Turbo??
03-27-2002, 05:32 PM
#42
Originally posted by jim90gxe
So with a t25 with a higher A/R you'll be really suffering down low?
I'm not expert, don't shoot me
So with a t25 with a higher A/R you'll be really suffering down low?
I'm not expert, don't shoot me
...and according to Ray Hall, a .84 is indeed optimal for a 3.0L EFI engine running 8psi and around .52 for 4/5 and psi.
hopefully one day i can be able to sit and talk numbers on turbines and why this won't fit that or that won't fit this with you guys....i'm mezmorized!!
03-27-2002, 10:23 PM
#46
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this is why i'm just using two. . .
there are a few clearance problems with the rear firewall. the turbo in the rear is going to end up being mounted pretty low. I'm not thrilled about this, but it's what's going to have to happen unless i can figure something else out. redline (the guy that did my exhaust) quoted me 1000 bucks for intake piping and custom manifolds and y pipe. i was thinking though, what about a top mounted IC sorta above the tranny with a scoop? not very efficient but i wouldn't have to run all that piping. . . . just a thought. . .
there are a few clearance problems with the rear firewall. the turbo in the rear is going to end up being mounted pretty low. I'm not thrilled about this, but it's what's going to have to happen unless i can figure something else out. redline (the guy that did my exhaust) quoted me 1000 bucks for intake piping and custom manifolds and y pipe. i was thinking though, what about a top mounted IC sorta above the tranny with a scoop? not very efficient but i wouldn't have to run all that piping. . . . just a thought. . .
03-27-2002, 10:33 PM
#47
if the turbo is too low there won't be enough gravity to properly flow the oil back to the pan....why not just run an FMIC?? if clearance is a prob, which I don't see it being, you can also consider air-water intercooling as an alternative to an AAIC, and the advantage would be you can mount the AWIC in place of the battery tray. I think Spearco offers a complete AWIC system for around $7-800(minus piping), I can't remember I saw it earlier today....IMO if you're not gonna rebuild you engine for high boost theres no point in making a twin turbo system, just my $.02!
Originally posted by flyry110
the turbo in the rear is going to end up being mounted pretty low. I'm not thrilled about this, but it's what's going to have to happen unless i can figure something else out. redline (the guy that did my exhaust) quoted me 1000 bucks for intake piping and custom manifolds and y pipe. i was thinking though, what about a top mounted IC sorta above the tranny with a scoop? not very efficient but i wouldn't have to run all that piping. . . . just a thought. . .
the turbo in the rear is going to end up being mounted pretty low. I'm not thrilled about this, but it's what's going to have to happen unless i can figure something else out. redline (the guy that did my exhaust) quoted me 1000 bucks for intake piping and custom manifolds and y pipe. i was thinking though, what about a top mounted IC sorta above the tranny with a scoop? not very efficient but i wouldn't have to run all that piping. . . . just a thought. . .
03-28-2002, 12:48 AM
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Dang I am getting Turbo Maxima Envy bad!!! anybody wanna swap me a immaculate shape 89-91 SE 5sp and about $6K for my ZTT? I wanna go back to the simpler days where it was all about the power and who the hell cares about how you look!
*Or an immaculate shape 92-94 SE 5sp and $4.5K?
*Or an immaculate shape 92-94 SE 5sp and $4.5K?
03-28-2002, 12:57 AM
#49
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Originally posted by Czar
Dang I am getting Turbo Maxima Envy bad!!! anybody wanna swap me a immaculate shape 89-91 SE 5sp and about $6K for my ZTT? I wanna go back to the simpler days where it was all about the power and who the hell cares about how you look!
*Or an immaculate shape 92-94 SE 5sp and $4.5K?
Dang I am getting Turbo Maxima Envy bad!!! anybody wanna swap me a immaculate shape 89-91 SE 5sp and about $6K for my ZTT? I wanna go back to the simpler days where it was all about the power and who the hell cares about how you look!
*Or an immaculate shape 92-94 SE 5sp and $4.5K?
