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Old May 10, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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160 or 190 Hp

I know this is sad.. but i need to know if my car has the 160 hp engine or the 190hp. i have a 94 maxima brougham edition. Can i check somewhere under the hood? or on the engine? is there something that makes it obvious. the car seems really fast. thanks
Old May 10, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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lol brougham? i didnt know cadillac made the maxima.
Old May 10, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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lol brougham? i didnt know cadillac made the maxima.
...the hell did you come out of?
Old May 10, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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there is a 1994 nissan maxima brougham.. its the Canadian top of the line ..aka as the VE in the states............ is it 160 or 190 HP?
Old May 10, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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160. The 190s didn't come in until 95.
Old May 10, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ98MAXSE
160. The 190s didn't come in until 95.
Wrong. 92-94 SE uses the VE30DE engine, which peaks at 190hp. All other 3rd gens use the VG30E, which peaks at 160hp.

Every engine pictured in this thread is the VE: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=553054, if yours looks different then its the VG... or else someone got real creative with your car
Old May 10, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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160. The 190s didn't come in until 95.
um try again. 92-94SE VE30DE is 190HP 10:1 CR 24v DOHC

but just because it's a 94 doesn't mean much. the 92-94 GXEs had VGs just like all 89-91s did regardless of trim.

I don't know much about the broughams since they were not USDM, but if your engine bay's ID plate says VE30DE then it's 190hp/190tq, if it says VG30E then it's 160hp/182tq

edit: mr kantor beat me to it
Old May 11, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
...but just because it's a 94 doesn't mean much. ...
The bigg dffrence: bunch of blk spaghetti soot hoses -or- baked coilpack$. Here's The std Nissan Gutted Spaghetti:




... the ECCSpaghetti-server that makes it REAL VG30E (I hear some say eh 160hp?):




The blk hole above is also so called "original Nissan spark wire". Also the VGE hp is all wrong - after some minor adjustments. If you have that ECCS plastic cap on cap, then its VG30E, then this should be of interest: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/748507/12

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Old May 11, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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160 hp VG



190 hp VE


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Old May 11, 2008 | 01:53 AM
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160 hp VG



...
Haven't seen such a beauty. Is it used?
Old May 11, 2008 | 02:08 AM
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Haven't seen such a beauty. Is it used?
The (ex) wifes vg when we first brought it home@ 104k...
Old May 11, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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The Brougham edition maxima's were only available in Canada, usually with maroon interiors, digital dash, digital a/c, sometimes a heads up display, sonar suspension, etc. They were high end GXE's and only came with the 160hp VG30E.

The VE was never produced as any other model other than the 92-94 SE.
Old May 11, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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and don't feel bad both engines are pretty powerful imo and reliable....
Old May 11, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
...the hell did you come out of?
ive been lurking. got myself a 3rd gen daily, been tinkering with it a bit.
Old May 11, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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VE > VQ for real






"THEMS FIGHTIN WURDS"
Old May 12, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ98MAXSE
160. The 190s didn't come in until 95.
Sorry buddy, VG30 sohc was rated @ 160 hp while the VE30 was rated @ 190 hp and was available since 92!
I'd never forget that! The 3rd Gen Maxima is when I fell in love with Maxima's. Car and Driver had an article featuring the Nissan Maxima SE vs Ford Taurus SHO... 190 hp vs 220 hp... 5 spd vs 5 spd...Guess who won?

sorry didn't know they correct him!

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Old May 16, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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man i remember reading that article might have to google that one jeesh im gettin old
Old May 16, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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my friend had one and it has the 160 hp vg
Old May 16, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Having owned both the VG and VE, and being in Canada, the 'Brougham' is just a term used for car models that are 'fully loaded'. It's not Maxima specific. Many cars, including the Maxima were actually badged 'brougham' in chrome lettering on the trunk lid.

I've never seen a brougham VE here sams. It is likely a VG, but you've got pictures of engine examples above to determine that for sure.
Old May 17, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sams
I know this is sad.. but i need to know if my car has the 160 hp engine or the 190hp. i have a 94 maxima brougham edition. Can i check somewhere under the hood? or on the engine? is there something that makes it obvious. the car seems really fast. thanks
DON"T CUT....

Oh crap...

He already did....
Old May 18, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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the 160 is a SOHC and the 190 is a DOHC. The 190 is alot nicer
Old May 18, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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imo since i've owned both...i think both of em are nice.

both are reliable too!
so either way momey your not losing out on either one
Old May 18, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992maximase30
imo since i've owned both...i think both of em are nice.

both are reliable too!
so either way momey your not losing out on either one
mainly it just depends on your driving style as to which engine suits you best. the VG suits my driving style far better than a VE would, because i am almost always below 3500rpm, so if I were to have a VE i probably wouldn't like it. my friend, by contrast, would much rather have a VE than a VG because he likes to let the tach run a little higher, which is where the VE runs circles around the VG.
Old May 19, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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i love my rev's high too. but i'm all over the place though, lol
but the vg still meets my needs to that.
i think beucase of the "catbac" thats why.

my friend has a vg and when he drove mine he thought something was wrong with his.

but it's not.
i told him it may be because my engine was replaced (has less miles than his) and the exhaust upgrade.
Old May 20, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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For those too young to remember that 190 hp Maxima whipped that 220 hp SHO Taurus like a step child in pretty much every category!
Old May 21, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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yes!! i remember that!
and to think i was gonna get a sho...
Old May 22, 2008 | 02:32 AM
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i've had better luck with my VG's. the VE is fast but you don't want to buy parts for it.
Old May 22, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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i've had better luck with my VG's. the VE is fast but you don't want to buy parts for it.
dunno, I liked needing fewer parts on a routine basis.
Old May 22, 2008 | 06:31 AM
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dunno, I liked needing fewer parts on a routine basis.
that's because you only keep cars for 6 months...
Old May 22, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
that's because you only keep cars for 6 months...
Hmmmmm.... I've had my VE since early 2001 and I've put nearly 40K miles on it (has 161K on it now). Other then aftermarket parts I really haven't replaced many "parts". Consumables, lots! Tires, several sets. Otherwise, for the most part the SE has been pretty bulletproof.

Oh wait, I forgot the crappy manifold studs I had to replace, but that was like, what, $15-25 to repair, a weekend on my back, a case of beer and lots of F--- Bombs for my neighbors to hear?

Other OEM stuff that need replacing..... Wiper linkage, all 4 window regulators and the entire Bose system. But all this stuff is the same as the VG.

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Old May 22, 2008 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
that's because you only keep cars for 6 months...
I had my first VE for 2 years (almost exactly) before it got booted and taken.
I'd probably have it still if it wasn't booted and towed.
I do regret selling VE4 though. but if I do an EJ25 swap I'll be past the VG in power with lower weight , AWD, split folding rear seats, auto up and down drivers window, and headlights that turn off with the car . Yes I like my 94 alot.
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