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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 04:09 PM
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I am aware that the stock GT's have 190hp. What type of bolt ons would I need to beat one?
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 04:20 PM
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What kinda Max you got??

I'm thinking a 160hp VG right!? I guess the basics would help, <b>intake, exhaust sys.</b>(no serious mods though, Probes aren't that fast!).....I could go on forever, why not just try racing him?? you can probably beat him off the start but don't expext him to smoke you terribly either!! Unless hes got a eng. swap!! but remeber VG has no topend power!!! I'd just say live and learn, since its almost impossible to judge bolt-on HP performance on every Max!!! don't be afraid to lose every now and then!


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I am aware that the stock GT's have 190hp. What type of bolt ons would I need to beat one?
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 04:29 PM
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Re: What kinda Max you got??

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I'm thinking a 160hp VG right!? I guess the basics would help, <b>intake, exhaust sys.</b>(no serious mods though, Probes aren't that fast!).....I could go on forever, why not just try racing him?? you can probably beat him off the start but don't expext him to smoke you terribly either!! Unless hes got a eng. swap!! but remeber VG has no topend power!!! I'd just say live and learn, since its almost impossible to judge bolt-on HP performance on every Max!!! don't be afraid to lose every now and then!


Originally posted by Marcus Cantu
I am aware that the stock GT's have 190hp. What type of bolt ons would I need to beat one?
I'm planning on adding a Y pipe but not sure if I want to go with a Cattaman or WarpSpeed pipe. I've heard on the forum that you can get more horsepower out of the WarpSpeed pipe. I wonder how much horsepower that would add to my already stock 160hp.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 04:50 PM
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Understand that 160hp on the stock Max is NEW! You can't assume that if a Y-pipe adds (I don't know) 5hp, then you've got 165hp. Age and how well it has been taken care of all make a difference. I've seen ariticles where just an oil change on a car being tested made 2hp. Not a lot, but proves my point. Take into consideration that your Max is at a disadvantage already with lower hp and more weight! Is yours, his a 5-speed? That makes a difference! I've raced a Probe 4 -banger, there was no contest, mine a 5sp with mods and his is just a 5sp (he wanted to race). Some cars with 6 cylinders are rated fairly the same as similiar models with 4cyl. I'll use the new Eclipse for example, v6 has more power, but was rated lower than the 4 cyl. overall (consumer reports). I guess because it was non turbo! Race him, find out!
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Chris Gregg
Understand that 160hp on the stock Max is NEW! You can't assume that if a Y-pipe adds (I don't know) 5hp, then you've got 165hp. Age and how well it has been taken care of all make a difference. I've seen ariticles where just an oil change on a car being tested made 2hp. Not a lot, but proves my point. Take into consideration that your Max is at a disadvantage already with lower hp and more weight! Is yours, his a 5-speed? That makes a difference! I've raced a Probe 4 -banger, there was no contest, mine a 5sp with mods and his is just a 5sp (he wanted to race). Some cars with 6 cylinders are rated fairly the same as similiar models with 4cyl. I'll use the new Eclipse for example, v6 has more power, but was rated lower than the 4 cyl. overall (consumer reports). I guess because it was non turbo! Race him, find out!
Hey Chris,
How can I be at a disadvantage when the Probe that I'm thinking about racing is an SE. Although it is 5 speed standard but I read somwhere that any Ford Probe SE, no matter what year has a range of 115-125hp max. I've seen the car he has some type of exhaust system on it and it also has some type of racing gauges,but that don't mean s*#t. Unless my car is completly a piece of s*#t but, let me tell you when I punch the gas down all the way that baby takes off like a bat out of hell. I don't have hardly any mods except maybe a Flowmaster muffler and I'm plannig on buying a Y pipe and next month adding a 75 shot of NOS.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 05:40 PM
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You said stock GT Probes had 190hp, remember. I'm going on what you said! Is this not what the other guy has? If not, why did you mention it?
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Chris Gregg
You said stock GT Probes had 190hp, remember. I'm going on what you said! Is this not what the other guy has? If not, why did you mention it?
Chris I mentioned it because just in case I ever run into one I'll know what to expect. I'll take that back on the horsepower on the GT. The 1989-1992 Ford Probe has 145hp@4300rpm and the 1993-1997 has 164hp@5600-6000rpms.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 05:52 PM
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WHOA.....hold on a minute.....

