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family or sports sedan?
08-12-2008, 08:17 PM
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family or sports sedan?
since i have been reading random threads and been noticing that some people say '' 3rd gen is a big fat nose family sedan and it can never be a sports car'' some say '' its a sports sedan and we can make it work to a fully sports car''.....just a poll that wat ppl really think about 3RD GEN....
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08-12-2008, 08:33 PM
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It was marketed as a sports sedan and I believe that the 3rd gen lives up to that name.
08-12-2008, 09:01 PM
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+1... It definitely has some sporty attributes to it that many other four door sedans don't have, but I definitely wouldn't consider it a flat out sports sedan like an M3 or something. It's a quick, sporty, sedan though.
08-12-2008, 09:46 PM
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I think the Maxima resulted when a 5 series was mated with a Camry. Sometimes its frustrating how much the Maxima is neither this or that. Its neither fast nor slow, its not large or small, its not loaded or stripped, its not nimble or clumsy. Its not good on gas its not bad on gas. Its not a heavy car, its not a light car. Its not embarassing to drive, but it doesn't impress anyone either. It the most extra-medium thing in existence.
08-12-2008, 09:55 PM
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I think the Maxima resulted when a 5 series was mated with a Camry. Sometimes its frustrating how much the Maxima is neither this or that. Its neither fast nor slow, its not large or small, its not loaded or stripped, its not nimble or clumsy. Its not good on gas its not bad on gas. Its not a heavy car, its not a light car. Its not embarassing to drive, but it doesn't impress anyone either. It the most extra-medium thing in existence.
08-12-2008, 09:56 PM
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I'd have to say family car, sorry everyone, but i also own an e36
08-12-2008, 10:01 PM
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lol thats okay....everyone have their rights 
08-12-2008, 10:03 PM
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still not voting.
yeah, it isn't a bmw, but it isnt an accord, either, or a corolla.
take it for what it is. big and fun.
besides. no poll will make anyone change their minds.
IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!
yeah, it isn't a bmw, but it isnt an accord, either, or a corolla.
take it for what it is. big and fun.
besides. no poll will make anyone change their minds.
IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!
08-12-2008, 10:29 PM
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.....U ROCK BENSTOKED 
EDIT: on the other hand, of course i would except more people to say that its a SPORTS SEDAN...but ya....NO COMMENTS...... cuz my self i m double minded right now lolololol
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08-12-2008, 10:30 PM
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08-12-2008, 10:53 PM
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I think my JDM brochure sums it up best: 'On first sight, the new Maxima makes a deep impression--gives a feeling of a generous size which is unusual in Japanese cars and more in keeping with internationally-renowned imported automobiles. Yet Maxima has the unique Japanese characteristics which make it feel so "at home" on the roads here. It is a Japanese car built for Japanese conditions--yet sure to be appreciated by knowledgeable and sophisticated adults. That's why we say: Nissan proudly presents a new personal sedan, born in Japan for the exclusive, internationally-minded "elite" market here."
The best part of that brochure is the accessories section which peddles lace doily seat covers alongside chin spoilers and wings.
In South Africa, however, it seems to make a good funeral car:
The best part of that brochure is the accessories section which peddles lace doily seat covers alongside chin spoilers and wings.
In South Africa, however, it seems to make a good funeral car:
08-13-2008, 06:59 AM
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I say Sports Sedan because my maxima rides very stiff on stock suspension. It's not rough when hitting potholes or other bad bumps in the road, but it's not smooth as is a luxury car. Accords (especially Camrys) are nowhere near as taut as the Maxima. Very taut riding. I often feel like I'm driving in a low rider or something... I notice myself jolting in the driver seat while driving around. Again, it's not rough at all... just very tight riding. Needs new bushings, so cornering suffers, but I can still take a corner with the best of them.
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08-13-2008, 07:07 AM
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notice those with the fastest 3rd gens voted for option #1? That's b/c they've been there, done that, and have forgotten more about them than most of us will ever know to begin with.
