I'm still scratching my head, do you see what I see?



Do you see what I see?

Did I already say that?

Our '94 is running a Warpspeed. Money well spent IMO

 

There are several differences, you need to be more specific. That's an OEM replacement, and the WS is designed from scratch. You can get that Bosal pipe for about $60. I was close to doing just that, but decided to wait it out until I actually spring a leak from my stocker.

Don't you have a mid mounted Chevy in the back seat?

 

You've missed the point totally, that's OK.

The design of the "import" pipe seems to be worse than that of the original, just amazing to me.

A giant red flag that it is made by someone totally clueless.

With a very minor change, it could be an awesome alternative - other than the very real possibility that it is made from some really crappy metal.

You get what you pay for - sometimes less!

 

the bosal pipe is a copy of the stock design...they are just following the design that nissan put in the car.

WSP and others saw that it didn't make sense to push the exhaust back into the other bank so they flipped the merge around and hence the birth of "performance y-pipe".

you also notice that there's an extra bend at the end of the bosal unit and it will fit more or less perfectly on the car, stock.

if you see the WSP one...the bend is missing and these performance y-pipes tends to ride closer to the front sway bar and sometimes the fitment is not 100% unless you have all aftermarket exhaust parts where you can shift stuff around and still be ok.

 

WSP is still better and sounds nicer. Have had mine for a few years and no complaints.

 

The bosal pipe is a de-evolution of the stock design, IMO. If it was not so cold out, I'd make a dash to the shed and take a picture of the stock "Y".

At least the stock pipe does not blatantly send the exhaust from each bank directly at one another.

We're also running the WSP and no complaints here either. Excellent quality, American made, possibly the best value for the money.

But, if you are in a bind and low on cash, the bosal is there, and it is better than nothing.

 

trust me...i know what it looks like.
i was one of the first buyer of the cattman y-pipes...it was a bad prototype to say the least.

bosal tried..LOL i mean they are trying to copy the stock one but they are not going to add in that s shaped bend to get it the same as stock.

 

If your point was to make a comparison between the Bosal and the stock Y pipe, then why were you comparing it to the Warp Speed?

Of course I totally missed your point, you never made it.

 

I accept that, there are people in this world I can not relate with, nor can they relate with me, and I accept that.

You missed my point, I don't care, because one thing I've learned over the years is to focus on those I can relate with - not those I can not.

To those that did, the bosal seems to attempt to look like a performance type replacement. Even if marketed at a stock type replacement, it misses the mark in that it possibly reduces power over the stock piece.

Even the collector has the appearance of a performance piece - stolen right from so many others. Yet, bosal blew it totally -

WPS did it right, with the flow going the way the flow should be going. Common sense, once a commodity, now seemingly a rarity.

To me, it was totally obvious the bosal had the flow at the collector going in the wrong direction (not even the stock does this).

Interesting, some commonalities in that last statement and with how I take Hectic's response......



If anyone wants to know what is wrong with the world today, take another look at the bosal pipe. If you have the chance to make something, make it as good or better - not worse - than the original. Warpspeed did it right, bosal did it poorly, to be nice about it.



The reversed collector, that was the point. I know, it went over the head of some, maybe all, that's OK.

 

bosal sees the stock piece and says ok how can we make this as cheap as we can within the space of the stock one.

WSP comes in and says...ok let's actually bring in a car and see what space we have to work with and design something better.

the difference in R&D is what you ultimately pay for.
i highly doubt bosal spent the time to get a 3rd gen in there and look at what they have to work with.

 

Your initial post was vague; "anyone see the difference, money well spent". Nowhere did you mention the stock Y pipe. If you want to talk about the "reversed collector", the Bosal is hardly different than the OEM pipe, and the Warpspeed's #1 selling point is that it eliminates those bends and restrictive joint. That's why it was designed, that's why it exists. Everyone who's ever looked into buying one knows that, you're not pointing out anything new and it's not over anyone's head.

I assumed you had noticed something a little more interesting to discuss. Again, it's a stock replacement, seems to me like you assumed that the Bosal was a knock off Warpspeed done badly, and now that you've realized it's a clone of the stock pipe you're trying to justify your thread.

But one thing's for sure, if someone's got a rusted out stock Y pipe on a daily driver, leaking exhaust gases into the engine bay and making the car an embarrassment to drive, then the Bosal pipe is quite an upgrade.

 

Well put Hectic! I actually had mine into a local custom exhaust shop and had the WPS y pipe replicated and he did quite a good job as far as im concerned and also for a little less than what it would have costed me for the WPS or cattman especially considering i live in Canada and i would have had to pay shipping and duty etc. and i do really like the difference it makes with a nice even flowing exhaust. Anyway my point is when he took my stock OEM pipe off i compared it to the bosal and it was no different than the bosal.

 

You come across as one of those people who thinks they can read minds, and that you also might not ever be wrong.

See, I can also make assumptions!



Fine, I went out in the snow to the shed, here is the stock "Y" pipe connection:

Notice how the entry of the secondary bank does not shoot the exhaust directly bass ackwards into the flow of the other bank, as the bosal system does.



Good time to say "whatever" anyway -



I guess I could cut the heat shield off, if we all was the ultimate in viewing pleasure.

Then again, better to just move on, I never intended this to become a pissing match.