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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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i have a problem with driver side axel not going all the way in the transmission...i asked my teacher and he told me that that might be a wrong axel cuz its too long...but auto store have the same AXEL as i have already inside the car so it cant be wrong axel.....i have 1992 nissan maxima SE with ABS automatic....any solutions? and ya transmission oil leakes from there cuz its not going all the way inside.....but car is drivable and i put the axel bak whatever way it was and now driving the car....thanks in advance!!

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so i have to push hard and hammer it if i could? and ya is the traction control (vlsd) Axel is longer than normal one right? and SE's comes standard with VLSD or some isnt?
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you may need to rotate the axle a few times for it to get into its seat. some guys here have mentioned as many as 5 full rotations or something equally nuts.

and just because the auto parts store says the part is the right one, doesn't make it the right part.

edit:dont hammer!!!!
yes, longer, yes vlsd (assuming a ve such as yours.)
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Originally Posted by Pervis Anathema
The drivers side can be a PITA. I got mine back in by twisting and pushing. If you get right it, it should push in with little resistance.
this is what happened to me last time i took my driver side axle out

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...t/IMG_1625.jpg

but the passenger side axle has never taken me less than an hour to get out b/c the bracket always seizes, and i never remember to use antiseize on it!
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Alright i will rotate it tomorrow cuz i didnt do that i jus pushed in as far it could go.... and now i m driving the car around but wen i accelerate from 0 suddenly it makes a sound like "" TAK "".... can u drive the car while Axel is not fully in? mine running fine...but still if Axel is not all the way in it could be dangrous for transmission and specialy for ME :|
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
this is what happened to me last time i took my driver side axle out

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...t/IMG_1625.jpg

but the passenger side axle has never taken me less than an hour to get out b/c the bracket always seizes, and i never remember to use antiseize on it!
ouch...i have the same cut lil bit smaller but on my THUMB...i never knew Axles takes blood to come out....oh well i guess we have to be careful..i m gonna wear gloves up to my elbows next time i Take out AXLE...

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so i have to push hard and hammer it if i could? and ya is the traction control (vlsd) Axel is longer than normal one right? and SE's comes standard with VLSD or some isnt?
89-91SE was VG and had plain diff
92-94SE was VE and had VLSD

vlsd driver side axle has double splines on it


as for my cut... i caught my arm on the dust shield for the brake rotor. that little sharp edge toward the front where the caliper goes (but of course the calipers were off for this)
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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here is the picture of the AXLE i have and where i pointed with arrow...this is the point where it stops going in and ya i didnt rotate it yet....

http://uploader.ws/upload/200807/W01331611368EMP.jpg

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Originally Posted by burhangondal
here is the picture of the AXEL i have and where i pointed with arrow...this is the point where it stops going in and ya i didnt rotate it yet....

http://uploader.ws/upload/200807/W01331611368EMP.jpg
i guess just keep trying and rotating it then. have you tried just turning back and forth like a quarter turn while pushing it in?
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i didnt even rotate once...i was just pushing like a BULL..lol i was so mad that time i didnt even think of that ..i will do that tommorow and see wat happens...
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Make sure you haven't damaged the circlip! How far engaged (the splined shaft)is it in the transmission?
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Make sure you haven't damaged the circlip! How far engaged (the splined shaft)is it in the transmission?
http://uploader.ws/upload/200807/W01331611368EMP.jpg

right here i pointed in picture that how far it goes in and then it doesnt...it will maybe by rotating it?

IS THIS TRUE ---> Ltd slip used on "SE" models (SE model: Black chrome W/ spoiler) The drive axles of the Limited Slip Differential can be identified as having a double set of splines on the driver's side inboard joint stub shaft. w/ ABS & w/ Limited-Slip Differential
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Originally Posted by burhangondal
http://uploader.ws/upload/200807/W01331611368EMP.jpg

right here i pointed in picture that how far it goes in and then it doesnt...it will maybe by rotating it?

