Camber plates
I need to know where I can get a camber kit for my car. My front tires are wearing really bad and I need them soon. I remember that someone said that they make them. I need to know how much they are and where I can get them. I only need the fronts. Thanks guys
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
hey chris this is off topic BUT.. how low is your car (with the cut) i want to lower my ride more but right now i can barly get the jack under my max. i think this is a problem. i have ST lower springs. if i cut them four inches from the dead coil how much lower do you think this will lower my ride hieght. thanks for your help. did i mention that i have ground FX on my ride. thanks agian.
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Patrick
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
Do I need to go on?
Especially cutting 4" off your springs.. that's friggin stupid. if you want lower ride, go with Intrax or Sprint springs.. sprint have a 2" drop and intrax are 1.75".
anything lower than that, and you'll need bags, because you'll have problems just goign over pebbles in the road. my car only has eibachs, and I can't even take it to jiffy lube to change the oil without hanging my sway bar on the lip of the "pit".. anything over 2" high drags bottom.. I can't imagine lowering your car any more than 2" without seriously damaging something the first time you hit a bump..
a 2" drop will put your sway bar about 1" off the ground even without anyone in the car.
okay.. go ahead and cut your springs.. don't say I didn't warn you.
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!! DO NOT CUT YOUR SPRINGS!!
Do I need to go on?
Especially cutting 4" off your springs.. that's friggin stupid. if you want lower ride, go with Intrax or Sprint springs.. sprint have a 2" drop and intrax are 1.75".
anything lower than that, and you'll need bags, because you'll have problems just goign over pebbles in the road. my car only has eibachs, and I can't even take it to jiffy lube to change the oil without hanging my sway bar on the lip of the "pit".. anything over 2" high drags bottom.. I can't imagine lowering your car any more than 2" without seriously damaging something the first time you hit a bump..
a 2" drop will put your sway bar about 1" off the ground even without anyone in the car.
okay.. go ahead and cut your springs.. don't say I didn't warn you.
Camber kits from Tire Rack
From what I know they dont make a "true" camber plate for our cars. I'm sure the camber kit from the Tire Rack involves installing a smaller diameter bolts that connects the strut and spindle assy. With this set-up you might be able to get 1*+/- Hey it's a start, but not so keen with the smaller bolts.
Eibach, engalls Engineering, and a few other companies make the camber bolts for our cars.
there are a few companies out there that make a <U>+</u>3 deg camber plate for Maximas.. they're mainly for the 4th gens, but can probably be modified or will work on 3rd gens without much work..
To be honest, I don't think the problem with the tire wear is camber.. I think it's more likely alignment (toe) or driving habits or simply a bad tire... if you break a belt in a tire (easily done by pinching it on a curb.. done it many times myself), it can cause uneven wear like that and you won't notice it until too late.
I've got 2 sets of stock-size tires in my toolshed at home if you'd like to take a look.
as soon as I put my new rims on (changed NOTHING else), the problem dissappeared. no more hard pulling, no more wandering, no more road noise, no more uneven wear..
blah blah..
check your tires and check your alignment before you invest $$$ in a monoball camber kit.
there are a few companies out there that make a <U>+</u>3 deg camber plate for Maximas.. they're mainly for the 4th gens, but can probably be modified or will work on 3rd gens without much work..
To be honest, I don't think the problem with the tire wear is camber.. I think it's more likely alignment (toe) or driving habits or simply a bad tire... if you break a belt in a tire (easily done by pinching it on a curb.. done it many times myself), it can cause uneven wear like that and you won't notice it until too late.
I've got 2 sets of stock-size tires in my toolshed at home if you'd like to take a look.
as soon as I put my new rims on (changed NOTHING else), the problem dissappeared. no more hard pulling, no more wandering, no more road noise, no more uneven wear..
blah blah..
check your tires and check your alignment before you invest $$$ in a monoball camber kit.
the wear that I am having is definitely from the cambers. It looks like my tire has been wearing just totally on the inside corner. It looks like someone just sliced a piece out of the corner of the car. It almost looks like the tire is wearing on the strut but thats not possible because I've checked the gap. My car is dropped pretty low, about 4" at least, but its really not that bad compared to civics and all those other sh**ty cars. With a wear this bad what type of degree in the camber plates should I look for. Would a +-3deg kit fix it completely.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
how do you have a 4" drop with Sus tech springs, and how do you not scrape the ground with your sway bar every time you touch a bump?
if you've got 4" lower, then you definitely do have a camber problem.. personally I don't see much point in it, but whatever floats your boat.. go dump the $400 on a set of cabmer plates and take it to the shop and see what they can do. 3 degrees should be enough to fix it, but there's no telling.