05-14-2002, 03:25 PM
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300 ZX Turbo
I currently own a 89 maxima. My buddy got a hold of a 300ZX single Turbo. I was wondering if I would have to do some serious construction/changes to my engine and piping. I was told by a non-trusted source that all I have to do is find a way to pipe in the oil cause it is oil and water cooled. But I would like some comments from you guys. Cause you seem to know what you are talkin about.
05-14-2002, 04:01 PM
#51
Re: 300 ZX Turbo
since your doing a direct swap in of the z31 engine the oil and water lines should already be in place...
Originally posted by 89Maxima
I was told by a non-trusted source that all I have to do is find a way to pipe in the oil cause it is oil and water cooled.
I was told by a non-trusted source that all I have to do is find a way to pipe in the oil cause it is oil and water cooled.
05-14-2002, 04:02 PM
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wow, where did this com from heh...well its back, might as well ninja it...jeff sorry i didnt see your reply sooner but i just used regular ol' mspaint to make those drawing...and i finally came to my senses and came to my senses and SEARCHED heh and saw what nigel had done and pretty much copying the layout but with slightly different piping layouts due to the use of a starion intercooler.
and 89 maxima, im not totally clear on your question but you could pull the manifolds from the single turbo 300 and get a rebuilt or new t3 and either get piping custom bent or try and find the right bends on www.jcwhitney.com or www.roadraceengineering.com gonna need to either get the z31 injectors and TT fuel pump and let JWT tune your ECU, or buy a boost dependant fuel pressure regulator and TT fuel pump...i would go with the FPR because the maf might not be able to "send" the injectors enough fuel.... just some basics, im not an expert.
and 89 maxima, im not totally clear on your question but you could pull the manifolds from the single turbo 300 and get a rebuilt or new t3 and either get piping custom bent or try and find the right bends on www.jcwhitney.com or www.roadraceengineering.com gonna need to either get the z31 injectors and TT fuel pump and let JWT tune your ECU, or buy a boost dependant fuel pressure regulator and TT fuel pump...i would go with the FPR because the maf might not be able to "send" the injectors enough fuel.... just some basics, im not an expert.
05-15-2002, 11:21 AM
#55
Wow. I think that just about sums it up. Good luck with your project.
Originally posted by Booner8269
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you? Like 7-9 psi or whatever? Sorry if this is a ignorant ?. Is like yo turbo mine in like 6 months or so after i get my signing bonus
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you? Like 7-9 psi or whatever? Sorry if this is a ignorant ?. Is like yo turbo mine in like 6 months or so after i get my signing bonus
05-15-2002, 11:27 AM
#56
Originally posted by Booner8269
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you?
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you?
05-15-2002, 12:13 PM
#59
Originally posted by Booner8269
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you? Like 7-9 psi or whatever? Sorry if this is a ignorant ?. Is like yo turbo mine in like 6 months or so after i get my signing bonus
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you? Like 7-9 psi or whatever? Sorry if this is a ignorant ?. Is like yo turbo mine in like 6 months or so after i get my signing bonus
05-15-2002, 05:57 PM
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With BPU mods the Z31T's see around 200-215rwhp with the stock T3.
Originally posted by Booner8269
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you? Like 7-9 psi or whatever? Sorry if this is a ignorant ?. Is like yo turbo mine in like 6 months or so after i get my signing bonus
What kind of HP you guys think a turbo will give you? Like 7-9 psi or whatever? Sorry if this is a ignorant ?. Is like yo turbo mine in like 6 months or so after i get my signing bonus
05-15-2002, 07:53 PM
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BBMaxima, (or anyone else thats interested in in turbochargers)
If your really serious about doing this turbo thing right you should go and get yourself a copy of Maximum Boost by Corky Bell.
Then read it at least twice.
It should be able to answer most of the questions that have been posted here. Plus a bunch of other things about turbocharging that alot of people never even think about.
Good Luck with the project.
If your really serious about doing this turbo thing right you should go and get yourself a copy of Maximum Boost by Corky Bell.
Then read it at least twice.
It should be able to answer most of the questions that have been posted here. Plus a bunch of other things about turbocharging that alot of people never even think about.
