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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Oh no, not again





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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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aw sheeyit. i never even knew you guys were in for a storm....

well i really hope this turns out well....... every time i see your sig i always think "damn that's a good-looking car". at least you've got a couple competent ORGers down there to lend a hand if they've got the time.
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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if houston gets any rain, it always ends up flooding.

hope she'll be alright.
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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dyam look at those rims....f*k hate storms and snow
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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nooo... you couldn't move it to higher ground somewhere? I'd die if that happened. It there is even hail on the forecast I go park my car under one of those spray it yourself car washes. (no garage)
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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nooo... you couldn't move it to higher ground somewhere? I'd die if that happened. It there is even hail on the forecast I go park my car under one of those spray it yourself car washes. (no garage)

LOL you park at a carwash!!! you're so G.

yea i'm LUCKY as hell my car didn't get crushed by a limb yet.... the tree over the driveway LOVES to drop stuff.....

hope Mike's weatherstripping is in good watertight shape..
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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If I had known the rain was going to be this intense, I obviously would've moved it.

Before I took the pics, I disconnected the battery, hooray. After that I cleared the street drain of leaves, that got rid of ALL the water.

Then I went out there with the jack and raised the front to drain water from the exhaust. Leaves and branches took up every empty spot under the hood, cleared some of those out. There is a puddle on the passenger side, I dont think it got to the ECU like it did last year, but I'll find out later.

Game plan is just like last year's flood: remove and dry seats, re-pad carpet, check things over, giddyup. Oil seals are good everywhere, so water couldnt have gotten in the engine or tranny. The CAI cone was underwater though, so I'll replace that for sure.

And for reference, here is the thread from its flood in August 2007: http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...-how-ends.html
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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If I had known the rain was going to be this intense, I obviously would've moved it.

Before I took the pics, I disconnected the battery, hooray. After that I cleared the street drain of leaves, that got rid of ALL the water.

Then I went out there with the jack and raised the front to drain water from the exhaust. Leaves and branches took up every empty spot under the hood, cleared some of those out. There is a puddle on the passenger side, I dont think it got to the ECU like it did last year, but I'll find out later.

Game plan is just like last year's flood: remove and dry seats, re-pad carpet, check things over, giddyup. Oil seals are good everywhere, so water couldnt have gotten in the engine or tranny. The CAI cone was underwater though, so I'll replace that for sure.

And for reference, here is the thread from its flood in August 2007: http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...-how-ends.html
at least you have experience this time
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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I think I'm going to take this opportunity to install a bunch of sound deadening, and I'll probably drain the engine oil after all, just as a precaution. Here is a pic from the submerged side:

Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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u should build some kind of higher spot for ur car so u can park dere whenever u feel that this is going to happen....sorry about the car tho...i hope ntn goes wrong with the car after water goes away....

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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
If I had known the rain was going to be this intense, I obviously would've moved it.

/snip/
Originally Posted by burhan92SE
u should build some kind of higher spot for ur car so u can park dere whenever u feel that this is going to happen....sorry about the car tho...i hope u ntn goes wrong with the car after water goes away....
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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ECU is dead-ish, time to get my 3rd ECU for this car.

I dont think it got in the water though. Maybe it got a current once the alternator was underwater? It would be interesting to find out, but I dont feel like browsing through the relay diagrams.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
ECU is dead-ish, time to get my 3rd ECU for this car.

I dont think it got in the water though. Maybe it got a current once the alternator was underwater? It would be interesting to find out, but I dont feel like browsing through the relay diagrams.
big oops...

Batt can drain as the charge wires short to gnd via water, possibly damage alt regulator = no charge.

ECU should be ok if water level did not rise at it. Why u think ECU is dead?

edit: u must get a remote alarm, integrate a flood level float-switch in it. Doors sealed...

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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:43 AM
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I remember how much work you had to do last year, depressing stuff.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mikekantor
ECU is dead-ish, time to get my 3rd ECU for this car.

I dont think it got in the water though. Maybe it got a current once the alternator was underwater? It would be interesting to find out, but I dont feel like browsing through the relay diagrams.
how do u know if ECU is dead? let ur car dry then check everything out...
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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Dude...you seriously need to move...
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:09 AM
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Or maybe install a few bilge pumps?
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:11 AM
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Or buy one of these?



Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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I think that stuff is heading towards me. Fay stalled on top of my town and dropped 23 inches of rain in 24 hours or so, 33 total.

Just sayin... I feel you bro lol. Good luck
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Or buy one of these?



Anyone willing to start a new mod thread?
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:10 AM
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Man hopefully you can get her back to running 100% again. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Wiking
big oops...

