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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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Guage Lights COLORS

hey, i just replaced the lights behind the Guages with RED bulb # 194 now its all RED .. LOOK GREAT!!

::NOTE:: if your going to do this little Mod (not realy a mod i dont think) buy 4 bulbs for the whole dash , i made this miske of only buying a 2 pack so now i have to go back and buy mor and do it again ..... only took me about 20 min.

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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OK here it comes...my stupid Q of the day what about W.F.G., can you change the bulbs? If so anyboy have pics?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Y would you ask that LOL

Originally posted by PATRICK94SE
OK here it comes...my stupid Q of the day what about W.F.G., can you change the bulbs? If so anyboy have pics?

I said i changed them... there are only 3 or 4 bulbs in the guage cluster.. i still have to buy another pack because i only bought 2 and thats not going to do it.. need 4
I was in my car taking pics of it and my digital camra broke (FUkin thing .. this is 2ed. time) as soon as i can i will have pics up..... that wont be for a few days soooo go DO IT it will look great dont use blue bulbs .. because the bulbs that you take out have that odd looking bulb condom in blue color .


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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by PATRICK94SE
OK here it comes...my stupid Q of the day what about W.F.G., can you change the bulbs? If so anyboy have pics?

maybe i'm just really tired (well i am really tired), but what is wfg?
maybe that's my stupid ? of the day...
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Sorry I meant White Face Guages and I was wondering about the Glow that they produce would be recreated. Also how bout the needles?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by noleafclover



maybe i'm just really tired (well i am really tired), but what is wfg?
maybe that's my stupid ? of the day...

that was going to be one of my stupid questions for the day too. I did this same thing this past weekend put in blue bulbs looks cool its extremely cheap and quick, plus you can clean the inside of the plastic cover over the gauges get the dust out.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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humm.......

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Sorry I meant White Face Guages and I was wondering about the Glow that they produce would be recreated. Also how bout the needles?
what do you mean the glow being recreated??????????
everything glows on them 3 or 4 bulbs in back of the whole system
when your doing this the lights unscrew from the back of the Guage cluster. You DO NOT take them out by pulling the face of the guage off.
- for the ppl that dont take there dash apart once a week ........... its EZ just keep unscrewing all the screws you see untill things start falling out .. to get the main part of the dash out (this is the part that has 3 vents with it and that big hole that meats up with the guages) you have to lower your wheel all the way and squeezz it out .. not to much .. you could brake it.. if you need help IM me peace out

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Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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Ok that was realy dumb SE= White Face Guages sorry Chris any way how bout the needles?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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YEP EVERY THING GLOWS

Originally posted by PATRICK94SE
Ok that was realy dumb SE= White Face Guages sorry Chris any way how bout the needles?
THE NEEDLS GLOW TOO .... ALL THE LIGHTING RUNS ON THEM 3-4 LIGHTS BEHIND THERE....cap-locks oops lol
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 05:37 AM
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I've been back there a few times. ChrisCheezer, was it really dusty back there? mine was haha. I am curious to see how the Red looks back there. I was thinking about doing the same thing. Right now I have Xenon back there and the light output is awesome and buck whiter than the condom bulbs.

Here's a pic of the superwhite:

The color is a little off and the brightness is a little low, but it looks awesome in person.
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by PATRICK94SE
Sorry I meant White Face Guages and I was wondering about the Glow that they produce would be recreated. Also how bout the needles?
enough glow for you? (besides having indiglow gauges back there)
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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dan i thought you'd never post that pic
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:39 AM
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dan i thought you'd never post that pic
did it for u chris...
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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I like! Whatcha got back there
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:55 AM
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Re: DaNY

Originally posted by DaBoxGTI
I like! Whatcha got back there
really expensive bulbs...and i stress the word "really"
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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really expensive bulbs...and i stress the word "really"
are they the same as the ones you have in your headlights?
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:15 AM
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Re: Re: Re: DaNY

Originally posted by DaBoxGTI

are they the same as the ones you have in your headlights?
no sir
the ones in the headlights are cheap compared to these
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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i bet there the mini xenon/halogen bulbs ... i just replaced all the bulbs with red.

ony one thing .... i broke that little holder niddle that the RPM gugae sits on realy dont notic it..

