3rd Gen rear strut tower bar retrofitment
12-18-2001, 05:28 PM
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3rd Gen rear strut tower bar retrofitment
New to this forum but I was hoping to get some info about the possibility of retrofitting a rear strut tower bar from another car or a later Model Maxima to my 94 SE 5sd. (I will be installing an Addco RSB and Warpspeed's Frame Upgrade as soon as the parts get here) I have not been able to find one that was specific to my car and so I assume that only the front bar was made but I just thought I'd just pick you guys' brain's for some ingenuity.
12-18-2001, 05:39 PM
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It's been done. I know Scott (FAST4EN....I think is his user name here) had one on his old third gen, but he had to remove the back seat. There's not really any room back there to work with it, however, anything can be done with time, patience, and money. And most people would tell you that there's really no need for a RSTB anyway....
12-18-2001, 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by James92SE
It's been done. I know Scott (FAST4EN....I think is his user name here) had one on his old third gen, but he had to remove the back seat.
It's been done. I know Scott (FAST4EN....I think is his user name here) had one on his old third gen, but he had to remove the back seat.
12-18-2001, 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by HoJo
Didn't he say that he couldn't tell if it made a difference?
Didn't he say that he couldn't tell if it made a difference?
whoops.....forgot about that!
12-19-2001, 10:34 AM
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Thanks for the info and feedback guys. I live in the mountains and plan on getting the car involved in SCCA like my old GTI after I upgrade the suspension some more so there is actually some rhyme to my reason beyond what I could put in a sig.......
12-19-2001, 10:36 AM
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Thanks for the info and feedback guys. I live in the mountains and plan on getting the car involved in SCCA like my old GTI after I upgrade the suspension some more so there is actually some rhyme to my reason beyond what I could put in a sig.......
Thanks for the info and feedback guys. I live in the mountains and plan on getting the car involved in SCCA like my old GTI after I upgrade the suspension some more so there is actually some rhyme to my reason beyond what I could put in a sig.......
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12-19-2001, 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Nismo4DSC
New to this forum but I was hoping to get some info about the possibility of retrofitting a rear strut tower bar from another car or a later Model Maxima to my 94 SE 5sd. (I will be installing an Addco RSB and Warpspeed's Frame Upgrade as soon as the parts get here) I have not been able to find one that was specific to my car and so I assume that only the front bar was made but I just thought I'd just pick you guys' brain's for some ingenuity.
New to this forum but I was hoping to get some info about the possibility of retrofitting a rear strut tower bar from another car or a later Model Maxima to my 94 SE 5sd. (I will be installing an Addco RSB and Warpspeed's Frame Upgrade as soon as the parts get here) I have not been able to find one that was specific to my car and so I assume that only the front bar was made but I just thought I'd just pick you guys' brain's for some ingenuity.
12-19-2001, 01:13 PM
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For the 1st gen altimas, u can buy a fstb off ebay for $30 shipped. Then drill new holes in the mounting bracket to fit the rear strut towers. It does fit behind the seat cushion and below the deck piece.
Also, RandomThoughts makes a rear strut tower brace. MrNismo has seen it in my car and can probably describe it better than I can. Basically, it's a shower-curtain-like bar that expands the strut housing. You put it in from the trunk. I notice a slight improvement with less oversteer (car oversteers like crazy right now).
Jay
Also, RandomThoughts makes a rear strut tower brace. MrNismo has seen it in my car and can probably describe it better than I can. Basically, it's a shower-curtain-like bar that expands the strut housing. You put it in from the trunk. I notice a slight improvement with less oversteer (car oversteers like crazy right now).
Jay
12-20-2001, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
For the 1st gen altimas, u can buy a fstb off ebay for $30 shipped. Then drill new holes in the mounting bracket to fit the rear strut towers. It does fit behind the seat cushion and below the deck piece.
Also, RandomThoughts makes a rear strut tower brace. MrNismo has seen it in my car and can probably describe it better than I can. Basically, it's a shower-curtain-like bar that expands the strut housing. You put it in from the trunk. I notice a slight improvement with less oversteer (car oversteers like crazy right now).
Jay
For the 1st gen altimas, u can buy a fstb off ebay for $30 shipped. Then drill new holes in the mounting bracket to fit the rear strut towers. It does fit behind the seat cushion and below the deck piece.
Also, RandomThoughts makes a rear strut tower brace. MrNismo has seen it in my car and can probably describe it better than I can. Basically, it's a shower-curtain-like bar that expands the strut housing. You put it in from the trunk. I notice a slight improvement with less oversteer (car oversteers like crazy right now).
Jay
12-20-2001, 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
Basically, it's a shower-curtain-like bar that expands the strut housing. You put it in from the trunk. I notice a slight improvement with less oversteer (car oversteers like crazy right now).
Jay
Basically, it's a shower-curtain-like bar that expands the strut housing. You put it in from the trunk. I notice a slight improvement with less oversteer (car oversteers like crazy right now).
Jay
12-22-2001, 04:03 PM
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DaBoxGTI: thanx dood.
HoJo: I dunno how much it expands, but can't be that much. Also, it just made oversteer worse...I have too much even w/o that bar. The RSB's set for oversteer right now and I think it helps too much. I'm gonna try the rsb in understeer w/the Random Thoughts Racing strut tower brace...maybe it'll make it neutral.