IS THIS TRUE ---> Ltd slip used on "SE" models (SE model: Black chrome W/ spoiler) The drive axles of the Limited Slip Differential can be identified as having a double set of splines on the driver's side inboard joint stub shaft. w/ ABS & w/ Limited-Slip Differential
yes it is correct. though just ID the axle, ignore the car. If it has 2 sets of splines where the axle enters the trans then it has VLSD if not then it's an open diff
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ya i looked inside, there is only single spline in trans where axle enters and i have two splines on axle? plus my car is 92 SE automatic with ABS and donoo if it has VLSD....? i thought 92 to 94 SE's all came with VLSD ?....and i bought the axle with ONLY ABS and it had only one spline and i was happy that its gonna fit but then on the other side which is wheel side...i didnt try it jus saying cuz mechnic said that its too small and abs sensor wont read it..and i measured it with caliper...it was half inch smaller than the axle with VLSD which i have...i m totaly confused wat i have in my car lol....
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if the axle has 2 sets of splines on the inner joint then why would you even consider getting an axle that only has 1 set?
trust what comes out not anything else.
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i think i got wrong transmission and the guy who owned before me he customized the axle....like this.....my transmission is not VLSD capable but on the wheel side my car is capable of ABS + VLSD lol this is the only thing left i can think of and now wat i m gonna do is buy an axle with ABS ONLY and take off the transmission side and put that side on my old AXLE or i can take the wheel side of my old axle and put on new one's wheel side...other way around i have to do this....

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i think i got wrong transmission and the guy who owned before me he customized the axle....like this.....my transmission is not VLSD capable but on the wheel side my car is capable of ABS + VLSD lol this is the only thing left i can think of and now wat i m gonna do is buy an axle with ABS ONLY and take off the transmission side and put that side on my old AXLE or i can take the wheel side of my old axle and put on new one's wheel side...other way around i have to do this....
if it's a 92SE then it's a VE... and if it's a VE then it's VLSD. end of story. whatever some idiot did before to the axle... forget that. if you have a VE auto, use the double-splined axle. open diff has a pin down it. VLSD has no pin. pic of pin in differential:




so put the car in neutral, and push the thing in turning it about a quarter-turn back and forth until it sinks in. as soon as the smooth non-splined part gets into the seal about an inch, that's about as in as it's gonna get.
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
if it's a 92SE then it's a VE... and if it's a VE then it's VLSD. end of story. whatever some idiot did before to the axle... forget that. if you have a VE auto, use the double-splined axle. open diff has a pin down it. VLSD has no pin. pic of pin in differential:




so put the car in neutral, and push the thing in turning it about a quarter-turn back and forth until it sinks in. as soon as the smooth non-splined part gets into the seal about an inch, that's about as in as it's gonna get.
i have the exact thing in my trans from the pic u posted....u r saying that VLSD dont have that shinniny pin as ur picture? and without VLSD have PIN? and does that PIN goes up if u put it in neutral and move the axle?

VLSD = NO PIN
PIN= NO VLSD?

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Originally Posted by burhangondal
i have the exact thing in my trans from the pic u posted....u r saying that VLSD dont have that shinniny pin as ur picture? and without VLSD have PIN? and does that PIN goes up if u put it in neutral and move the axle?

VLSD = NO PIN
PIN= NO VLSD?
hmmm maybe VLSD m/t is different then from VLSD a/t. because my (not yet in use) VLSD manual's differential has no pin like that running up the center. and no nothing causes that pin to move or anything.
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i am gonna go get an axle from junkyard with abs and without VLSD....maybe automatic SE'S came with that option like only ABS but not VLSD...

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Originally Posted by burhangondal
i am gonna go get an axle from junkyard with abs and without VLSD....maybe automatic SE'S came with that option like only ABS but not VLSD...
hold on. don't do anything yet.

first off, check the tranny code on the VIN plate. does it end in V?

also look inside the axle hole. take a pic in macro-mode or something. that pic i sent, you see clearly one set of splines. i looked into my ve5 tranny, and you can pretty clearly see both sets of splines in there.... make for darn sure you know what you have, via physical evidence, before doing anything crazy.
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where can i find Tranny Code like where is it located on tranny?

thanks man CAP u r a serious helpful member on this forum
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o ya sh** i have only one spline in my tranny axle hole..... i looked inside yesterday but i didnt have the camera to take pic but i m 200% sure i have only one spline in tranny axle hole....