just checked my handy "Riceboy Math HP Guide" (Stillen catalog ), and a stock v6 GT Probe only has <b>165 hp</b>!!! man you should be able to take him, since you'll ahve the VG torque advantage!!! but w/ a stick I'd say advantage Probe, since their 1/4 mile range from low 16's and slower!! but like everybody is saying, give it a try, no shame in losing!!! as for mods don't get real hp confused with Riceboy hp, a 15hp bolt on won't add 15hp at the wheels, only way to determine actual hp gain is t dyno your car!!!

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You said stock GT Probes had 190hp, remember. I'm going on what you said! Is this not what the other guy has? If not, why did you mention it?
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 05:58 PM
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I've never felt as though any Probe is a threat. Personally, just race the SE. If you run into a GT, give it your best. done.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 06:10 PM
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Hey Guys thanks for the confidence boost. I'll give it a shot if I run into him. This guy had the nerve to stop in front of my house and rev his car up while I was at work last night. My wife happen to tell me about 30 minutes ago. That really pissed me off. He lives just down the street from me.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 08:26 PM
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I don't think it really matters if you win or lose...at least you're not the one stuck with a ford **** probe.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 08:52 PM
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Well my cousin has a newer gt that is a 5-speed and its quick. It could take my VG auto for sure. Now I have a friend that has the se 5-speed and it's slow *** ****. You got that one for sure.
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 08:53 PM
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I will tell you this much. I have a '93 SE 5-spd and I smoked a GT probe with mods. The guy sounded like he probably had an intake. He had a nice big riceboy turbo muffler on the back, dual 3-4". I swear I've hear lawnmowers that sound meaner than that guy's car!
Old Dec 6, 2000 | 11:11 PM
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what year probe is this, anyway?
probe GTs have lotsa versions, including the older '88s with turbo.. they can be easily modded to dump 200hp to the ground. stock is around 165 with turbo though.. not much to worry about except if it's a 5 spd.

my friend can drive his 5 spd pretty well, and I'll stay dead even with him up to about 90, then I'll start to pull away..
Old Dec 7, 2000 | 05:15 AM
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Hey guys, just pray you don't run into this probe cause I promise you he would put a spanking on all of us

http://www.probesport.com/superprobe/
Old Dec 7, 2000 | 02:31 PM
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Matt,
I'm more than sure that this Ford Probe is between a 1993-1997. I looked the specs up on this car and the specs read: 115hp@5500rpm(1995 only / 118hp@5500rpm(1994-1995). I shouldn't have any problems with this guy even if he has a few mods. The more visible ones were the semi-loud exhaust and the shift tach light.
Old Dec 7, 2000 | 02:42 PM
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Well some of the older Probes were turbocharged. Those are actually pretty fast stock. Modded, your toast. Same engine as the old Mazda 626 turbo I think. Also pretty fast.

Originally posted by Marcus Cantu
Matt,
I'm more than sure that this Ford Probe is between a 1993-1997. I looked the specs up on this car and the specs read: 115hp@5500rpm(1995 only / 118hp@5500rpm(1994-1995). I shouldn't have any problems with this guy even if he has a few mods. The more visible ones were the semi-loud exhaust and the shift tach light.
Old Dec 7, 2000 | 02:49 PM
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This car I believe does not have a turbo. At least I hope not. I know for sure that I got up behind him and his car had the SE sticker on the rear bumper.
Old Dec 7, 2000 | 05:33 PM
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If he has the SE on the rear bumper then its a 4 banger.. My ex had a Ford Probe SE and it was slow as hell.. You should have no problem with him..
Old Dec 7, 2000 | 06:41 PM
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I was looking at a 97' GT 5-speed tonite at a car auction..was suprised to find a DOHC motor found in v6 626's under da hood.

I saw a probe on the internet that had a Taurus SHO motor adapted into it...thats probably a car not to mess with
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