if you've got 4" lower, then you definitely do have a camber problem.. personally I don't see much point in it, but whatever floats your boat.. go dump the $400 on a set of cabmer plates and take it to the shop and see what they can do. 3 degrees should be enough to fix it, but there's no telling.
from a handleing standpoint, there is a point where you lower your car too much. There's also a point where your car can be too tight. This generally induces understeer. I roadcourse a CRX and i've seen Civics and integras slammed that handle like S**T because they're so low. You may think your car looks incredibly tight, and that's great, but you do need some give in your suspension. When you lower your car that much, your suspension no longer can move, which makes your camber pretty much fixed. Normally when you corner, and the tire goes into the wheel well, the camber changes which keeps a good patch of tire connected to the road. I'd love to see your max on the roadcourse, that thing has to understeer like crazy.
Tell you guys the truth my Max handles a hell of a lot better now than it did before. I got the 4" drop by cutting the dead coils off of my ST springs. The car could accually be lowered more. It just sits flush in the wheelwells like lowered cars are supposed to look. I wasnt satisfied with the drop that the springs themselfs got. To me it still lookwd like it sat so high. I dont have any problem bottoming out on the sway bar where I live. I live on back roads and I drive the car hard. I know that as soon as I get my new shocks the car will handle great. The maxima sits so high stock that the 4" drop doesnt hurt it. There is still plenty of room for the car to roll around turns. Just hopeing that the camber plates work. Thanks guys
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
what is the SCCA meet? I dont have time to drive the Max down wherever it is to show you what it can do. Believe me it handles great for a maxima. I just want camber plates. With those and shocks it will handle just as good as anybody's Max with just regular springs. By the way have you seen GT-Touring cars. I believe that they are like an inch of the ground and they are the best handling cars in the world. I understand that there is a point where you can go to low but I'm not there trust me.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
ok, first off, look how wide their tires are, and how wide your tires are. their suspension doesn't need to give to keep a large patch of tire on the ground. F1 cars are an incho off the ground, but their tires are about 2 feet wide in the back. SCCA meet is the Sports Car Club of America. WE race roadcourse and circuit. I'm sure your car handles better than stock, but i'm waiting for a coilover system for my max. Adjustable is the only way to go. and believe me, if you cut 4 inches off your springs, you took too much off. You shouldn't have taken any off actually. I've seen kids do that before at the course. Trust me, you may think your car handles great, but when you put it in a serious racing situation, i mean on the ragged edge, you'll see the difference. On a street you can only push your car so far, but at the track, there's nothin to hit as long as your only road coursing not circuit tracking. When your car transitions from a tight right into a tight left, you're gonna turn the wheel and nothin's gonna happen. trust me on this, i've seen maximas and accords lowered like that, where kids think that the lower and tighter the better, they get toasted by VW foxes.
I know what your sayin man but I'm not trying to turn my max into a road course racer. I just want a max that looks nice and can keep up with a vette on the street. Trust me I love road course cars but I wouldnt throw that kind of money in a heavy luxury car just so I could take a corner a little faster. If you have a car that has better acceleration it will beat another car with better handling on a road course. Take for instance the Mustang GT and Integra Type-R. The mustang is one of the worst handling sports cars when stock, yet it will beat an integra made for road racing just because of flat power. I'm more on the speed side rather than handling, but I like good handling as well.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
MUSTANG BEAT AN INTEGRA AT THE ROADCOURSE
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The only time i've EVER seen a mustang fare better than an intgera, civic, CRX, and such is bill's saleen. it's an older style Saleen fully race modified, the guy even has racing licenses, and he still gets beat fairly often. he shows well, but dude, power doesn't mean jack in a tight course. It helps a ton, but it's all about the handleing. Let me know when you beat a corvette. That's something i'd like to see. have you ever even driven a corvette, dude, unless your max has some serious HP and Torque, adn you find some way to put it to the pavement, your toast. Hate to brake it to ya. Our CRX that consistantly runs with the FTD cars (for you non road course fans FTD=Fastest Time of day). Our top gear maxes out at 95mph. It has a sequential 6 speed. Seriously man, power doesn't mean fast. Before our engine/Tranny mods to the CRX we could easily outrun stangs, camaros, and RWD cars through the twists. It's funny seeing people show up at the course with like 400 horse and getting DESTROYED. I've been racing SCCA for two years now and man, it's defenitely handleing that wins races. Honda S2000's,Civics, and Crx's, there's a few miatas (90 HP!!!), and a full race Supra that generally do the best. Not the 400 HP jobs. Although i will give it up for TSI Talons. they rip it up. My max generally runs good. I'm just out there for $h!t$ and giggles but it's cool to watch. I'm not tryin to rip on ya dude, i'm sure it looks sweet with it bein slammed that much, it just bothers me if it's all looks and no bite. I think anyone that reads my posts probably knows that by now