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where can i find Tranny Code like where is it located on tranny?

thanks man CAP u r a serious helpful member on this forum
just look on the vin plate.... and take a pic or something... i've never heard of a VE without VLSD
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r u talking about the VIN on the dash board
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r u talking about the VIN on the dash board
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YEp

Engine = VE30 (DE)
Tranny = RE4F04V


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u know wat i think...there could be only two things left now....(1)someone installed vg transmission with VE engine....(2) some automatic VEs came with no VLSD

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somebody installed a vg auto...
is the starter on top of the transmission?
if it is, its a ve tranny.
if not :
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somebody installed a vg auto...
is the starter on top of the transmission?
if it is, its a ve tranny.
if not :
i will check if i have starter on top of the transmission most likely it wont but wat if it is vg transmission? wats gonna happen
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Originally Posted by burhangondal
YEp

Engine = VE30 (DE)
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Originally Posted by burhangondal
u know wat i think...there could be only two things left now....(1)someone installed vg transmission with VE engine....(2) some automatic VEs came with no VLSD
your car originally came with a VLSD.
the Tranny code shows that by ending with a "V"

You still have as of yet to show us a picture of the original axle that came out of the car.
When there is an issue with a previously functioning part, and it's replacement not fitting / functioning ALWAYS go back and compare it to the original part removed from the car.
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
your car originally came with a VLSD.
the Tranny code shows that by ending with a "V"

You still have as of yet to show us a picture of the original axle that came out of the car.
When there is an issue with a previously functioning part, and it's replacement not fitting / functioning ALWAYS go back and compare it to the original part removed from the car.
i didnt even buy any axle yet...i bought it but returned it cuz i bought the wrong axle with only abs but i knew my car was VLSD +ABS till now i found out that i have some tranny problems i have the wrong axle spinning in my tranny since so long....ya i will take the picture as i m driving the car as is...we have long weekend here...so it means no college till Tuesday....wen i will go to college i will put the car on hose and take the pic plus i dont have any tools with me at home...

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i didnt even buy any axle yet...i bought it but returned it cuz i bought the wrong axle with only abs but i knew my car was VLSD +ABS till now i found out that i have some tranny problems i have the wrong axle spinning in my tranny since so long....ya i will take the picture as i m driving the car as is...we have long weekend here...so it means no college till Tuesday....wen i will go to college i will put the car on hose and take the pic plus i dont have any tools with me at home...
well.. tell us this. is the big flat thing on top of the tranny, or on bottom?
VE w/ pan on bottom

VG w/ pan on top
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ok i have the Pan on the bottom and starter on the top so it means i have VE tranny? here are the pic's of axle where it stops going in and the starter pic...sorry i took pics with my Motorola phone kinda blurry...my sis took my camera with her to states....here r the pics..




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yup, ve tranny. a possibility is your car somehow got an "a" code transmission. has it ever been replaced, that you know of?
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i thought VEs only came with ''v'' code transmission....so my tranny is ''a'' but VE's ''a''...right? and i got the car like that, dont know wat its been through before me....some Russian drunk guy owned though......

so i dont have VLSD?
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Originally Posted by burhangondal
i thought VEs only came with ''v'' code transmission....so my tranny is ''a'' but VE's ''a''...right? and i got the car like that, dont know wat its been through before me....some Russian drunk guy owned though......

so i dont have VLSD?
all VEs are V but someone may have put an A tranny on instead... perhaps a rebuilt tranny at a shop put an A on not knowing better. i don't know if the fit is direct from VE to VQ30 tho... i doubt it.
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Originally Posted by capedcadaver
all VEs are V but someone may have put an A tranny on instead... perhaps a rebuilt tranny at a shop put an A on not knowing better. i don't know if the fit is direct from VE to VQ30 tho... i doubt it.
so i guess i have to buy an axle without VLSD AND WITH ABS and use that one....sounds good? or do i have any choice left?

and wat ya mean '' fit is direct from VE to VQ30''?

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Originally Posted by burhangondal
so i guess i have to buy an axle without VLSD AND WITH ABS and use that one....sounds good? or do i have any choice left?

and wat ya mean '' fit is direct from VE to VQ30''?
REF04A is a 4th gen automatic tranny, from the VQ30. I didn't think it would fit onto a VE engine.... In any event how far is the axle going in anyways? the double-splined axle... maybe you think it goes in farther than it really does? Ionno. i cannot possibly understand how anyone would take VLSD away from a VE car...



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