Note: you dont have to take the plastic cover off of the guage cluster.
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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The Right Bulbs....

I was thinkin' of doin' this to, but im just not sure if i wanna go xenon or blue. Besides that, wouldn't it be better and brighter if you used the 194 LED bulbs that they have out now? Anyone have them??
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DaNY

Originally posted by ChrisCheezer
i bet there the mini xenon/halogen bulbs ... i just replaced all the bulbs with red.

ony one thing .... i broke that little holder niddle that the RPM gugae sits on realy dont notic it..

Note: you dont have to take the plastic cover off of the guage cluster.
ummm..no i'm not going to put a bulb in there that runs that hot to risk melting the dash.
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DaNY

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ummm..no i'm not going to put a bulb in there that runs that hot to risk melting the dash.
dont think it would fit.. and if you get it to fit .. ya might go blind.

dude dont use blue, because the bulbs that you take out have a blue "bulb condom " on them .. so i guess it would look the same ... i like the hyper white look .. you can try just taking the bulb comdom off and see what it looks like..

PEACE.. pics soon my camra is being replaced YAY
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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194 LED

I though ngthing had LED's in his gauge cluster
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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194 LED

I though ngthing had LED's in his gauge cluster.
And I couldn't find any colored 194 bulbs at my auto parts store so can anyone help me out on that.
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Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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Here are my Hyper red/white gauges:


Unfortunately, the picture is unclear.
Old Jan 26, 2002 | 12:31 AM
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blue LEDs, they run cooler than halogens too
Old Jan 26, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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hey Jon, why is only one side brighter than the other? I have noticed on mine that not the whole gauge is lit up by the lights. The tops and bottoms always seem to be dimmer.
Old Jan 26, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Thank you DanNY and NGTHING that is what I was looking for
Old Jan 26, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by DaBoxGTI
hey Jon, why is only one side brighter than the other? I have noticed on mine that not the whole gauge is lit up by the lights. The tops and bottoms always seem to be dimmer.
the way the light is set up, there are four bulbs, and those slots are supposed to be evenly distributed among the gauges, in hopes they light everything up. normally, with halogens it's not a big deal, but with the LEDs, there are a few "hot spots" the leds project light foward, they're not too uniform like halogens, that's why the LEDs look funny. but they're a lot brighter!
Old Jan 26, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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There are brighter bulbs

I have experimented with 194's as well as 168's on my 91SE (whiteface). The 168's tend to be brighter, but are not recommended OEM. However, I have had them in my dash for 9 months so far with no adverse affects to report. If you do try the 168's, you should get temperature rated bulbs of no more than 4150k (other experienced blub heads feel free to correct me here).
One last note, the blue coated hyper-white bulbs (not to be confuesed with a standard blue bulb) will give off an almost purple hue on the white face gauge. Fine if you like that -- I didn't. So look for an un-coated bulb.

And completely off topic...

Test drove a 2002 SE 6spd a couple of days ago, and the sales rep said "go ahead and open it up". Let's just say, I left him with a nervous giggle that he couldn't seem to shake.
The stock 255hp made my normally spirited 160hp SE seem pretty damn boring.
It took a couple back days later to re-adjust to my 91SE, but there's also alot more money in my bank account than those 2k2 boys.

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Originally posted by ngthing


the way the light is set up, there are four bulbs, and those slots are supposed to be evenly distributed among the gauges, in hopes they light everything up. normally, with halogens it's not a big deal, but with the LEDs, there are a few "hot spots" the leds project light foward, they're not too uniform like halogens, that's why the LEDs look funny. but they're a lot brighter!
do you have any idea what you're talking about?!
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Re: There are brighter bulbs

Just ordered 8 194's from NOPIonline.com. $1.15 each. Gonna replace my door bulbs and the 4 behind the dash. Will have pics as soon as I change them out. Oh, did I have to mention I ordered green?

