone filter. Those are results that you can quantify unlike an STS.
I disagree.
I guarantee you that you would see at least 2-3 hp from advancing the timing alone if you were to use a dynometer. Nissan sets the base timing with consideration for heat, idle quality, gas quality, smoothness, emissions, etc. and with the base timing as it is there are many compromises for the forestated conditions. By advancing the timing, ignition occurs earlier in the combustion stroke, allowing the mixture to be more thoroughly burnt, thus producing more power. Take my example: I went from a stock 1/4 at 15.5 to 14.8 (7/10 sec.) with only 20 degrees timing and a cone filter. Those are results that you can quantify unlike an STS.
10-29-2001, 11:23 PM
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Re: whats a brother to do?
Originally posted by nardo'89SE
most people agree that y-pipes and cai are great first hp adding mods because they work together, and have the easist install, and are cheap enough. After those two, whats a brother to do to increase hp for not a lot of money, i know nos is cheap, but were talking bolt ons, bang for the buck improvements. thank you in advance and PEACE
most people agree that y-pipes and cai are great first hp adding mods because they work together, and have the easist install, and are cheap enough. After those two, whats a brother to do to increase hp for not a lot of money, i know nos is cheap, but were talking bolt ons, bang for the buck improvements. thank you in advance and PEACE
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