Stock, they are kinda fat nose-heavy family cars. Modded they are faster, funner, sexier fat nose-heavy family cars. But so what? We love 'em anyways.
Stock, they are kinda fat nose-heavy family cars. Modded they are faster, funner, sexier fat nose-heavy family cars. But so what? We love 'em anyways.
08-13-2008, 07:09 AM
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notice those with the fastest 3rd gens voted for option #1? That's b/c they've been there, done that, and have forgotten more about them than most of us will ever know to begin with.
Stock, they are kinda fat nose-heavy family cars. Modded they are faster, funner, sexier fat nose-heavy family cars. But so what? We love 'em anyways.
Stock, they are kinda fat nose-heavy family cars. Modded they are faster, funner, sexier fat nose-heavy family cars. But so what? We love 'em anyways.
08-13-2008, 07:52 AM
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LOL Oh yeah, I know. Now, I haven't any specs on how quick my car is. All I've done was the usual intake cone install, magnaflow exhaust (broken manifold studs at the moment) and a slight tweak to the timing. Believe it or not, I spanked a 2003 Mustang GT one day, but after he went through his gears and started rowing, he left me like I was standing still. But still, on takeoff, he wasn't ready. I figured the guy couldn't drive, but we did it twice and I got him the same way. No one believes me, but I do have that guy as proof. No turbo on mine, other than what I said earlier, it's all stock. And as for those Accord V6's, I've raped a couple of them too. However they easily gain on the maxima at higher rpms. Of course I don't have the world's fastes 3rd Gen, but I'm not afraid to take on any normally aspirated so-called sports cars.
08-13-2008, 07:55 AM
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LOL Oh yeah, I know. Now, I haven't any specs on how quick my car is. All I've done was the usual intake cone install, magnaflow exhaust (broken manifold studs at the moment) and a slight tweak to the timing. Believe it or not, I spanked a 2003 Mustang GT one day, but after he went through his gears and started rowing, he left me like I was standing still. But still, on takeoff, he wasn't ready. I figured the guy couldn't drive, but we did it twice and I got him the same way. No one believes me, but I do have that guy as proof. No turbo on mine, other than what I said earlier, it's all stock. And as for those Accord V6's, I've raped a couple of them too. However they easily gain on the maxima at higher rpms. Of course I don't have the world's fastes 3rd Gen, but I'm not afraid to take on any normally aspirated so-called sports cars.
08-13-2008, 01:16 PM
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i vote the 3rd option also.
i like the facts my siblings don't complain about space anymore. they can have their bookbags ect in the car and still have space.
the ride is stiff enough for me, but soft enough where noone else complains about the ride.
and their safe.
and bling theory.
a 3rd gen in general can outrun a 2000 accord v6.
i like the facts my siblings don't complain about space anymore. they can have their bookbags ect in the car and still have space.
the ride is stiff enough for me, but soft enough where noone else complains about the ride.
and their safe.
and bling theory.
a 3rd gen in general can outrun a 2000 accord v6.
08-13-2008, 01:26 PM
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i vote the 3rd option also.
i like the facts my siblings don't complain about space anymore. they can have their bookbags ect in the car and still have space.
the ride is stiff enough for me, but soft enough where noone else complains about the ride.
and their safe.
and bling theory.
a 3rd gen in general can outrun a 2000 accord v6.
i like the facts my siblings don't complain about space anymore. they can have their bookbags ect in the car and still have space.
the ride is stiff enough for me, but soft enough where noone else complains about the ride.
and their safe.
and bling theory.
a 3rd gen in general can outrun a 2000 accord v6.
