personally ive never heard of BG 44K. I have tried seafoam though! In my opinion seafoam works great. My Max has 232,000 miles, and I tried sea foam in the intake, valve cover, and gas tank. It greatly improved my idle and basically cleaned my intake really good. throttle response is also great as well as mpg now.

 

i thought seafoam was thru the fuel tank then in the engine and then the brake booster hose

i never heard of bg 44k till last night and i guess no one has either cuz this thread has 71 views and no one is saying shet

 

Yes it is thru the fuel tank, but not the brake booster hose. You have to add a little at a time. The brake booster has too much vaccuum and you may end up drowning the engine. I used it in the small intake hose near the water valve by the distributor, and then in the crank case.

 

im still wondering which one actually works?

how do u exactly use either one?
pics will help a lot in where to put either one of these in (i dont wonna fawk anything up)

im thinking of switching to synthetic oil on my next oil change so i was wondering if using any of these will help before i do that or not.

 

This question is better suited posted in the General Maxima Discussion section.

I havent heard of BG44k until a couple of months ago reading through the forums also. Im interested in knowing which of these products is more effective as well....

 

IIRC Matt has always championed BG 44K.

Although I think this is slightly apples and oranges. Seafoam is normally used to clean out sooty deposits in the intake and whatnot. I believe BG is usually mainly for cleaning out the fuel system. I think when I've heard Matt mention it it's always in reference to attempting to clean sticky injectors

 

^ interesting. Didnt know that. Will have to do a bit of research myself.

 

so....coming from the integra world, i'm use to seeing/hearing of using the brake booster line (1/2 can) to use, and NOT through the oil fill hole and then the other half in the gas tank. i've also heard, and i'm 99% certain that there was a youtube vid of a 6th gen maxima owner who showed how to use seafoam via brake booster line. now this thread mentions NOT to use the brake booster line...

 

i just found a shop that sells bg 44k for $25 a can.
im going to buy it and do it after my switch to synthetic oil cause i wonna see the difference in the oil switch first. then ill put the bg 44k in and see the difference in that cause i have two bad injectors that lucas or b-12 cant fix. if bg 4kk doesnt work to unclog or unstick my two bad injectors im going to have to jus replace the 2 injectors.

 

Ohh wee...pricey. That was one of he debates between the two that I remember reading about. $25 for BG44k as opposed to $6 for Seafoam....the potency of each product will be the determining factor...

 

i seen this too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MA_ghUsuVE

 

I like to use the Deep Creep stuff (stronger spray can form of Seafoam). It's easier to use and I've never had any problems with it. It's also $15 cheaper than that BG-44K stuff which I've never used.

 

im going to buy the bg 44k this weekend and try it out just to unstick my injectors. i was reading sefoam works better to clean up the engine when you put it in the oil but you need to get an oil change like an hour after you poured seafoam in the engine. so far i've read that bg 44k works way better in the fuel tank than seafoam does.

 

how do you use this and what does it do?
i never heard of this

 

I didn't really read this thread thoroughly, and I don't know who said to NOT use Seafoam through the brake booster line, but that is false..

 

yea thats the one

 

I may opt against using Seafoam in my oil because I have a slight rear main seal leak. May do a 50/50 through the gas tank and IM.

 

You use it the exact same way you use Seafoam, but instead of tryingto pour it in you spray away. I put it in the gas to clean out the fuel system and into the brake booster to clean the intake. If you've never used it in the oil, don't start now.

 

^ Researching it now...

 

See Matt's responses in these threads:

http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...injectors.html

http://forums.maxima.org/3rd-generat...624900-so.html

 

i'm curious though...when using seafoam (dont know if you WOULD USE BG 44K in teh brake booster line as well or not) but, what ELSE does it clean if pouring through the tank goes through the injectors/top end and what not *scratches head*

 

I don't really know what exactly you said/asked there. I re-read it twice and still don't really comprehend it

 

there are about 4 issues being discussed here.. I'll clarify...

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the BG 44k is a fuel system cleaner. i.e. fuel additive. dump it in your tank and fill the car up and drive. it has lots of chemicals in it that break up the gunk in your injectors and cause them to have a better spray pattern. This assumes your injectors are clogged with dirty fuel gunk, NOT electrically failed.. Our injectors are known to do both.