Good Luck with the project.
05-15-2002, 11:36 PM
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im sure alot of the people even considering this project already know alot of the stuff thats in the book..i agree its a great book and has lots of good info but nothing that really requires you to read it.. alot of people here have some good knowledge of this stuff.
05-16-2002, 12:26 AM
#65
That's like saying most people don't need to read law journals to become lawyers because they watched LA Law for years on TV.
They know a few things about it, but it's the important details that get overlooked when you don't do your research.
They know a few things about it, but it's the important details that get overlooked when you don't do your research.
05-16-2002, 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
That's like saying most people don't need to read law journals to become lawyers because they watched LA Law for years on TV.
They know a few things about it, but it's the important details that get overlooked when you don't do your research.
That's like saying most people don't need to read law journals to become lawyers because they watched LA Law for years on TV.
They know a few things about it, but it's the important details that get overlooked when you don't do your research.
05-16-2002, 07:49 AM
#67
and with an attitude like that, that'll be the first person on here saying.....
"why is my engine smoking and why is there a piston floating in my oil pan!!!"
you can never have enough knowledge!!
"why is my engine smoking and why is there a piston floating in my oil pan!!!"
you can never have enough knowledge!!
Originally posted by Dummy
im sure alot of the people even considering this project already know alot of the stuff thats in the book..i agree its a great book and has lots of good info but nothing that really requires you to read it.. alot of people here have some good knowledge of this stuff.
im sure alot of the people even considering this project already know alot of the stuff thats in the book..i agree its a great book and has lots of good info but nothing that really requires you to read it.. alot of people here have some good knowledge of this stuff.
05-16-2002, 08:59 AM
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i know, but i was just saying alot of people wouldnt even be able to go through with it if they didnt know these things..iim sure most of you already know of the book that are trying to do a turbo project.
you do the research, you find answers and tips..im not saying its not a good book to have..it is and i have it, just alot of other people, or the people doing this probably have it too.
you do the research, you find answers and tips..im not saying its not a good book to have..it is and i have it, just alot of other people, or the people doing this probably have it too.
05-16-2002, 09:30 AM
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Well put Mat93se.
Although Law & Order IS Better.
Dummy
IM not saying that people dont know what there talkin about.
Its just that if the posters on here knew as much as you give them credit for this thread wouldnt even exist.
"nothing that really requires you to read it"
I would think that building a custom turbo is exactly the type of thing that requires reading it.
Although Law & Order IS Better.
Dummy
IM not saying that people dont know what there talkin about.
Its just that if the posters on here knew as much as you give them credit for this thread wouldnt even exist.
"nothing that really requires you to read it"
I would think that building a custom turbo is exactly the type of thing that requires reading it.
05-16-2002, 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Mdriver
Well put Mat93se.
Although Law & Order IS Better.
Dummy
IM not saying that people dont know what there talkin about.
Its just that if the posters on here knew as much as you give them credit for this thread wouldnt even exist.
"nothing that really requires you to read it"
I would think that building a custom turbo is exactly the type of thing that requires reading it.
Well put Mat93se.
Although Law & Order IS Better.
Dummy
IM not saying that people dont know what there talkin about.
Its just that if the posters on here knew as much as you give them credit for this thread wouldnt even exist.
"nothing that really requires you to read it"
I would think that building a custom turbo is exactly the type of thing that requires reading it.
05-16-2002, 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by Mdriver
Well put Mat93se.
Although Law & Order IS Better.
Dummy
IM not saying that people dont know what there talkin about.
Its just that if the posters on here knew as much as you give them credit for this thread wouldnt even exist.
"nothing that really requires you to read it"
I would think that building a custom turbo is exactly the type of thing that requires reading it.
Well put Mat93se.
Although Law & Order IS Better.
Dummy
IM not saying that people dont know what there talkin about.
Its just that if the posters on here knew as much as you give them credit for this thread wouldnt even exist.
"nothing that really requires you to read it"
I would think that building a custom turbo is exactly the type of thing that requires reading it.
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