Jay
HoJo: I dunno how much it expands, but can't be that much. Also, it just made oversteer worse...I have too much even w/o that bar. The RSB's set for oversteer right now and I think it helps too much. I'm gonna try the rsb in understeer w/the Random Thoughts Racing strut tower brace...maybe it'll make it neutral.
Jay
12-22-2001, 06:39 PM
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yeah. i totally wasn't expecting oversteer like I have right now. I hafta be ultra smooth on braking and accelerating now or risk throwing the rear around.
A person asked me, is drifting still called drifting in a fwd car? He suggested that it's called powersliding. I hafta say that powersliding does sound more accurate cuz the front wheels are dragging the rest of the car, vs drifting cuz drifting is the rear wheels spinning pretty fast and creating very little friction, allowing the rear to swing around.
Jay
A person asked me, is drifting still called drifting in a fwd car? He suggested that it's called powersliding. I hafta say that powersliding does sound more accurate cuz the front wheels are dragging the rest of the car, vs drifting cuz drifting is the rear wheels spinning pretty fast and creating very little friction, allowing the rear to swing around.
Jay
12-22-2001, 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
DaBoxGTI: thanx dood.
HoJo: I dunno how much it expands, but can't be that much. Also, it just made oversteer worse...I have too much even w/o that bar. The RSB's set for oversteer right now and I think it helps too much. I'm gonna try the rsb in understeer w/the Random Thoughts Racing strut tower brace...maybe it'll make it neutral.
Jay
DaBoxGTI: thanx dood.
HoJo: I dunno how much it expands, but can't be that much. Also, it just made oversteer worse...I have too much even w/o that bar. The RSB's set for oversteer right now and I think it helps too much. I'm gonna try the rsb in understeer w/the Random Thoughts Racing strut tower brace...maybe it'll make it neutral.
Jay
Also don't know if you've got a lot of stereo equipment in the trunk, but apparently adding weight in the rear increases oversteer (this sounded counter-intuitive to me, but I suppose it has to do with weight transfer/distrubution).
12-23-2001, 01:24 AM
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suspension tech rsb. there's 2 notches on the ends (where the brackets would normally go on a 4th gen max). u can read about the effects here http://www.se-r.net/car_info/suspens...r%20suspension
No, no audio stuff. I believe u though. I remember a few years back about a 4th gen putting sand bags in his trunk; and another story about a 3rd gen guy who was moving into his dorm and had 2 45lb weights behind the front seats.
Jay
No, no audio stuff. I believe u though. I remember a few years back about a 4th gen putting sand bags in his trunk; and another story about a 3rd gen guy who was moving into his dorm and had 2 45lb weights behind the front seats.
Jay
12-23-2001, 12:36 PM
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That's pretty wild that they even make 1.125 and 1" sways for the SE-R!! I suppose they need the huge rear sway though, because there's so much more weight on the front.
So I guess you "unofficially" used these extra holes on the RSB? (I'm guessing they're not there for adjustability) How much closer into the bar are they? Also, I was always under the impression that 4th Gens used a different design bar...
So I guess you "unofficially" used these extra holes on the RSB? (I'm guessing they're not there for adjustability) How much closer into the bar are they? Also, I was always under the impression that 4th Gens used a different design bar...
12-23-2001, 05:56 PM
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it's designed w/2 holes. In the instructions, it even tells u which hole does what: 1 does oversteer, one does understeer. I have it in oversteer right now. They are ~1.5" apart. I didn't think it would make a diff but I guess it does. It'll only take 10min to switch holes, so I'll do it.
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12-23-2001, 11:10 PM
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Ahh, very cool! Do you have the FSB too? I'm just wondering because I was debating this whole "Addco RSB only or ST kit" thing. I'm wondering if you have the FSB then does it make so much diff. that it STILL oversteers...
12-24-2001, 12:37 PM
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you're refering to front sway bar right? no, I don't have it nor will I get one right now. The only one available is from Australia. After the cost of shipping, it comes out to be $250. It's marginally thicker than the stock sway bar, maybe 3mm. The person who tried it (he went to aust for his honeymoon, looked at it, and bought one to ship home) said the improvement was minimal and the fit wasn't direct (made for bluebird).
Jay
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12-24-2001, 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
The only one available is from Australia. After the cost of shipping, it comes out to be $250. It's marginally thicker than the stock sway bar, maybe 3mm.
Jay
The only one available is from Australia. After the cost of shipping, it comes out to be $250. It's marginally thicker than the stock sway bar, maybe 3mm.
Jay
my car is finally coming together!
12-24-2001, 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
you're refering to front sway bar right? no, I don't have it nor will I get one right now. The only one available is from Australia. After the cost of shipping, it comes out to be $250. It's marginally thicker than the stock sway bar, maybe 3mm. The person who tried it (he went to aust for his honeymoon, looked at it, and bought one to ship home) said the improvement was minimal and the fit wasn't direct (made for bluebird).
Jay
you're refering to front sway bar right? no, I don't have it nor will I get one right now. The only one available is from Australia. After the cost of shipping, it comes out to be $250. It's marginally thicker than the stock sway bar, maybe 3mm. The person who tried it (he went to aust for his honeymoon, looked at it, and bought one to ship home) said the improvement was minimal and the fit wasn't direct (made for bluebird).
Jay
12-26-2001, 01:28 PM
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well, not all bluebird stuff fits on our altimas, so that's probably one of them. Maybe they did screw him over, dunno. but for the price, I'd probably say no right now. That'd be the most expensive suspension mod yet for me.
Jay
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