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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 11:59 PM
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Crankshaft pulley TURNED

So i was in the process of changing the water pump.. got all belts off ect ect.. and then i went to take the crankshaft pulley off. I used an impact wrench at first and had no luck at removing the crankshaft bolt. Next i tried a breaker bar and when using this i made the MISTAKE of letting the crankshaft pulley actually turn... Will this will create a bigger problem for me since the crankshaft pulley has been rotated? If so what do i now need to do to fix it...
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpp85
So i was in the process of changing the water pump.. got all belts off ect ect.. and then i went to take the crankshaft pulley off. I used an impact wrench at first and had no luck at removing the crankshaft bolt. Next i tried a breaker bar and when using this i made the MISTAKE of letting the crankshaft pulley actually turn... Will this will create a bigger problem for me since the crankshaft pulley has been rotated? If so what do i now need to do to fix it...
T belt is/was off? ---> If you clearly marked your ol belt along with all three sprockets before taking the belt off, no extra hassle. Just copy its marks on the new belt, align before pulling it on. If not, then you have to observe the engine rebuild process: find out the factory markings to align crank & cams before pulling the belt on.

Not touched the T-belt? ---> accessory belts, crankshaft pulley have no timing and can be rotated in whatever position...
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 01:07 AM
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I have timing chain so yes it was still connected when the pulley was turned.. will this mess with the timing
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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I have timing chain so yes it was still connected when the pulley was turned.. will this mess with the timing
As said, theres NO timing with these three accessory belts. They deliver only operating power to the accessories connected. Thus you can turn em individually into whichever position...

(When no teeth on any belt driven system pulleys, belt, then timing cannot ever exist)
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Unless it sheared the key drifts you'll be needing a new/used crank!
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Thank god!!! i was so worried i messed up the timing, thanks a bunch guys
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Unless it sheared the key drifts you'll be needing a new/used crank!
Truly the pulley groove has to fit with the key... but I guess t-here was no problem?



Here is not question of timing, but just traction: pulley is not allowed to slip on the crank...

If the key/groove was broken beyond repair, then one option is to drill a hole longitudinally for another key/pin. The new hole/groove would 'cover' half on pulley, half on the crank axle end; use drill bit as a key. Not a good option, but working and is done smtimes when the other option is junking the whole engine...

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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All it did was turn the damn engine backwards. stop freaking out people.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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All it did was turn the damn engine backwards. stop freaking out people.
Hey now tell me whats wrong in explaining an issue this guy needs? If that wont fit your soul, I quit.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 12:37 PM
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Absolutely nothing wrong with explaining possible repair methods, but make sure we're comparing apples to apples.

With comments from CMax, Here's this n00blet guy thinking he's possibly going to have to replace his crank or rebuild the engine when the only thing that happened is the engine turned backwards a bit while he was trying to break the crank bolt loose. He needs to quit using his mat and ask more questions.



Your explanations are usually spot on, albeit somewhat unorthodox at times. And yes, thanks for the help you do provide. We all appreciate your willingness to help out.
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Hah, I thought all it did was spin the engine backwards but all the sheit in this thread scared me enough not to even post.
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Originally Posted by Wiking
Truly the pulley groove has to fit with the key... but I guess t-here was no problem?



Here is not question of timing, but just traction: pulley is not allowed to slip on the crank...

If the key/groove was broken beyond repair, then one option is to drill a hole longitudinally for another key/pin. The new hole/groove would 'cover' half on pulley, half on the crank axle end; use drill bit as a key. Not a good option, but working and is done smtimes when the other option is junking the whole engine...
With comments from CMax, Here's this n00blet guy thinking he's possibly going to have to replace his crank or rebuild the engine when the only thing that happened is the engine turned backwards a bit while he was trying to break the crank bolt loose. He needs to quit using his mat and ask more questions

