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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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5pd SE vs. 89 non turbo supra???

my friend has an 89 supra, think i'd beat him with a 96 stock 5pd SE? the reason i ask is because we both raced once from a rolling start but it wasnt really a fair race and as of present day his car sits in the garage with a bad motor leaving both of us wondering who would win...
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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doubt it but maybe

I doubt you would, my friend also drives a 89 non-turbo supra and I believe he dynod around 223 rwhp and its stock. they also weigh like 500+ pounds less than a maxima so, im going to be on the supra. my friends kicked my 99se's **** by like 1 1/2 car lengths from a dead stop. SO it may be a close race depending on your shifting skills and your friends bad motor..My question for you is, instead of asking on here, why not just go race him and find out? Nothing beats first hand knowledge.
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Re: doubt it but maybe

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I doubt you would, my friend also drives a 89 non-turbo supra and I believe he dynod around 223 rwhp and its stock. they also weigh like 500+ pounds less than a maxima so, im going to be on the supra. my friends kicked my 99se's **** by like 1 1/2 car lengths from a dead stop. SO it may be a close race depending on your shifting skills and your friends bad motor..My question for you is, instead of asking on here, why not just go race him and find out? Nothing beats first hand knowledge.
The reason i was asking is because he had a lot of motor problems, he bought cams from a junk yard and it still dipped for a little while but nothing like before and now it sits because of leaking fluids and more knocks in the motor keeping it undrivable...we test drove eachothers cars before and even he admited that the maxima feels a lot stronger in third gear then his car and my opinion after driving his and another of the same style, all around the max feels like it pulls a lot more, anyone out there raced non turbo supra?
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmaxx
I doubt you would, my friend also drives a 89 non-turbo supra and I believe he dynod around 223 rwhp and its stock. they also weigh like 500+ pounds less than a maxima so, im going to be on the supra. my friends kicked my 99se's **** by like 1 1/2 car lengths from a dead stop. SO it may be a close race depending on your shifting skills and your friends bad motor..My question for you is, instead of asking on here, why not just go race him and find out? Nothing beats first hand knowledge.
Unless the non-turbo SUPRA lost 50-60 hp between 89 and 90, all u said is BS. The non-turbo has only 200 hp at the crank and maybe around 170-175 at the wheels so I don't know how he got 233hp on a dyno. Even the turbo has only 232 hp at the crank...
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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Re: Re: doubt it but maybe

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Unless the non-turbo SUPRA lost 50-60 hp between 89 and 90, all u said is BS. The non-turbo has only 200 hp at the crank and maybe around 170-175 at the wheels so I don't know how he got 233hp on a dyno. Even the turbo has only 232 hp at the crank...

well id alos put my money on the supra cause we have one back home and that car flies on the road and yu will hear it if yu have yur windows down i have reached up to a 120mph on that car and was i scared so unless yu have some mods my dough is on the supra
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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Re: Re: doubt it but maybe

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Unless the non-turbo SUPRA lost 50-60 hp between 89 and 90, all u said is BS. The non-turbo has only 200 hp at the crank and maybe around 170-175 at the wheels so I don't know how he got 233hp on a dyno. Even the turbo has only 232 hp at the crank...
I agre those things are dogs and very heavy.
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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nah no bs

****er lied to me, him saying stock means not having a turbo in it yet..gd loser, he has a CAI,Apex'i WS cat back, short throw shifter, and some other ****. His turbo apparently goes in next week heh was awhile since I raced him so either way I could care less if the supra is in good condition i'd still put my money on it.
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Re: doubt it but maybe

Originally posted by Mmmaxx
I doubt you would, my friend also drives a 89 non-turbo supra and I believe he dynod around 223 rwhp and its stock. they also weigh like 500+ pounds less than a maxima so, im going to be on the supra. my friends kicked my 99se's **** by like 1 1/2 car lengths from a dead stop. SO it may be a close race depending on your shifting skills and your friends bad motor..My question for you is, instead of asking on here, why not just go race him and find out? Nothing beats first hand knowledge.

like someone said before.....the base supra is only 200 hp at the crank, and the turbo is 232....and very doubtful that a CAI and exhaust will add 60 hp on a non boosted car.....and also, umm the supra's weigh like 300 lbs more than the maxima, and have less torque.....you musta been smokin some good crack a few minutes ago
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats...tsgivenid.aspx you decide.
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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i dunno...i think it'd be a pretty close race, supra's are a lil heavier then maxima's with around the same horse power, i think a lot of it would come down to driving and since i've only had my car a few months im still not the best driver and hes an incredibly good driver, he made his beat up little crx si non vtec with a short shifter run close to his own supra
Old Jul 20, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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itd be close, but just practices your launches, and dont try anything special (i.e. powershifting)...if you have a decent launch, and shift fast enuff, you should have him, but it would very close since he is a good driver
Old Jul 21, 2002 | 01:00 AM
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Re: Re: Re: doubt it but maybe

windows down i have reached up to a 120mph on that car and was i scared so unless yu have some mods my dough is on the supra [/B][/QUOTE]

your point? i reached 120 in my max anyway i dunno anything bout n/a supras but my friends 89 turbo kicked my ace pretty easily and he wasnt even shifting hard cause his radiator was messed up.
Old Jul 21, 2002 | 01:17 AM
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Re: 5pd SE vs. 89 non turbo supra???

I raced basically the exact same supra with my Intrepid, and I beat it by a car length at from 0-120km/h...it was a non turbo 5 speed...you will beat it for sure, as your car is quicker than mines.
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my friend has an 89 supra, think i'd beat him with a 96 stock 5pd SE? the reason i ask is because we both raced once from a rolling start but it wasnt really a fair race and as of present day his car sits in the garage with a bad motor leaving both of us wondering who would win...
Old Jul 21, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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Re: Re: 5pd SE vs. 89 non turbo supra???

Originally posted by kingrukus
I raced basically the exact same supra with my Intrepid, and I beat it by a car length at from 0-120km/h...it was a non turbo 5 speed...you will beat it for sure, as your car is quicker than mines.
thats pretty awesome dude, my last car was a concorde with the same 3.5 in it, i didnt think it was that quick lol
Old Jul 21, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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Where the heck do you get your information from? Supra weighing 500lbs less than a Maxima? wtf? 233hp at the wheels with basic breathing mods? wtf? I think you need to do a little research...

89 N/a supra weighs 3500lbs, and has a paltry 200hp at the crank to carry around all that weight, which translates to 170ish at the wheels. Stock for stock, a 96 SE 5spd will walk all over an NA 89 Supra.
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