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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Hey I have a 91 Maxima ... I would like to know what I need to Turbo Charge my car... I have a Garret t3 Turbo so far.. I need to know what else I will need I heard I will need the 300ZX Exhaust Manifold...a possible Supra TT fuel pump.. and some other stuff... let me know what I will need!!!! Please
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 11:41 AM
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Go to a junkyard and take the motor out of a Z31, then put your T3 on it. Upgrade the fuel pump, and injectors.
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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SO ya think I should take the WHOLE motor out from the junkyard and put it in my car??? or should I just use the exhaust manifold and the injectors and fuel pump???
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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It is up to you. How many miles are on your motor? The Z31 is a turbo engine, and was built for boost.
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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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man..i can save you hundreds of dollars.

You said you already have the t3 turbo already right? Thats all you need, nothing else.

Put the t3 under your hood somewhere, just stick it somewhere, thats all.

Now you have to be careful how you word your sentences for the rest of your life. Tell people that you got a turbo under the hood. Don't tell people it's turbocharged.

Now you'll definitely get alot of people asking for pics, When they ask for pics of that turbo under your hood, BAM..bust it out on them. You ain't lying, you really got a turbo under the hood.

Chances are with a 'turbo under the hood' you could be the next maxima of the month.
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by Sudesh
man..i can save you hundreds of dollars.

You said you already have the t3 turbo already right? Thats all you need, nothing else.

Put the t3 under your hood somewhere, just stick it somewhere, thats all.

Now you have to be careful how you word your sentences for the rest of your life. Tell people that you got a turbo under the hood. Don't tell people it's turbocharged.

Now you'll definitely get alot of people asking for pics, When they ask for pics of that turbo under your hood, BAM..bust it out on them. You ain't lying, you really got a turbo under the hood.

Chances are with a 'turbo under the hood' you could be the next maxima of the month.

hey i should do that, i have a turbo from an audi a4 layin on top of my TV. maybe ill just stick it in my engine and say i got a turbo. matter a fact, i think i will
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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If you have the time...

I would got with the junkyard Z31, then put your T3 on it. And talk to dmontzmax about the injectors, its kinda tricky getting them in.
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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I found the directions for my turbo here-->

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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Sudesh
man..i can save you hundreds of dollars.

You said you already have the t3 turbo already right? Thats all you need, nothing else.

Put the t3 under your hood somewhere, just stick it somewhere, thats all.

Now you have to be careful how you word your sentences for the rest of your life. Tell people that you got a turbo under the hood. Don't tell people it's turbocharged.

Now you'll definitely get alot of people asking for pics, When they ask for pics of that turbo under your hood, BAM..bust it out on them. You ain't lying, you really got a turbo under the hood.

Chances are with a 'turbo under the hood' you could be the next maxima of the month.
Sudesh, I take it you like to joke around w/ things. Just like when you said to jump on my muffler. I'm gettin you back for that one. (I didn't really go out and jump on my muffler, what do u think i am crazy?)
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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I found the directions for my turbo here-->
hahaha


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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by JoJo428m


Sudesh, I take it you like to joke around w/ things. Just like when you said to jump on my muffler. I'm gettin you back for that one. (I didn't really go out and jump on my muffler, what do u think i am crazy?)

HAHAH!!
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Originally posted by Brandon90gxe



hey i should do that, i have a turbo from an audi a4 layin on top of my TV. maybe ill just stick it in my engine and say i got a turbo. matter a fact, i think i will
Brandon, i'll take $29.95 for the turbo setup i custon fabricated for your car. I'm not as expensive as the guys who do it for $4,000.
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Brandon, i'll take $29.95 for the turbo setup i custon fabricated for your car. I'm not as expensive as the guys who do it for $4,000.
LOL.. duud, ill pay you 5 cents. becaquse you didnt tell me explictly how i should mount it!!!! i mean, damn if your gonan do a write up, you should hella like tell me every little step so i dont have to think on my own, OK?!?!
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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LOL.. duud, ill pay you 5 cents. becaquse you didnt tell me explictly how i should mount it!!!! i mean, damn if your gonan do a write up, you should hella like tell me every little step so i dont have to think on my own, OK?!?!
Mount it I thought it just will hang there by itself
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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man, im gonna get flamed n00b style on this one heh. but i have came up with a few simple piping layouts that i will be working with. note this is just just the piping, i would also think 300z injecotrs/fuel pump, jwt tuned ecu etc. and i came up with these for the ve...soo......





i will be working with #3, using an aftermarket ypipe cut down and weld on a t3 flange.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/h...eekerparts.htm


go easy on me
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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hey well its a start, but a few observances on my part....

