the motor is fun to spin.
I've got the VQ in the 96 max, which has plenty down low, but doesn't like to rev much.
Today I've spent a day so far driving a new G35x. This car loves to spin the tach just like the VE with a UDP did. of course the affect of it on MPG is evident too

 

g35x's arent exactly ve powered... but does that mean you are coming back to the 3rd gen side, again, soon?
get rid of the 96, search a little farthrer away from home, and just get one already!
lol

 

ve power FTW dudes in my area sell ves for about the same as vgs they don't know what the have. Then you see em rollin around ina vq like they did something. LOL I just laff and hit the gas. My **** growls like a mother.

 

I love having high end too, I miss having low end sometimes... then I drive my old VG and realize the power cuts off at 4000rpms.

Coming up - VE-5 IM Bored and Honed, Phenolic Intake Spacers, New Valve Cover Gaskets, + Knock sensor.

High end should be even more fun

 

Last I checked VGs have power till redline....least it feels that way.

 

so where is the best place to get the Phenolic Intake Spacers for the VE.

 

last I checked NWP engineering was the only place to get Maxima Phenolic Intake Spacers.

 

Yeah, they peak at 5200rpms . It just feels like it completely drops off after 4 when you're used to driving a VE where you get most between 4-6.5k.

For NWP spacers:

http://forums.maxima.org/group-deals...se-ve30de.html

edit: Get those other two guys in the thread to send money and you'll have them in no time.

 

Okay that I can surely agree with you, I've never felt a VE but I've seen dyno charts.

High end was definitely better than that Celica next to me on the way home from the beach once. We came off a stoplight he was running slow and I think I let the car shift to 2nd at like 3000rpm and so he gets mad and makes a race out of him, I can tell by the sound that he's using the four banger for all it's worth at this point and so I step on it, let it downshift and then just as he was passing me I tore him up.

 

Nice, I don't really race very often at all... but I did race my cousin (who has my 94 VG GXE) to see how my car stood up against his. We went from a 25 roll to about 85 (I was at 85, I don't know what he was at) I had at LEAST 4 cars on him, but I think if we went from a stop he would have a bigger advantage since 25mph in my first gear (auto) is right at the beginning of the strongest part of my powerband.

Here is a vid going 55-85 up a bridge, I was trying to hold the camera by the window so you could hear the intake; it sounds cool in real life reverberating against the bridge wall. Which was what the video was for (to show someone intake sound)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l-zAriwg1xc

 

I don't really race period. The guy was just next to me at a stop light and I was minding my own business and he got all insecure because some Maxima beat him off the line and quit pushing the pedal when he hit the speed limit at like half throttle. I hate teenage ****** with a passion. If some guy passes me at a stoplight I don't floor it for revenge. If I just happen to floor it because I like to and someone in his 20s-30s passes me in a Cobra I don't get pissy. I just think, damn...nice car. When someone lets off the pedal though there is really no ***** to flooring it and trying to pass him.

 

Sure it's fun to redline the VE. Only problem is, you feel the need to do it through every gear. The VG is satisfying to drive normally. VE begs you to step on the gas which isn't very economical and can get you in trouble. VE is lame under 3k, VG is fun under 3k. VG = practical, reliable and takes regular. It's why i've kept mine and sold all the VEs i've had.

 

Interesting take on things, I gotta agree with you though I still want to floor a VG.

 

we tried to get my car to go fast the other day, and were redlining it. son of a ***** would NOT hit 5000 in 4th. (about 100ish maybe?)
slowed down
put it in 5th
tried it again
sucker climbed smoothly to 120.
at which point i promptly said "um. wtf?" we were basically shifting it at 4300 and that's where it had best speed. methinks something weird was with my highend. i put on a new air filter since, but have not tried the 4th gear pull again since.

 

thats what i had missed bout my ve too...at first.
when i floored the vg you can feel the power drop right off.
but after a tune-up, new air filter her power band goes all the way to the red line.
and don't get me wrong but my vg begs to be floored every once and awhile too.

 

None to be found. I don't want a VE5.
we'll see what comes my way next.
I don't have the VQ running right quite yet, though that will come soon enough.

 

Well, since the VE is not as gutsy down low and a VG is not as strong a puller up high, what would be a solution to both situations? Would a properly sized, and tuned turbo make up for the inherent weakness for either engine? Just wondering if there is a way to get the best of both worlds

 

I dont know Brian, so far I'm loving my VQ-5... I think you'll like yours once you get it running right

Now dont get me wrong I LOVE my VG and will probably never get rid of it, even with its "weaknesses" of not having high end.. oh boo hoo it doesnt pull at high end, its not really meant to like the VE but you know what, I know one day I'm also gonna end up with a VE5...that is when I find a properly running one with absolutely NO rust.

 

Best of both worlds would be a 300ZX TT or even a turbo 350Z/G35 if you wanted to go overboard. Get 400hp to the wheels and I'd think that you'd have little to complain about except maybe how your maxima has a flater torque curve or something of that nature. That or complaining that you spin tires in more gears than ever before. I can't wait till I finally get the machining job I want. After I make my Maxima the ultimate DD I'm going to get a 300ZX and see how much power I can comfortably get to the ground. My guess is 400, 1000+ is for dyno queens. Having a dyno queen seems about as cool to me as being a drag queen.

