Does anyone know what is the 4th Generation Middle East and Japanese Maxima or Ceferios with the variable intake manifolds are rated HP and Torque from the factory ?? Is it the same as ours in the USA 190 HP or is it more ??? Also is it just the manifolds that are different ??? Thanks for any info. Peace.

Well, I'm not to sure if there are any maximas in the middle east. I'm in Egypt right now and they are pretty close to the middle east if not in it. I have been here for the past month and I have still to see 1 maxima. I dont know if they are sold out here, I could be wrong though.

I believe the 3.0 liter cars are rated over 200HP...

I was in the middle east (DUBAI) last year for work.

My collegues have maximas there and they call it the Flying Coffin.

They told me that on the open areas I guess in the remote areas, they crank out as much speed as they can and many end up crashing.

Weird.

K.

~220~

227 @ 6400 rpm essentially a totally different powerband just because of the VI.

There are mad Maximas here in Kuwait. They consider them Lexus.

One of them didn't happen to like the phrase "I am best when put to the test..." did they?

is the vq30dd an option on cefiros?

wow that's funny and good to hear.
wait til the lexus guys read this

hmmmm sorry mang thats gotta be over here in Asia where Nissans slogan aint "driven" but... "Life Together" Life with who?

but its only in Asia where you can buy Tommy Dopedealer t-shirts instead of Tommy Hilfiger

hehe here in NYC you can buy any t-shirt that says anything you want. ie. Tommy Pullmyfinger.

hehe maybe sold by asian people? all I remember is that as soon as Tommy becasme big like a long time ago I was in thailand.. home of... fake stuff and dude the varaiations that came out were amazing
my friend in taiwan just came out yesterday wearing that Dopedealer shirt... i was like dude... and how many time have I seen Prado Gushi Armana or Louis Vitton instead of what they are supposed to be

oh btw smeone asked earlier about he VQ30dd ( think ya mean DE right?) well in Taiwan and most of Asia the A32 Cefiro and A33 come with a VQ20DE (168hp??) VQ30DE (220-227) or now a VQ35DE (258hp)

another thing about Asia is basically the lowest octane gas you can buy is 92... Nissan can be a little bit more aggressive when not dealing with the US's crappy gas

Yeah If I ever go out there it will be my mission to find that guy ..

Or I could just look here in the forums

So does adding the VI basically make the VQ30DE in 4th Gens the same engine as the VQ30DE in the special anniversary Maxima?

-Jon

nice

The VQ30DD is the direct injection version of the VQ, it's good for 240HP and 227 ft/lbs.

I believe the Cefiro has a VQ25DD (210HP & 200 ft/lbs) option, but I don't think the VQ30DD is available.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by guido_sst


The VQ30DD is the direct injection version of the VQ, it's good for 240HP and 227 ft/lbs. [/QUOTE

Dont we have the VQ30DE? D= direct? How did they get the extra HP?

92 is the lowest? that's nice! so what's the highest? like 97? I know in russia my friends got their hands on 103 octane fuel and nearly cooked their Zhigul's (name of Russian car) engine with it!

The first D = Dual Overhead Cam, E = Electronic Fuel Injection, the second D = Direct Fuel Injection.

Direct Fuel Injection means the injector is actually in the cylinder (diesel-style) and the intake valves carry only the air charge. In our system the injector sits above the intake valves and the fuel is carried in with the air charge.

The direct injection system can't be used with the fuels available in the US, the sulfur content of gasoline here is too high.

Oh thats pretty cool.. damn man the US sucks!!

Whats the story with the 2lt version of the Cefiro A32.
The Max i have has a 2lt, 24V, V6, twin cam engine.

I know she won't be up with the 3lt 225bhp(ish) engines but would anyone know the bhp of this engine ???

The Asian / Middle East Maxima's with the 3.0 liter engines are making about 220 crank hp +/-. So basically they should be making about 187 fwhp for a 5 speed and about 176 fwhp for an auto, assuming 15% and 20% loss. If the only difference between our USA 4th generation motors and their 3.0 liter motors is the variable intake manifolds, then basically a totally stock USA 3.0 liter motor with a variable intake manifold installed should dyno the same, has anyone confirmed this ???? Looking through some post it seems to get some the same amount of FWHP as the Asian / MiddleEast Maxima's the USA motor needs the variable intake, exhaust, Y-pipe, etc. If this is the case there must be other mods that make their engines make more HP than ours than the VI intake. Can someone shed some light on this ???

VQ30DD???

has anyone tried putting one of those bad boys in a U.S. max?

"The direct injection system can't be used with the fuels available in the US, the sulfur content of gasoline here is too high."


