Sometimes putting new eyes on something and looking from outside the box or a different corner within the box...can stumble across something that may have been overlooked , overthought, or just missed.....I say try it...If it blows up in Deadfall's face he at least tried something diffferent.....regardless of the forewarnings...sometimes there's ways to do things the haven't been tried and sometimes people want to learn the hard way.....IMO!

 

i didn't mean GRM by name... moreso not-so-named magazines for hardcore grassroots racers

it's just that so many people see those terms, have no idea wtf they're even supposed to mean, and assume that "i don't know what they are" also means "they probably aren't that important anyways"

 

Another ricer forum? maybe some of those shops listed as sponsors have the abilities..... If they turn out shiny cars that go to car shows or they drag race Hondas, then no, they probably won't do the work.
If they specialize in road racing or hot rods with custom suspensions, then they can possibly help you out.

 

The question is, would you be better off after all the extensive mods to make coilover work or not? ie.. would the car handle better than a well set up traditional spring/koni/swaybar/rear camber mod/poly bushing/alignment setup

 

where can i get koni's... i cant find them i have poly bushings & sway bars. whats the rear camber mod? im not getting an alignment yet b/c the cars jumps all over the road. the only reason i really wanted to get coilovers is so i could adjust the stiffness and ride height, so i could not die on the street and be good on the track...

why is everyone so against coil over setup for our cars?

 

Are intrax springs not stiff enough? I dont know, my friend doesnt really have any body roll. Just get your hands on some front and rear ST sways, Matt's RSTB and FSTB.. Maybe he still has a few of his hardcore suspension items still available. I dont see how you could go wrong with all that at the track.

 

after the mods to make the coilover fit, probably not. after all the mods me and matt93se were talking about to fix the wonky geometry when dropped, yes.

 

yeah Koni or Tokico and good springs are best, both of those struts are discontinued though so good luck even finding a used set.

im just on KYB GR2 and Ksport GT springs, ive hit sharp turns at the track going 120+km/h with no bodyroll. still comfy enough for me to go on the street as long as you dont hit potholes obviously. ive heard Ksport GT's are impossible to find now too

 

I have a front strut bar, tokico's and sprint springs, suspension teqnique front and rear sway bars, there is still body roll... So I need to either A. Find new springs and struts/shox... Or go Coilovers. The reason I want coil overs is so I can have all new parts not my 40k stuff I have now. And I want the added stiffness... I'm not wanting to slam the max to the ground, I just want it with little wheel gap, and to be alot more stiff.
I know there is alot of things to expect to be a pain, but I just want to have more then I do now, and since finding the parts aren't available I want to do something

 

I'm not against them at all. I run them on my 240.
I've tried to make them work on a 3Gen. Others have too.
1. There's just nothing "off the shelf" that will work properly on a car with our suspension geometry.
2. It has a really short strut so by the time you lower the car, you're out of suspension travel.
3. Coilovers are *generally* not designed for a street car. They don't quite build them robust enough for daily driving on harsh roads. They're much more high maintenance than an OEM install-and-forget spring and strut with dust boots and all that.
4. with our chassis (95% of cars out there really), you can't just adjust ride height *****-nilly. Every time you change the ride height, you change camber and toe curves and you need to realign the car after each ride height change.

I could go on, but I think you've got the point.

 

this is such a pain in the butt to get stuff to work right... i shall over come the inevitable of this project... soon enough ill get it, if i have to change every single suspension component out, i will get this to work... my car already has about 30-40k into it... whats another 4...

 

I couldnt agree more. This is more then 95% of cars though...its all cars.

Changing ride height, oversided tires, different offset wheels, and other things change alignments. Every time you adjust any of them, you need to align the car.

Struts have a "sweet spot", and when you lower the car you take the struts out of their sweet spot