Now...to get 200-250hp to the wheels of my Maxima through babysitting, birthday money and christmas! Muwahaha

 

Look who it is!... Hah, How's it been? Buy Cliffs car. That's a damn near perfect VE in my eyes.

 

Not bad buddy, not bad. I like the color but it'll get me pulled over in no time...if the color doesnt do it then the driving will but sooner or later it'll get to me

Wonder what the price is now...hmm I'll shoot him a PM when its not bedtime

 

JOHN!

 

get that clutch yet? one thing i have wondered about VE5s is if they are a little tamer to drive in the city than a VG5... cuz with as much torque as the VG has down low you just barely touch the throttle and it'll engage pretty rough moving up through the gears... since the VE is weaker down low does it engage more smoothly? my throttle is REEEEALLY sensitive at 0-10% throttle. I kinda wish i had a progressively opening throttle actually.. like (shudder) the 1st gen Probes have.

 

Yeah, I noticed that when driving my GXE that taking off from a stop you really have to baby the throttle if you have a ****ty motor mount. I do have ****ty motor mounts (I think a rear one) on the VE, but it's always a smooth take off from lights and stuff. You also can get the VE to react like a VG in city traffic, you just have to run with the rpm's a little higher (around or a little below 4k) Then, if you blip the throttle while it's at peak torque (1st or 2nd gear) it's instantaneous acceleration.

 

i have more than one ****ty motor mount mang... it's retarded-like. especially when i'm in traffic and have to suddenly lift-and-pick-up in 2nd about 200rpm shy of where i was about to shift into 3rd.... whiplash much? ever heard of anyone doing a progressive throttle on the VG, where (given a constant rate of depression on the pedal) the butterfly opened slower up front, and then leveled off after about 25%? so that 25% pedal was about 15% throttle, and then finished off linearly from there? my passengers always get mad at me for my driving and i have to keep apologizing... i can drive my friend's probe perfectly. but even tho i drive my car like 50 miles a day i still can't reliably shift it smoothly.

 

My old VQ (I30) ran fine, but I kept the VE at that time.
these days, who knows.

 

what i don't understand is the ve is a 24valve, the vg is a 12 valve and it sounds so odd to say that too.
okay why does the vg have more ***** on low end than the ve.

i thought the vtc was supposed to solve this problem.

 

VG's produce all their torque at 2800rpms, where the VE has it at 4000+ rpms. The VTC's advance ignition timing between a certain rpm range (4k-redline about).

 

its like vtec yo but without the "e" and around 2000 rpms less

 

udp, light flywheel, slap a gt35r on a ve and hold on

 

Snap... I'm gonna have two of those. Does that quality for a "grab on?"

 

it's far more than that. different compression ratios, different ignition types, different valve timings, different number of valves, different intake designs, etc all factor in to why one has power in one place and the other somewhere else.

 

thats true.
even though the vg looks weak...it can take out some of new competition out there.

 

The VG looks weak? Most guys my age are proud of some engine half it's size with half the horsepower and a forth the torque!

 

your mom looks weak! dont talk about the vg like that lil lady

 

That's kind of right but not really.

The VE is a high strung motor that makes excellent power on the top end of its powerband. Nissan added the VTCs to the intake camshafts to increase low end torque. The VTCs are not engaged above 4600rpm. The VTCs do nothing to the ignition timing. They actually change the timing of the intake camshafts.

 

Yes, it's called a VE 5spd + Fidanza flywheel / Exedy clutch / UDP / intake of your choice / Warspeed Y- Pipe and a few other tweaks. My car will lock the seatbelts up if you punch it from a roll in 1st gear. I had a VG auto for 4 years and have had a VE 5spd for the past 3. Trust me, there is nothing the VG could do that my VE can't do better. Simple as that. It gets of the line faster, revs a LOT faster, and pulls harder. And has another ~30mph in top speed.

I remember when I got my VE. It was slightly scary I was used to my anemic VG auto. The VE was a monster. It kept trying to spin 1st and 2nd gear. 3rd gear on entrance ramps was just amazing. It just pulled and pulled all through way through 90 until I shifted to fourth. Once the Fidanza went on, holy hell.

disclaimer: It's not the VE is really that fast. It's probably a very low 15 second car / 7 something seconds to 60. But when your used to 17 second cars that take 9+ seconds to 60mph and do not pull very hard at all past ~75mph, it was a whole new world.

 

Get a VI on the VQ and get the redline extended and you will forget all about the VE.



:ducks:

 

Check the thread I linked below. Absolutely phenomenal. I remember when the 4thGens were thrilled to put down 250hp s/c and this guy is doing 270fwhp N/A. He's estimating 100hp / liter at the crank. It's just I can't wait to see what he will do with a 3.5

http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-discus...k-ruh-roh.html

 

as do yours princess.

and i'm proud of my vg.
the vg imo is a high strung motor itself too.

oh and for some odd reason when the ve decided to go into the redline it'll knock really bad.then go away after about 10-15minutes.

as i said before beside hp rating ONLY either engine isnt bad to me..