#1 looks like it will most likely not clear the firewall for the second turbo on the rear bank

#2 looks like it'll have hood clearance issues

#3 looks to have some undercar clearance issues

but hey its a start!!

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Old Mar 24, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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heh yeah, it doesnt look to clear the firewall, when the piping is made it will be made to go horizontal from the trubo, not going up, heh, i just couldnt really draw it like that cause you wouldnt be able to see it. but yeah.....did that make any sense? i expect to turbo to be right infront of the firewall. just hope it doesnt hit against it at times.

oh yeah, and the under hood issues....well i guess i was kinda designing from my vg, havnt gotten a close look at a ve, ill make room
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Number 3 looks pretty good except mount the turbo in the front. With all that extra piping you're gonna have a lot of lag. Also it would be easier to work an intercooler into the system. Nice drawings, btw.

PS: RRE has killer prices on intercoolers and DIY stuff..
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 08:53 PM
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#3 won't work unless you pull the turbo up at least 10-12".
Old Mar 24, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Maximamike
Number 3 looks pretty good except mount the turbo in the front. With all that extra piping you're gonna have a lot of lag. Also it would be easier to work an intercooler into the system. Nice drawings, btw.

PS: RRE has killer prices on intercoolers and DIY stuff..

thanks, but i dont think i totally understand, what do you mean i should put it in the front, i dont think there should be a problem with lag if i have the exhaust from both manifolds flowing to the turbo, it should spool nicely....but yea, i dont think i understand


edit: new drawing comming soon.
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I think Mike is saying with all that extra pipiing it'll take longer for the "charge" to reach the TB and "make power", when you design the charge piping it should be as short as possible with little bends.

Originally posted by Dummy
thanks, but i dont think i totally understand, what do you mean i should put it in the front, i dont think there should be a problem with lag if i have the exhaust from both manifolds flowing to the turbo, it should spool nicely....but yea, i dont think i understand


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Originally posted by Jeff92se
#3 won't work unless you pull the turbo up at least 10-12".
what about this? its as close as i think i can get it heh,

and i see what mike is talking about now, but it shouldnt be a problem


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Originally posted by Dummy


what about this? its as close as i think i can get it heh,

and i see what mike is talking about now, but it shouldnt be a problem


why dont you mount the turbo, where it is stock,(in terms of the maxima) in front of the car..

btw what engine do you have? ve or vg
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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What's this?? A constructive thread about turboing the Max?!?!? My brain can't handle this! I will attempt to return this thread to normal: STFU NEWBIE!!!


Old Mar 25, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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MY CODE IS VG30E
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by mykizism


why dont you mount the turbo, where it is stock,(in terms of the maxima) in front of the car..

btw what engine do you have? ve or vg
i have a vg at the moment, but this project was gonna be for a ve that i will be getting this summer. i think it would be harder to mount it in front cause i would have to have the exhaust run to the front then to the back, i have never really seen the vg30et form the z31 but i am assuming it is MUCH differentlu laid out because it is RWD, i assume both headers run to the front wher ethey connect to the turbo then a downpipe to exhaust.

not totally sure though, but i still think it would be much different.
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thats the beauty of the "crossover pipe"....IMO thats one of the advantages of turboing the VG....the parts are already available(off the Z31), both manifolds and crossover can be had for less than $200!

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i think it would be harder to mount it in front cause i would have to have the exhaust run to the front then to the back
Old Mar 25, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
thats the beauty of the "crossover pipe"....IMO thats one of the advantages of turboing the VG....the parts are already available(off the Z31), both manifolds and crossover can be had for less than $200!

or the complete engine for about 600 shipped ^__^
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true, but you still have to deal with wiring issues...turboing the current VG in our Maxs to me seems much easier and the 9:1 should be good for boost into the mid/high teens. IMO, the z31-t engine swap is just more unecessary trouble.