190hp (let alone 160hp) is not SERIOUS power. this is a true sports sedan:
08-13-2008, 02:06 PM
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post numbers 2,3,4 & 5 are great the whole big and fun thing was funny makes me think of fat women i'd have to agree and disagree with post #23 heres my reason why. i agree because by todays standards be it 190 or 160 hp is not enough,its still pretty strong but still not enough. But i disagree cause in its time it was a pretty badass car so in some aspects it is both. a family hauler and a sports sedan for its class. its also still cool to here guys that are 10 years older than me that drive high end cars say MAN I MISS THAT CAR!!!!! aww man i had an Se with bose system man it was loaded sunroof spoiler fog lights the works.(true story) when was the last any of us heard that about a car that was compared to the 3rd gen in its time. me personally i think nissan started the whole sports sedan thing.I may be wrong in fact i know im wrong but hey im biased
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08-13-2008, 02:18 PM
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post numbers 2,3,4 & 5 are great the whole big and fun thing was funny makes me think of fat women i'd have to agree and disagree with post #23 heres my reason why. i agree because by todays standards be it 190 or 160 hp is not enough,its still pretty strong but still not enough. But i disagree cause in its time it was a pretty badass car so in some aspects it is both. a family hauler and a sports sedan for its class. its also still cool to here guys that are 10 years older than me that drive high end cars say MAN I MISS THAT CAR!!!!! aww man i had an Se with bose system man it was loaded sunroof spoiler fog lights the works.(true story) when was the last any of us heard that about a car that was compared to the 3rd gen in its time. me personally i think nissan started the whole sports sedan thing.I may be wrong in fact i know im wrong but hey im biased
2000 accord v6 is 200hp and 2990 lbs.... give or take 100 for trim and load. depending on transmission i can see a VE5 taking it, and maybe a VE auto... i'm not too sure a VG could take it. I often wonder when people "own this and that car" how often the other driver actually totally floored it though...
08-13-2008, 04:18 PM
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i guess im talking bout both,in its time it was a hell of a car im pretty sure we've all seen it go up against a competitor and win and then now there still some cars that it can take with out question. from a family sedan perspective its a cozy car nice and roomy hefty trunk space the ergonomics are great beside the fact that you have to mod a cup holder or buy one ( i think i may have struck a nerve on that one
) From a performance perspective it still handles great performs solid. with an exhaust air intake a tweak of the suspension you got yourself a lil sleeper that'll **** off alot of people. Now to the looks department now grant it there aint that many aftermarket bodykits (to my knowledge) for our cars But that damn stillen kit man thats one sexy kit.clear corners set of euros dropped on a mean set of 18's or 17's your choice and got yourself a car that looks good not gaudy or what some may say "ricey".I think it should go down as one the best sedan's in history. so to answer you question then and now.Cause its still a respected car. and sleepy run up agaist a turbo'ed legacy or a turbo'ed Pt cruiser and see what'll happen lol
) From a performance perspective it still handles great performs solid. with an exhaust air intake a tweak of the suspension you got yourself a lil sleeper that'll **** off alot of people. Now to the looks department now grant it there aint that many aftermarket bodykits (to my knowledge) for our cars But that damn stillen kit man thats one sexy kit.clear corners set of euros dropped on a mean set of 18's or 17's your choice and got yourself a car that looks good not gaudy or what some may say "ricey".I think it should go down as one the best sedan's in history. so to answer you question then and now.Cause its still a respected car. and sleepy run up agaist a turbo'ed legacy or a turbo'ed Pt cruiser and see what'll happen lol
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08-13-2008, 07:30 PM
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as for the accord i was talking about auto vs auto.
and yea a good running vg could take an accord v6.
the ve though imo will leave it
and yea a good running vg could take an accord v6.
the ve though imo will leave it
08-13-2008, 08:10 PM
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um, I've had a few legacies. They are extremely capable cars because they weigh very little, and have wonderful gearing.