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The only time i've EVER seen a mustang fare better than an intgera, civic, CRX, and such is bill's saleen. it's an older style Saleen fully race modified, the guy even has racing licenses, and he still gets beat fairly often. he shows well, but dude, power doesn't mean jack in a tight course. It helps a ton, but it's all about the handleing. Let me know when you beat a corvette. That's something i'd like to see. have you ever even driven a corvette, dude, unless your max has some serious HP and Torque, adn you find some way to put it to the pavement, your toast. Hate to brake it to ya. Our CRX that consistantly runs with the FTD cars (for you non road course fans FTD=Fastest Time of day). Our top gear maxes out at 95mph. It has a sequential 6 speed. Seriously man, power doesn't mean fast. Before our engine/Tranny mods to the CRX we could easily outrun stangs, camaros, and RWD cars through the twists. It's funny seeing people show up at the course with like 400 horse and getting DESTROYED. I've been racing SCCA for two years now and man, it's defenitely handleing that wins races. Honda S2000's,Civics, and Crx's, there's a few miatas (90 HP!!!), and a full race Supra that generally do the best. Not the 400 HP jobs. Although i will give it up for TSI Talons. they rip it up. My max generally runs good. I'm just out there for $h!t$ and giggles but it's cool to watch. I'm not tryin to rip on ya dude, i'm sure it looks sweet with it bein slammed that much, it just bothers me if it's all looks and no bite. I think anyone that reads my posts probably knows that by now
Damn dude I agree with you on a lot of that, but I'm tellin ya in a sport compact car issue a couple of months ago a GT beat the Type-4 on the roadcourse. The magizine editors were surprised themselves. They said it had to to with the extra power it had. Now I know it all depends on how the track is. If there are no straightaways at all on the track than you are right about how the power doesnt matter, but I would rather have a cay that that performs in all areas and not just handling. I'm not much on those cars that are only built for the drag strip, but hey, everyone has their own oppinions.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
92GXE, touring wing, 18” racing wheels, Port&Polished intake, custom intake, custom yellow interior, racing seats, back seats taken out and replaced with subs and amps, NOS kit, Suspension tech. Lowering springs, custom grille, soon to be custom painted and have the whole engine rebuilt for big shot NOS and custom SC and tranny converted to 5-speed.
Originally posted by chris92gxe
I know what your sayin man but I'm not trying to turn my max into a road course racer. I just want a max that looks nice and can keep up with a vette on the street. Trust me I love road course cars but I wouldnt throw that kind of money in a heavy luxury car just so I could take a corner a little faster. If you have a car that has better acceleration it will beat another car with better handling on a road course. Take for instance the Mustang GT and Integra Type-R. The mustang is one of the worst handling sports cars when stock, yet it will beat an integra made for road racing just because of flat power. I'm more on the speed side rather than handling, but I like good handling as well.
I know what your sayin man but I'm not trying to turn my max into a road course racer. I just want a max that looks nice and can keep up with a vette on the street. Trust me I love road course cars but I wouldnt throw that kind of money in a heavy luxury car just so I could take a corner a little faster. If you have a car that has better acceleration it will beat another car with better handling on a road course. Take for instance the Mustang GT and Integra Type-R. The mustang is one of the worst handling sports cars when stock, yet it will beat an integra made for road racing just because of flat power. I'm more on the speed side rather than handling, but I like good handling as well.
Ask Biomax about underpowered, better handling cars on a track..
he's got a 4th gen with coilovers and minimal engine mods..
guess what?
He held his own against Acura NSX, Vettes, Porsches, and others on the road course..
they killed him on the straights, but he caught up and passed them in corners.. overall lap times were almost identical between his maxima and the NSX.
now what the hell were you saying about power?
you come to oklahoma, and I'll show you what a good handling Maxima can do against stuff with much more power. I've stomped Camaros, Rustangs, Eclipses, tons of modded Integras and civics.. I stomped another modded civic today- in straightline power, braking, AND cornering..
this is with only basic engine, suspension, and brake mods. not cutting 4" off my already dropped springs.
Talk on about that 4" drop..
BTW, this isn't a flame.. just a post to say "know what you're talking about before you post it."
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