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or the complete engine for about 600 shipped ^__^
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by mykizism

or the complete engine for about 600 shipped ^__^
where did you find that deal? i coldnt find it anywhere that cheap when i was looking for a z31 swap...
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where did you find that deal? i coldnt find it anywhere that cheap when i was looking for a z31 swap...
look harder, those engines are everywhere
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Originally posted by mykizism
look harder, those engines are everywhere
I had a hard time finding a cheap engine as well. Finally gave up and spent twice that on one that had the wiring harness and everything (except alternator). Only problem is, unless you get it out of a vehicle you heard run, you don't know what shape it's in. I bought from Midwest Engines, they screwed me, don't use them! I've not heard back from the BBB, just that my complaint was shipped to the office near them to be dealt with. They didn't have a lot of bad complaints, but they stuck me with a bad engine that was still under warrenty that I'm now having to rebuild (still working on it!). They did send me a new water pump though!
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Originally posted by mykizism


why dont you mount the turbo, where it is stock,(in terms of the maxima) in front of the car..

btw what engine do you have? ve or vg
hmm.... something kinda like this? or different?


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Those are neat pipe drawings. How do you make those?

Anyway, here is a big hint. 3-gen VEs and 4-gen VQs are very similar from a layout standpoint. So if you SeArCh what those guys are doing for turbo installs, you could make some really neat drawings. :P

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hmm.... something kinda like this? or different?


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Brandon, i'll take $29.95 for the turbo setup i custon fabricated for your car. I'm not as expensive as the guys who do it for $4,000.
mine's not quite that expensive 400 for both turbos, 1000 for the piping and custom manifold. i still need a rising rate fpr, and fmu. I was thinking about snagging a 4th gen FMU (my buddy needs to upgrade). so right now it's at 2000 bucks. that's BEFORE clutch, fuel pump, and a bunch of other goodies. . .. i'm hoping to keep it under 3000. if you want a pair of small turbos, they're about 4-500 a pair on www.twinturbo.net you could split the pair with a buddy if you don't want to run a ton of boost.
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mine's not quite that expensive 400 for both turbos, 1000 for the piping and custom manifold. i still need a rising rate fpr, and fmu. I was thinking about snagging a 4th gen FMU (my buddy needs to upgrade). so right now it's at 2000 bucks. that's BEFORE clutch, fuel pump, and a bunch of other goodies. . .. i'm hoping to keep it under 3000. if you want a pair of small turbos, they're about 4-500 a pair on www.twinturbo.net you could split the pair with a buddy if you don't want to run a ton of boost.
a single T25 is too small..
ENGINE DISPLACEMENT COMPRESSOR TRIM TURBINE TRIM TURBINE HSG
60-100 CID T3-50 Trim T3 Standard .36/.48
100-150 CID T3-Super 60 T3 Standard .48/.63
150-200 CID T3-Super 60 T3 Standard .63/.82
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1) Good luck w/ the oil drains

2) To get the turbos high enough probably means custom manifolds. That will blow your budget.

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mine's not quite that expensive 400 for both turbos, 1000 for the piping and custom manifold. i still need a rising rate fpr, and fmu. I was thinking about snagging a 4th gen FMU (my buddy needs to upgrade). so right now it's at 2000 bucks. that's BEFORE clutch, fuel pump, and a bunch of other goodies. . .. i'm hoping to keep it under 3000. if you want a pair of small turbos, they're about 4-500 a pair on www.twinturbo.net you could split the pair with a buddy if you don't want to run a ton of boost.
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true, but also remember post '88 300zs used T25s and 1/4th mile times remained rather similar. and HP increased 5hp! I know it says a T3 is optimum, but low boost setups should be fine with a T25, you should be able to play around with the AR on it though I think...I'm not 100% but as long as you can get the AR to .84 you'll be fine!

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a single T25 is too small..
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60-100 CID T3-50 Trim T3 Standard .36/.48
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
true, but also remember post '88 300zs used T25s and 1/4th mile times remained rather similar. and HP increased 5hp! I know it says a T3 is optimum, but low boost setups should be fine with a T25, you should be able to play around with the AR on it though I think...I'm not 100% but as long as you can get the AR to .84 you'll be fine!

Well true I forgot later z31's came with t25's. But a t25 will flow less cfm than a t3 with the same compressor/turbine AR. Also when you up the compressor A/R you'll have much more lag but more power up top. So with a t25 with a higher A/R you'll be really suffering down low?

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