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Old Nov 14, 2001 | 10:22 AM
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Tockico and eibachs

I just got my car back from a shop that i paid to put on my struts and springs and i want to know i can do to make sure that everything was put on. I know i can get under there and look and i can tell its lowered but what about the back ones? It looks sweet but i spent so much that i want to make sure it was done right. I picked it up on my lunchbreak so i haven't really had to check everything out. I just want to know what to look at when i get home.
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 10:29 AM
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If the car is lower, it's got the Eibachs or look for clean new springs. If the struts are new and blue color, you got the Tokicos.
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 11:05 AM
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Re: Tockico and eibachs

also you shoulda asked for the old parts back...then you would know
Old Nov 14, 2001 | 11:37 AM
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I'll be goin by in a few to pick up my oem parts. I appreciate it fellas.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Howz da Ride?

Hey I was thinking about purchasing the same Eibach and tokico setup you have. Can you tell me if the ride is better than the stock setup?
I have a 91se.

Is it a semi-smooth ride or a noticeably rough ride. Try your best to describe the feel.

BTW how much did they charge for labor?


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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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Fronts are easy, if your struts are blue, they're on. The Eibach springs are labelled on the springs themselves. The rear struts are a bit harder since the new strut resides inside of the strut housing and you can't see it. Your best bet is to look through the spring at a large skinny nut right where the shiny shaft goes into the housing.
If that is shiny and new looking, then they have replaced it. Also, try to push down on your rear quarter panel and see how much resistance there is. Tokicos are pretty hard to push down.
Old Aug 7, 2002 | 09:28 AM
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Re: Howz da Ride?

Originally posted by maxipriest
Hey I was thinking about purchasing the same Eibach and tokico setup you have. Can you tell me if the ride is better than the stock setup?
I have a 91se.

Is it a semi-smooth ride or a noticeably rough ride. Try your best to describe the feel.

BTW how much did they charge for labor?


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I also have the eibach and tokico set up and yes, at first the ride seems a little hard.Your handling is 100% better. you will have very little body roll. but when the suspension settles and is broken in. the ride is like, whoa! it great!!!
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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maxipriest, if you're still looking to get Tokicos and Eibachs, I'm selling my brand new ones.

Check out the post if you're interested.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=148847

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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 05:28 PM
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I have the tocks and eibach springs and I'm very happy.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Not yet happy with KYB/Eibach

Just for future reference for those searching for reviews, I have KYB/Eibach with ST sways. The handling is improved but not great. Ride is smooth, but you get less travel as the progressive part of the Eibach is used up. This is totally acceptable for everyday driving.

My complaint is the KYBs do not seem to provide enough damping for these springs. They absorb bumps smoothly, but the rebound is not controlled enough, and you can get a little light at times. This is a bit unnerving if it happens in the middle of a turn when you're pushing it a bit.

I also get a lot of vibration and movement on rough pavement. Sounds like Tokico's may be a better match, with a tradeoff in ride. I'm either going to try those or SFCs. Also have to check out for worn suspension components.

YMMV
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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yes i also want to know what labor was. also how much did you pay fer the toks?
Old Sep 4, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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I got my tokico's and Eibach springs shipped for $480.00
Old Oct 24, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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shox.com

Ok, I'm really interested in getting some tokicos and eibachs soon. I saw a post saying shox.com had great prices and they quoted me for $289 for the tokicos, $199 for the eibachs, and $34 for shipping which works to $522. Where'd you get them both for $480? Are they eibach prokit's? And how much was the labor to slap those babies on?
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 06:19 AM
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Re: Not yet happy with KYB/Eibach

Originally posted by gavski
Just for future reference for those searching for reviews, I have KYB/Eibach with ST sways. The handling is improved but not great. Ride is smooth, but you get less travel as the progressive part of the Eibach is used up. This is totally acceptable for everyday driving.