08-13-2008, 09:35 PM
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my buddy owns 2006 maxima SE and believe or not he smoked 2007 accord and TL front of everyone's eyes.....but cumonn u cant just take 16 years old car and except it to beat cars who r way newer than its age...but still it can make new cars think not to mess with....ya if its modded with turbo and stuff than its a totally different story it can take many cars on the road easily....i donno about 00 v6 accord but i have smoked my friends 1998 v6 accord 200hp 3 TIMES in drag and he still doesn't wanna believe and want to try again.....
edit: BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT if ur 3rd gen is modded with turbos and stiffer suspension and many other performance modes so u can start to compare with high performance cars like M3 or AMG lol thats never gonna happen with 3RD GEN....get a 7TH GEN if u wanna compete with those cars...keep it low with its ages cars or maybe few newer cars...
Everything changes with TIME
edit: BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT if ur 3rd gen is modded with turbos and stiffer suspension and many other performance modes so u can start to compare with high performance cars like M3 or AMG lol thats never gonna happen with 3RD GEN....get a 7TH GEN if u wanna compete with those cars...keep it low with its ages cars or maybe few newer cars...
Everything changes with TIME
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08-14-2008, 12:26 AM
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Ive gotta say that for the 90's it was a sports sedan. V6, allow wheels, power everything, spoiler, Variable timing, BOSE, adjustable trans, adjustable suspension. Most of this being standard.
08-14-2008, 12:38 AM
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here are some true family cars these are 2008 models and their stats suck
also arent family cars suppose to come with 5star safety not 3star safety like ours?
honda accord ex safest car award
Horsepower 190-hp @ 7,000 rpm
Torque162 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
saturn vue best car for small families
Horsepower 169-hp @ 6,200 rpm
Torque161 lbs.-ft. @ 5,100 rpm
subaru legacy most kid freindly
Horsepower 170-hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque170 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
also arent family cars suppose to come with 5star safety not 3star safety like ours?
honda accord ex safest car award
Horsepower 190-hp @ 7,000 rpm
Torque162 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
saturn vue best car for small families
Horsepower 169-hp @ 6,200 rpm
Torque161 lbs.-ft. @ 5,100 rpm
subaru legacy most kid freindly
Horsepower 170-hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque170 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
08-14-2008, 03:15 AM
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here are some true family cars these are 2008 models and their stats suck
also arent family cars suppose to come with 5star safety not 3star safety like ours?
honda accord ex safest car award
Horsepower 190-hp @ 7,000 rpm
Torque162 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
saturn vue best car for small families
Horsepower 169-hp @ 6,200 rpm
Torque161 lbs.-ft. @ 5,100 rpm
subaru legacy most kid freindly
Horsepower 170-hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque170 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
also arent family cars suppose to come with 5star safety not 3star safety like ours?
honda accord ex safest car award
Horsepower 190-hp @ 7,000 rpm
Torque162 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
saturn vue best car for small families
Horsepower 169-hp @ 6,200 rpm
Torque161 lbs.-ft. @ 5,100 rpm
subaru legacy most kid freindly
Horsepower 170-hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque170 lbs.-ft. @ 4,400 rpm
08-14-2008, 05:00 AM
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camry is weird they have a 4cyl that makes 155hp but they have a V6 that makes 268hp but no manual transmission is available on the V6 but it is available on the 4cyl also read the reviews they make it sound awful
found this one to compare a sports sedan
Mazda3 sport best overall value in a sports sedan under 38k
Horsepower 156-hp @ 6,500 rpm
Torque 150 lbs.-ft. @ 4,500 rpm
found this one to compare a sports sedan
Mazda3 sport best overall value in a sports sedan under 38k
Horsepower 156-hp @ 6,500 rpm
Torque 150 lbs.-ft. @ 4,500 rpm
08-14-2008, 11:57 AM
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ok... we're comparing it family cars. Let's try a sports sedan from 1990
1990 BMW M5 (E46)
3.8L inline 6-cylinder
340HP
6spd manual
RWD
stock 17" alloys
so. now we're looking back at 1990.... dare you to race any stock 3rd gen against that M5 stock, on any type of track. you'll get a good view of the license plate.
1990 BMW M5 (E46)
3.8L inline 6-cylinder
340HP
6spd manual
RWD
stock 17" alloys
so. now we're looking back at 1990.... dare you to race any stock 3rd gen against that M5 stock, on any type of track. you'll get a good view of the license plate.