Seafoam can be used this way too, but BG 44k is MUCH more effective than Seafoam in this regard.
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Seafoam can also be used to clean the slime off the inside of your intake manifold by sucking it through the brake booster (or any other vacuum hose) while the engine is running. it gets sucked in in a mist and sticks to the sides of the manifold. it softens the crap up, which then gets sucked into the engine and burned.

the issue on the VE and VG is that the brake booster hose goes to the middle of the manifold so it really only cleans 3 maybe 4 cylinders.. you also run the risk of sucking up too much fluid at once using the brkae booster hose and hydrolocking the engine. I did that to a customers VG once and got to buy the guy another engine cause I screwed it up. ouch. 6 days of work for free.

if you use a smaller vacuum line that's located right behind the TB, you run zero risk of doing that kind of damage to your engine and you will also clean the entire manifold out, not just the back half.

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Seafoam can ALSO be used as an oil additive to clean the crankcase. If you've been doing regular oil changes with anything other than tar, this is a non-issue. most engines are pretty clean internally with today's modern oils and 3,000 mile change intervals. If they're not, this stuff really isn't the best thing to use anyway because it'll just knock chunks of crap loose and it can get sucked into the engine and clog bearing journals and feed lines, then you have more problems than if you'd just left it alone.

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But that's just personal opinion there.. if you really want a clean engine, go for it. but 99.9% of the time, there's nothing in there that needs to be cleaned, other than the owner's peace of mind.

Personally, the only time I mess with any engine cleaning solvents like that is during an engine overhaul or if I have a car that's running rough and I use an in-tank cleaner to clean the injectors. that's it. no point in cleaning a crankcase or an intake manifold because they're doing the job just fine as-is.

 

*edit* Matt FTW lol



MORAL OF THIS THREAD: use BG 44K as cleaning the crankcase/intake is overkill..amirite? Is it 'necessary' to clean the IM via Seafoam?

 

punctuation FTW

 

Hmm.. didn't know this. When I Seafoamed my old VE I did it right through the brake booster hose with no issues. Of course, I didn't fully submerge the line and was careful to not let it suck up more than a bit at a time.

On my blue VE JDM/minor rebuild, since I had to put the 5 speed IM on it, I just cleaned it all out by hand before putting it all together so it's a non-issue on that car.

 

Bruce Titus Subaru in Washington State uses all bg products BG44K is for the gas tank only. Its to clean the fuel system.

 

The problem is that it's REAL easy to slip and dunk the end of the tube into the bottle. also depending on how the car is parked (on a slope/hill), it's possible for the stuff to puddle in the hose or intake manifold and then all get sucked down at once. that's what happened on the customer's car I had. was going nice and slow and then *SLUUURP BANG! clack clack clack clack*

 

That's why I use Deep Creep. It's essentially the same **** Seafoam but in spray form and can be sprayed at any angle FTW.

 

Deep creep is $10.99+tax at my job. Also isn't a fuel tank additive. Which in turn i believe 1.08 more then just normal seafoam. Also vacuum line off the throttle body to egr area is the ideal option for IM cleansing.

 

after a week of putting in bg 44k i noticed a huge difference. my idle is better, car runs wayyyyy better on cold start and my gas is lasting more now. i recommend this to anyone. its $25 a bottle but you get what you pay for which is a product that actually works.

 

What non online retail stores carry BG44K? Pep Boys, Autozone, etc?

 

Im believing from my knowledge of working dealership that dealership carries it as for who else research online on BG'S website about were to find there products.

 

Ima try the Seafoam this weekend............

 

There website has a store locator. Enter your zip and radius and you're all set.

Just did a google myself on the BG44K. Many mixed reviews. I've seafoamed my intake, gas tank, and engine (oil) before and noticed some nice results immediately after. In fact, I had my car in the shop a few weeks after I seafoamed and the mechanic didn't believe that I had no changed my spark plugs. He said they looked brand new. My car had just under 100K miles on it at the time.

I'll probably be doing a seafoam again this weekend with some other maintenance items as I had good results before. For me the jury is still out on BG44K

 

I went to the bg website and put in my zip code and it showed me a bunch of shops over here that have it.

I was kind of worried it would do sumthing wrong to the but I took a shot at it and its working so i would reccomend it. iits improved my milage and idle and like I mentioned its better on cold starts now.
its $25 but its worth buying.

 

I went to the bg website and put in my zip code and it showed me a bunch of shops over here that have it.

I was kind of worried it would do sumthing wrong to the but I took a shot at it and its working so i would reccomend it. iits improved my milage and idle and like I mentioned its better on cold starts now.
its $25 but its worth buying.

 

Just my opinion here, but I wouldn't switch to syn oil. Not on a car with miles anyway. It can cause more problems then it helps.

 

But true.