I believe guido_sst posted that earlier.

See here.

2.0, 2.5 and 3.0 JDM motors

you have 155ps @6400rpm, 190nm @ 4400

2.5 has 190ps @6400rpm, 240nm @ 4400

3.0 has 220ps @6400rpm, 285nm @ 4400

After researching this when I was looking for MEVI's, I found this information:

The Maxima in the Middle East, specifically Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Dubai, and Bahrain, comes in 2 trims. (This is also true in New Zealand, don't know where else).

The 3.0 Liter is called in those countries the "Nissan Maxima 3.0GV"

It is 220HP. The MEVI has very little do do with this, as it adds no more than 10HP at the crank. But the Power Curve is substantially different because of it.

What it DOES have to do with is the lack of strict emissions laws there. The cars have NO Catalytic Converters, and a straight through Y-Pipe (Much like the aftermarket ones we buy here).

That is most of the difference, and also different tuning in general on the FI and such.

My question is:
What would a Middle East ECU do to our cars?
I'm thinking about ordering one from my supplier, and doing away with the ad-hock Harlan RPM Switch setup right now used to make the MEVI work.

The 2.5 Liter Engine also has a VI on it, but it is shaped differently, and does not work on the 3.0 Liter (Has round ports instead of oval).

The 2.5 Liter is just called the "Maxima", with no after designation (No SE, GLE, or GXE trims).

There is also a "Nissan Sunny" there, that looks alot like an I30, also with the VQ Engine. Of course, the Maximas there also look more like an I30. (Not sure why they even have the Sunny, when it is so close to the Maxima, and still a Nissan.)

There also is no 5th Gen body style for the Maxima in the ME. The 2002 Maxima there is not 3.5 Liter, and looks pretty much the same as a 1998 Maxima there, except with HIDs. (Can anyone figure out what I'm working on getting next for everyone here?)

IanS

And here's some video of a Maxima in Oman doing reverse doughnust and then bish slapping a Camaro Z28 Auto.

www.cyberhub.net/shared

Now that I think of it, didn't RB habe a merlot maxima????


IanS

Correction - Looks like the 2002/2003 model looks different.

sorry, a little off topic but..those are some SWEET *** rims ian! what are they?

If it is just the different ECU tuning, the lack of emissions equipment, and Variable intake manifold that is the difference between our USA 190 hp and their 220 hp then what we have been doing is pretty good then. I would think that for a 95-96 Maxima the JWT ecu would be the same or better than trying to get a Middle East ECU as our USA gas here does not have as much octane and JWT takes that in consideration. I remember a friend of mine that worked for Ford telling me that the Trucks and cars that they make for the middle east does not have emissions equipment, different tuning for the gas because of the higher octane, etc. Also those trucks and cars were specially labeled and marked so not to be sold in the USA. I would imagine that Nissan probably does the same too. So maybe the limit for bolt ons for a 4th generation Maxima being normally aspirated is about 220-230 crank hp which is not really bad in my opinion.

look like trophy's to me

Yep!

No longer made.

Which is going to suck if I break or bend one too bad.

Pretty accurate though the Nissan Sunny is nothing like an I30 its actually much smaller than a Sentra pretty much a budget car around here. There is a 5th gen body style though the lines are not as bold as the American versions it also has better looking hids and tails in my opinion. Though the US 2k2 hids are quite unique. You are right about the engine no 3.5 engine yet. The Nissan Maximas around here are actually I30s though with relatively different options than the US models. Also the cars here do have cats but the emission regulations are not as strict.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up about the Sunni.

It sure looks like a Maxima/I30. I didn't relaize in the pics I saw it was alot smaller.

IanS

This is not true for japan. I had a Cefiro with the 2.5 VQ and it did have a catalytic converter and pre-cats. I know this because i gutted the main cat.

My Bad. I meant the Saudi Maxima, specifically.

IanS

Cool. I just want to find out the main contributing factors to the power difference. It was easy to get a jap car in NZ but in Australia, it is hard. The NZ and Australian VQ's are so slow in high rpm.

I belive the JWT ECU only works on the 95-96. It also works on the 97 but does not give the same gains. There is no ECU upgrade available for the 98-99.

If the ME Maxima has a Y-pipe without precats it would account for a large part of the higher HP rating. A ME ECU should be designed to work with a free flowing exhaust and the VI . If the octane thing is not a problem this should be great for bolt on VI Maximas. Would the ME ECU have a higher redline because of the VI? Would we pass emissions with this? Any idea on cost?

I only have to do emissions every other year, so I would not mind swapping the ECU for emissions testing.

And now possible factory HIDs for the fourth Gen

Ian, You are the man!!