It appears to me that the key drift is looking sorta short and no where as tall as the key slot in the crank pulley! You might wanna get some more key drifts...It looks sheared to me! As long as the crank snout's key drift slot is not all screwed you'll be fine!
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Put down the crackpipe, man.... that pic is from Autozone's website, straight out of the Chilton's manual.
and it's completely normal to look like that.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Put down the crackpipe, man.... that pic is from Autozone's website, straight out of the Chilton's manual.
and it's completely normal to look like that.
Sorry crap dealer! I don't shop @ places like that...you know what I mean? Unaware of their website/datadase....Just remember your running a business not me...so don't overload mouth with your *** or vice versa! Some reason or another you're always trying to think down and talk down to folks...It's not that cool, just in cause you think it is.....!
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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this thread is funny lol i feel bad for saying that but lawlz. I remember I scared myself a while back with this same issue.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Sorry crap dealer! I don't shop @ places like that...you know what I mean? Unaware of their website/datadase....Just remember your running a business not me...so don't overload mouth with your *** or vice versa! Some reason or another you're always trying to think down and talk down to folks...It's not that cool, just in cause you think it is.....!
1. Don't threaten me. Do it again and I'll see to it that you don't post here again. And the rest of the mods have my back.
2. I don't run that business anymore. I sold it a year ago.
3. You must not read the FAQs here (that's obvious from your posts), since the Autozone service manual has been posted in the stickies for about 5 years.
4. Autozone sells most of the same brands of parts that all the others do. Many of them employ retards, but that goes the same for all the other stores around here as well.
5. I'm not trying to talk down to people. If I see a stupid comment, I call out the stupidity and make sure it isn't passed on to another person..... I'm putting in the chlorine this country's godawful genepool needs.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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1. Don't threaten me. Do it again and I'll see to it that you don't post here again. And the rest of the mods have my back.
2. I don't run that business anymore. I sold it a year ago.
3. You must not read the FAQs here (that's obvious from your posts), since the Autozone service manual has been posted in the stickies for about 5 years.
4. Autozone sells most of the same brands of parts that all the others do. Many of them employ retards, but that goes the same for all the other stores around here as well.
5. I'm not trying to talk down to people. If I see a stupid comment, I call out the stupidity and make sure it isn't passed on to another person..... I'm putting in the chlorine this country's godawful genepool needs.
No I don't have that much time on my hands, to read all those stickies... As for threats, I didn't threaten you! You were apparently were threatened...So do me a favor and drink some of that chlorine yourself, it might clear your head up to think up,some new products for perhaps some Kia's or the like.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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interesting.....
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
seriously man.. give it a rest. we appreciate that you helped move things along with the ASP pulleys, but this time, you misread a few things and jumped to a conclusion about someone else's car, and once proven wrong, took up arms about it. The dude saw his pulley turn and assumed that it turned AGAINST the crank... which it DID NOT. The whole crank and rotating assembly turned... so regardless what picture came from where, who figured out what really happened, or what the price of tea is in china.. chill out.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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I'm always chilled.....we're just kicking some words around....I gave my opinion then the sh*t talking started....I was modded/modding B4 Maxima.Org and will continue...later....
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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CMax03. To put it bluntly, either calm down and admit you were incorrect or try to imagine what a bright red name with how many posts could do.

Have a great day.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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As others have mentioned you're in the clear, but for future reference turning the engine backwards should be avoided.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Just remember your running a business not me...so don't overload mouth with your *** or vice versa!
Certainly sounds like a threat to me. Please explain ANY other valid reason for you to bring up me running a business.

Then again, one would think that running a business modifying Maximas would give me more credibility. :shrug:
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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4. Autozone sells most of the same brands of parts that all the others do.
not anymore, almost all of their parts are now Duralast or Valucrap, they will all be labeled that way soon. Don't ask how I know
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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not anymore, almost all of their parts are now Duralast or Valucrap, they will all be labeled that way soon. Don't ask how I know
yea they just list the part#s of their other stuff on there. i was getting my 5.5gen brake rotors and it was valucraft... and listed raybestos and bendix part numbers on the box 'for reference'
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Everyone say it with me..Re-box
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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They still sell MOOG ball joints and suspension parts. That and fluids are about all I buy there.
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Everyone say it with me..Re-box
so... you are saying that the 'valucraft' rotors i have on my car may actually be bendix-made? or raybestos-made? they could make more money selling it under the 'brand name' tho.. maybe
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No. He's saying your "Bendix" rotors are possibly valucraft with a bendix part # stamped on the box.
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No. He's saying your "Bendix" rotors are possibly valucraft with a bendix part # stamped on the box.
oh. the box said valucraft very plainly, then listed several other companies' part numbers in smaller print the corner... i guess to be like "equivalent to these parts" or something. but for the ones i got they were like uh.. $40-45 each i think
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They still sell MOOG ball joints and suspension parts. That and fluids are about all I buy there.
since when?
AZ here doesn't have moog.

as far as their reboxing goes, they buy from whomever is cheapest and rebox that, so there is no guarantee of what is in the box.

the valucraft rotors are actually sourced from a warehouse local to me, and they are cheap chinese rotors just like anyone else's cheap rotor. As far as them being the same as a bendix rotor, to me they may be made different, but they still function the same and last the same. there is no difference in 99% of the rotors for most uses.
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For most uses, no. For the average DD, the AZ rotors are just fine.

For a car that's going to see track use, I'd be a bit more wary... Then again, the local spec Miata guys use them. They buy 3-4 sets and mill them down to the minimum thickness (to save 2 oz of unsprung rotating weight), then throw them away after each race.

Looking at AZ's website, they don't seem to have the MOOG stuff for Maximas anymore. Last time I bought anything from them, I was buying bushings for a Ford and they were Moog. :shrug:

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Didnt think my post would turn into all this... and why did i have to be called a "n00blet guy" lmao
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Didnt think my post would turn into all this... and why did i have to be called a "n00blet guy" lmao
hah i dunno you've got 3 maximas don't you?

anyhow... is it all put back together and running now?
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Didnt think my post would turn into all this... and why did i have to be called a "n00blet guy" lmao
How long have you been around?
YER ALL N00BS COMPARED TO MEEE!

But if you're asking questions like this and have 75 posts, you're still a n00blet in the grand scheme of things. Don't take offense to it man- it's only a name.
Old Dec 12, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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No harm done.. and yes its back on the road, now i can put the z up and get some stuff done to it...
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