My complaint is the KYBs do not seem to provide enough damping for these springs. They absorb bumps smoothly, but the rebound is not controlled enough, and you can get a little light at times. This is a bit unnerving if it happens in the middle of a turn when you're pushing it a bit.

I also get a lot of vibration and movement on rough pavement. Sounds like Tokico's may be a better match, with a tradeoff in ride. I'm either going to try those or SFCs. Also have to check out for worn suspension components.

YMMV
yeah, you definitely shouldn't have gone with the KYBs if you got Eibachs. KYBs would be fine for any other spring, but the not the Eibachs. You should get some Toks for the rear and gut the front KYBs and put in Koni inserts...
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Re: Re: Not yet happy with KYB/Eibach

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yeah, you definitely shouldn't have gone with the KYBs if you got Eibachs. KYBs would be fine for any other spring, but the not the Eibachs. You should get some Toks for the rear and gut the front KYBs and put in Koni inserts...
That's a good idea..never dawned on me to mix and match..save a few bucks too. But why adjustable fronts and not rears?
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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That's a good idea..never dawned on me to mix and match..save a few bucks too. But why adjustable fronts and not rears?
To compensate for engine weight/spring rate differences. ??

Braking in to a turn, your front end dives. Launching from the line, your front end jumps. At the apex of a turn, the outside of the front end dips...
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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To compensate for engine weight/spring rate differences. ??

Braking in to a turn, your front end dives. Launching from the line, your front end jumps. At the apex of a turn, the outside of the front end dips...
So it's more iimportant to fine tune the front than the rear? I realize a stiffer rear setup offsets FWD tendancy to understeer. I wish there were some easliy adjustable struts out there for us..the KONI setup looks like a real PITA to adjust. Why couldn't e just canabalize the externally adjustable ones for a later model Max?
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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So it's more iimportant to fine tune the front than the rear? I realize a stiffer rear setup offsets FWD tendancy to understeer. I wish there were some easliy adjustable struts out there for us..the KONI setup looks like a real PITA to adjust. Why couldn't e just canabalize the externally adjustable ones for a later model Max?
4 words: electronically controlled damping system...
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not yet happy with KYB/Eibach

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4 words: electronically controlled damping system...

Who makes that.. I know it came stock on some models, but are there performance struts that work with it?
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Who makes that.. I know it came stock on some models, but are there performance struts that work with it?
I meant to say externally, but there is a company that makes externally adjustable electronic damping systems, and they'll make them fit any application. That's serious cash, though
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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I meant to say externally, but there is a company that makes externally adjustable electronic damping systems, and they'll make them fit any application. That's serious cash, though
Hmmmmmm...what's the name.?
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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Hmmmmmm...what's the name.?
Crap. I can't remember and the catalog I saw them in is at home. I wouldn't be able to tell you until Monday, either, but if you haven't found out by then and this thread is still alive I'll let you know
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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Crap. I can't remember and the catalog I saw them in is at home. I wouldn't be able to tell you until Monday, either, but if you haven't found out by then and this thread is still alive I'll let you know
Thanks man.
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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Who makes that.. I know it came stock on some models, but are there performance struts that work with it?
There are Tokicos that are electronicly adjustable. I found them when I was looking for replacements for my 89. I ended up using standard KYB's. The big money is going to my 92 this winter.
Old Oct 25, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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There are Tokicos that are electronicly adjustable. I found them when I was looking for replacements for my 89. I ended up using standard KYB's. The big money is going to my 92 this winter.
The only adjustable Tokicos I know of are the golds, and they aren't electronic. They are like the KYB AGXs, and like the AGXs they don't make them for our cars but they can be fitted if you want to spend the money. If you're going to spend that kinda cash, though, why not go with some electronic ones that are adjustable from inside the car via electronic controls on the dash?? For the Subarus, they have electronic coil-overs that are adjustable from inside the car. You can adjust ride height, spring rate, damping and rebound, all without getting outside the car. Pretty damn cool!!
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