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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Need help: cannot pull back ****

So I need help. You know how you press on the brakes and it clicks to release so that you can pull to reverse or drive? I can't pull back anymore. When I press on the brakes it no longer clicks for me to be able to pull back on the ****. I had to manually push the red button to manually pull back. Can someone tell me how to fix this? Your input will be appreciated.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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your shift lock thing is acting up. check the fuses (top right), see if it's good. then check the harness thing, see if it's getting signal from pushing the brakes,.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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yeah i would say check the fuse too, hopefully its just the fuse and not wiring

and this is a fresh thread and theres a crapload of guests viewing it
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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IS it possible that it's not able to pull back because my brake light is out?
Jw cuz my friend said sometimes that happens
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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if the bulb is out i cant see that affecting anything, unless maybe the bulb burning out blew a fuse?
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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if your brake lights work, then it's usually either the solenoid underneath the shifter itself, or the green box in the passenger side kick panel. the green box itself makes a click (at least mine did, after i'd done my 5spd swap but left the box installed), independently of the shifter solenoid... so go stick your ear right up against the box while someone pushes the brake pedal to see if it makes noise or not. if it does, then it's probably the shifter solenoid. if not, it's probably the box.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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yea mine use to click. I check my fuse, im pretty positive its not the fuse cuz i looked at it theres no breakage in between. so its mite be what you said cadaver. yea it no longer clicks i gotta check in the day tmr. thank god for the red manual button lol
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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not to get offtopic but how does the button work exactly? i actually never knew about it until my shifter bushing fully went and i couldnt start the car, and my Max was stuck in the garage and my brake pedal locked from pressing on it so i couldnt get it into neutral to roll out to tow, AMA put sliders under it and when he towed it out he said "you do know you have the shift override button right?". but the good thing was dragging it out got the bushing good enough to allow it to start so he didnt charge it as a tow

but you dont need to use the brake with the override button? thats what the AMA guy said, what about if you were to use the override on a hill?
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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all the 'red button' does is manually push the electronic solenoid, which moves a lever or something out of the way so you can push the button in. the park lock itself is not mechanically necessary.. it's just something car companies added (whether mandatory or voluntarily) to keep people from "accidentally" hitting something cuz they were too stupid to hold the brake down before taking the car out of park. The tranny itself could give two shiits less whether the park lock actually works, and some older cars don't even have it.

Just like the clutch-safety-start switch on m/t cars.. to keep you from "accidentally" hitting something by starting the car in gear.


anyways, stwodahorty... the clicking you are used to hearing comes from the shifter itself. obviously that's not happening anymore. the clicking i'm talking about comes from the passenger side kick panel, not the shifter. normally when the park lock is working properly, the click from underneath the shifter is so loud that you'll never even hear the other click. but after my car was manual, there was no more a/t shifter, so the only click to be heard was from the green box, which makes a much much quieter click.


if i remember, tomorrow i'll take some pictures for you mfkrs to demonstrate how the park lock mechanism actually works, and what the emergency override does, since my old a/t shifter is still sitting in a box somewhere.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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definately what cadaver said haha. i usually use it when im working on my head unit. cuz the **** is in the way. so use the red button to manually pull all the way back, so i have space.
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Originally Posted by CapedCadaver

if i remember, tomorrow i'll take some pictures for you mfkrs to demonstrate how the park lock mechanism actually works, and what the emergency override does, since my old a/t shifter is still sitting in a box somewhere.
would really appreciate that.
Old Apr 11, 2010 | 11:59 PM
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definately what cadaver said haha. i usually use it when im working on my head unit. cuz the **** is in the way. so use the red button to manually pull all the way back, so i have space.
well i meant a small lever down underneath the shifter moving out of the way, but i guess what you said works too
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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well i kinda get it, i saw a junkard 3rd gens shifter and it has the metal gate, and when you push the black big **** in the pin moves above the gate allowing you to shift, so essentially the red override is just moving the pin?

and with "the park lock itself is not mechanically necessary.. it's just something car companies added (whether mandatory or voluntarily) to keep people from "accidentally" hitting something cuz they were too stupid to hold the brake down before taking the car out of park. The tranny itself could give two shiits less whether the park lock actually works, and some older cars don't even have it."

youre saying that you dont really even need the black button, and older cars didnt use them? theyre just for women who dont know how to drive? i know newer automatics like 7th gens use the gate on top so you dont need a button

i need a "the more you know" flashing up in this thread, im learning alot lmao
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and saving someone the effort, i know "big black ****" in the previous post can be taken as something else
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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I remember my shift lock thingy used to click so much that It got on my nerves! I could be driving down the road and it just clicks and clicks for like 5 minutes. I never figured out what was causing it to do that. I knew it was something that had to do with the shift lever, but I never know what to even look for or to replace.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stwodahorty
would really appreciate that.
Me Too. I'm having the same problem but it happens occasionally.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by maxinout93
I remember my shift lock thingy used to click so much that It got on my nerves! I could be driving down the road and it just clicks and clicks for like 5 minutes. I never figured out what was causing it to do that. I knew it was something that had to do with the shift lever, but I never know what to even look for or to replace.
thats weird, it should only click when you press on the brakes so it releases to pull back.
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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so i opened the kickerpanel to check if the greenbox clicks too, it no longer clicks, and the fuse is still good, so is it the green box?
Old Apr 12, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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so i opened the kickerpanel to check if the greenbox clicks too, it no longer clicks, and the fuse is still good, so is it the green box?
most likely. there's a procedure in the FSM that tells you what wires to test to make sure it's not a wiring problem, which is also possible. but my guess would be the green box, as that's what my problem was in 2007.

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well i kinda get it, i saw a junkard 3rd gens shifter and it has the metal gate, and when you push the black big **** in the pin moves above the gate allowing you to shift, so essentially the red override is just moving the pin?

and with "the park lock itself is not mechanically necessary.. it's just something car companies added (whether mandatory or voluntarily) to keep people from "accidentally" hitting something cuz they were too stupid to hold the brake down before taking the car out of park. The tranny itself could give two shiits less whether the park lock actually works, and some older cars don't even have it."

youre saying that you dont really even need the black button, and older cars didnt use them? theyre just for women who dont know how to drive? i know newer automatics like 7th gens use the gate on top so you dont need a button

i need a "the more you know" flashing up in this thread, im learning alot lmao
yeah, the whole purpose of all that crap is so that the driver must "engage in conscious thought" before putting the car into gear... ie, so they can't just accidentally smack it with their arm when adjusting their seatbelt or something. the car will work just fine without it, mechanically speaking, but, of course, then there's a risk of you as a driver (or your passenger) doing something on accident that could cause, well, an accident.
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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would the best thing to do be swapping it out with another one?
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Stwodahorty
would the best thing to do be swapping it out with another one?
yea they should be pretty cheap i think. i hav eone.. someone else said they wanted it but haven't heard back from them in a few weeks abotu it.
Old Apr 13, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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yea they should be pretty cheap i think. i hav eone.. someone else said they wanted it but haven't heard back from them in a few weeks abotu it.
how much do you want for it?
My dad opened it up today, turns out the transistor inside is busted, either that or the IC. it had started clicking when he was checking if it was getting power. so its definitely the green box. Let me know if you wanna sell it.
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