Batt can drain as the charge wires short to gnd via water, possibly damage alt regulator = no charge.

ECU should be ok if water level did not rise at it. Why u think ECU is dead?

edit: u must get a remote alarm, integrate a flood level float-switch in it. Doors sealed...
Batt didnt have much time to drain, I removed the negative cable as soon as I got out there. I actually started it up after checking around and a bit of cleanup, and drove it out of the street.

After I turned it off, it wouldnt operate correctly again and it seemed like the ECU was in failsafe mode, which is what happened last time. The fans run when the key is in the On position, which is one of the symptoms.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Greeny
Or maybe install a few bilge pumps?
It was really just this one street drain. If there had been a sand bag in front of it to block the debris, this wouldve been just another rain storm. Anyway, I am moving somewhere else in town within the next few months.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Batt didnt have much time to drain, I removed the negative cable as soon as I got out there. I actually started it up after checking around and a bit of cleanup, and drove it out of the street.

After I turned it off, it wouldnt operate correctly again and it seemed like the ECU was in failsafe mode, which is what happened last time. The fans run when the key is in the On position, which is one of the symptoms.
Failsafe comes on if sensor input is missing, like crank angle. Maybe water in connectors, lost distr gnd or water inside cap... ; belts whip moisture around...

O2 and its wiring definitely dived.

Did water ? reach relay box under water reservoir ---> relays drunk = fans ON. Also if ECTS temp sensor loses contact, fans do come on.
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Failsafe comes on if sensor input is missing, like crank angle. Maybe water in connectors, lost distr gnd or water inside cap... ; belts whip moisture around...

O2 and its wiring definitely dived.

Did water ? reach relay box under water reservoir ---> relays drunk = fans ON. Also if ECTS temp sensor loses contact, fans do come on.
disty/cap aren't part of it this time... VE -> coilpacks
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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Or maybe install a few bilge pumps?
I can draw a schema how to use ASCD -pump as a bilge pump. Just switch and some extra hosing... Or use windscreen washer pump.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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crazy, good luck with everything.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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hey, mike let me know if you need any help. This is Tv4184's friend.
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Should have come parked it at my place...Covered multi-level parking FTW. I have never seen rain as hard as that in my life! Definitely waded thru a few puddles on the way home...My only concern was my CAI, but I think it's OK. Sorry to see that again, Mike. Seriously, next time it starts raining like that bring your car over to my place and I will give you a ride home.
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time for new door seals?
Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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time for new door seals?
Probably, but I doubt they would contain so much water. Its not a boat, there are many ways in. Are new door seals available in some generic form to just cut and attach, or is that more of a dealer part. I know some of them have distinct shapes.

I cleaned up the engine bay, exhaust, and suspension. Reconnected the oil pressure harness which came loose. When I tried to start it, I still saw symptoms of a bad ECU. I pulled off the panel and saw the constant red LED, as I expected, but then when I turned the diagnostic screw clockwise/counterclockwise, it seemed to reset it somehow, so now its working fine! I ran the engine at idle for a while and everything seems OK, aside from some other problem noises I was already aware of.

This afternoon I did buy a replacement ECU out of haste, so I'll have an extra now. Took out the interior this evening, its all drying now.
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http://www.courtesyparts.com/maxima-...1747_1751.html
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Those arent on the bottom, and thats too much $ for no hp gain
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daim you must live on the northside cuz i saw the news that the northside got fluded preety bad. I would cry if i saw my car under water like that. I was scared of that happening when ike came cuz i live right next to the bayou.
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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daim you must live on the northside cuz i saw the news that the northside got fluded preety bad. I would cry if i saw my car under water like that. I was scared of that happening when ike came cuz i live right next to the bayou.
I'm near Rice
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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D0000d!

Move
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Ground



That is all.
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D0000d!

Move
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That is all.
that's what i'm sayin!!!!

Fawk that sheit, i would have had my crap packed the next day after the first incident.
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D0000d!

Move
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That is all.
soon...
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 04:56 PM
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So mike, did you install the new ecu yet? Did this happen only to your car or surrounding cars as well?
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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So mike, did you install the new ecu yet? Did this happen only to your car or surrounding cars as well?
It happened to a few dozen cars in the area, and some that just drove into the water like idiots.

New ECU is sitting in the box for now, mine seems fine after all. I had a massively busy weekend, so I didnt do much with the car except a bit of extra cleaning inside, and took out the lap belts to dry becuase I forgot to before.

I'll try to put it back together today, or maybe later this week. I'm reading up on sound deadening right now, so if I choose to add any while its all apart then this will take a few extra days.



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