Sidney

Originally posted by hadman
I have experimented with 194's as well as 168's on my 91SE (whiteface). The 168's tend to be brighter, but are not recommended OEM. However, I have had them in my dash for 9 months so far with no adverse affects to report. If you do try the 168's, you should get temperature rated bulbs of no more than 4150k (other experienced blub heads feel free to correct me here).
One last note, the blue coated hyper-white bulbs (not to be confuesed with a standard blue bulb) will give off an almost purple hue on the white face gauge. Fine if you like that -- I didn't. So look for an un-coated bulb.

And completely off topic...

Test drove a 2002 SE 6spd a couple of days ago, and the sales rep said "go ahead and open it up". Let's just say, I left him with a nervous giggle that he couldn't seem to shake.
The stock 255hp made my normally spirited 160hp SE seem pretty damn boring.
It took a couple back days later to re-adjust to my 91SE, but there's also alot more money in my bank account than those 2k2 boys.

Regards,
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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by DanNY

do you have any idea what you're talking about?!
maybe this will make more sense:

there are four holes in the rear of the gauge cluster, each a few inches apart from each other. halogen bulbs distirbute light evenly and uniformly. LEDs only distrube light forward. when you put LED bulbs in your housing, you end up with hotspots because the light is not uniform.

is that good enough for you danny?
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Originally posted by DanNY


do you have any idea what you're talking about?!
it makes sense to me...
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Originally posted by ngthing


maybe this will make more sense:

there are four holes in the rear of the gauge cluster, each a few inches apart from each other. halogen bulbs distirbute light evenly and uniformly. LEDs only distrube light forward. when you put LED bulbs in your housing, you end up with hotspots because the light is not uniform.

is that good enough for you danny?

u see my dash..yeah that's LEDs. u see ANY light variations? NO.

Let's go to school.
the LED in the housing is dependent on the advertised "viewing angle" what does that mean? it's how much light is dispersed to the sides. some LEDs like u said have a very narrow viewing angle. some are a lot wider. it's all dependent on how deep the LED was set into the socket and the quality of the LEDs it self.
if you get cheap LEDs then the viewing angles varies from bulb to bulb...manufacturing variations.
so your statement of LED only distributes light forward is FALSE.
it's dependent how the LED was made and what kind of LED.

so again i ask...do u have a clue what you're talking about?

go look at my dash again..tell me if you see light variation.
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Originally posted by DanNY
Let's go to school.
Ohhh!!

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Originally posted by DanNY
u see my dash..yeah that's LEDs. u see ANY light variations? NO.

Let's go to school.
the LED in the housing is dependent on the advertised "viewing angle" what does that mean? it's how much light is dispersed to the sides. some LEDs like u said have a very narrow viewing angle. some are a lot wider. it's all dependent on how deep the LED was set into the socket and the quality of the LEDs it self.
if you get cheap LEDs then the viewing angles varies from bulb to bulb...manufacturing variations.
so your statement of LED only distributes light forward is FALSE.
it's dependent how the LED was made and what kind of LED.

so again i ask...do u have a clue what you're talking about?

go look at my dash again..tell me if you see light variation.
Let's go to school? What's your problem you condesending *****? You see my dash, yeah, I have LEDs in my dash too, maybe they're not your "really" expensive LEDs, but they're LEDs. I described why my LEDs leave hot spots, that's what was asked. You don't need to be a jackass in each of your replies.
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Originally posted by ngthing


Let's go to school? What's your problem you condesending *****? You see my dash, yeah, I have LEDs in my dash too, maybe they're not your "really" expensive LEDs, but they're LEDs. I described why my LEDs leave hot spots, that's what was asked. You don't need to be a jackass in each of your replies.
dan made a good point...the way you were talking was for ALL LED's which isn't the case...
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hmmmmmmm

seems to be a heated battle goin on in here.....what brand is tha expensive LED's and what brand are tha cheapo's....not tryin to add fuel to tha fire, but an inquisitive mind would like to know????



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