08-14-2008, 01:30 PM
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ok... we're comparing it family cars. Let's try a sports sedan from 1990
1990 BMW M5 (E46)
3.8L inline 6-cylinder
340HP
6spd manual
RWD
stock 17" alloys
so. now we're looking back at 1990.... dare you to race any stock 3rd gen against that M5 stock, on any type of track. you'll get a good view of the license plate.
1990 BMW M5 (E46)
3.8L inline 6-cylinder
340HP
6spd manual
RWD
stock 17" alloys
so. now we're looking back at 1990.... dare you to race any stock 3rd gen against that M5 stock, on any type of track. you'll get a good view of the license plate.
1993 BMW M3 (E36)
3400lbs
3.0 Liter DOHC Inline 6-cylinder
250HP/ 255FT. LBS TQ
5-spd Manual/Auto
RWD
0-60 in low to mid 6's
Top speed of 137/140 (for newer E36 M3's)
For the performance figures the BMW has and where the maxima lacks on paper, being FWD, and only weighing slightly less. It holds it's own in a straight line pretty good, while the BMW pretty much raped it in any kind of handling aspect, the max definitely was marketed towards lower income, still want a quick, sporty little affordable car that feels higher in class than it's true competitors (Price Wise) in the Camry's and Accords. Though regardless of what other people say, for the price of a 15+ year old "family sedan", dropping it, adding sway bars, replacing the bushings with good one's, and maybe putting on some tower braces the maxima handles DAMN well in comparison to anything in it's price range for a comparable vehicle.
08-14-2008, 02:28 PM
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well you know in consumer reports it has one section for 'sporty' and one section for 'sports'? I would call the 3G a "Sporty Family Sedan", similarly to how the Celica is a "sporty car" in the 80s-2000s, compared to, say, a Corvette, which is a true "Sports Car (coupe)", and the M5 is a true "Sports Sedan", along with the likes of E-Class AMG's and whatnot.
So... Maxima:Celica::M5:Corvette, in a nutshell.
I don't disagree with the fact that you can do the drop/sways/etc and get it to handle really well... will any other similar car handle as well if you do the same to it? Wouldn't, say, a 1992 (3rd gen) Camry with eibachs, tokicos, swaybars and strut bars handle as much better compared to its stock version than a modded 3G max does vs a stock max?
So... Maxima:Celica::M5:Corvette, in a nutshell.
I don't disagree with the fact that you can do the drop/sways/etc and get it to handle really well... will any other similar car handle as well if you do the same to it? Wouldn't, say, a 1992 (3rd gen) Camry with eibachs, tokicos, swaybars and strut bars handle as much better compared to its stock version than a modded 3G max does vs a stock max?
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08-14-2008, 03:43 PM
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well you know in consumer reports it has one section for 'sporty' and one section for 'sports'? I would call the 3G a "Sporty Family Sedan", similarly to how the Celica is a "sporty car" in the 80s-2000s, compared to, say, a Corvette, which is a true "Sports Car (coupe)", and the M5 is a true "Sports Sedan", along with the likes of E-Class AMG's and whatnot.
So... Maxima:Celica::M5:Corvette, in a nutshell.
I don't disagree with the fact that you can do the drop/sways/etc and get it to handle really well... will any other similar car handle as well if you do the same to it? Wouldn't, say, a 1992 (3rd gen) Camry with eibachs, tokicos, swaybars and strut bars handle as much better compared to its stock version than a modded 3G max does vs a stock max?
So... Maxima:Celica::M5:Corvette, in a nutshell.
I don't disagree with the fact that you can do the drop/sways/etc and get it to handle really well... will any other similar car handle as well if you do the same to it? Wouldn't, say, a 1992 (3rd gen) Camry with eibachs, tokicos, swaybars and strut bars handle as much better compared to its stock version than a modded 3G max does vs a stock max?