SupermaxGxe

I have a 97 Max and want to know if the 2000 and 2001 engines fit, because I'm thinking about rebuilding or buying a new engine before I start adding any mods, but if I can upgrade then that would be an even better start.

tmkforever

Search. http://forums.maxima.org/search.php

-Jon

Nealoc187

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No the 2000+ intake manifold won't fit under the hood. If you are serious about building a motor, do a little research and you will find that the 95-99 engine has every bit as much potential as the 2000-2001 engine, without the headaches of swapping, wiring, etc.

SupermaxGxe

Thanks. Do you know of any mods I can do internally while rebuilding the engine and not just bolt on's?

Kevlo911

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get the MEVI, to get the same power as 2k1 also if u want engine swap do the DET swap like tillies did

Jamsan

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whats the big deal with the DET anyways.....dont tell me to search plz

Nealoc187

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hmmm lemme think... 280 hp and 280tq stock and the upgradeability of a stock turbo. That about sums it up.

dwapenyi

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The DET is JDM spec, right?? That motor never touched down in any Nissan motor in the good ole USA. So, US emissions may be a problem, I would think. No?

DW

Nealoc187

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I'm sure that is an accurate assumption. Tillys99 just swapped one in his... ask him what he's planning on doing about emissions. Hes in PA, not sure if they have emissions tests there.

brianw

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IIRC, VQ30DET is only available in a RWD application.

JWT tried to convert one to a FWD application (specifically a gen4 Maxima, IIRC they did this sometime in 1997 or so) and THE BLOCK WOULD NOT FIT. They had to machine the block to get it to fit.

I believe Tilley didn't actually fit the DET block, but he swapped over alllllllllllllllllllllll the DET parts into his DE block. Same end result, only that "DET parts into DE block" is a better description than a "DET swap".

Nealoc187

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I think you are probably right... I recall that they were only available in RWD configuration as well. However I was judging by his post as of recently in which he said "my DET up and running" or something to that effect assuming he had done a complete swap not a DE to DET parts conversion.

SupermaxGxe

Where do I get the parts so I can swap all the stuff.

brianw

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Parts for what? You don't need to swap DET parts into a DE motor to do a turbo. If you're serious about power, turbocharge or supercharge your car and THEN see how much more power you want.

A built motor does not equal more power. It allows more power to be made potentially, but does not itself create more power. If you're going to swap DET parts into your DE without a turbo, you'll be disappointed.

SleeperSE

- If you want to mod the inside of your engine, you could get new pistons and rods. Go to a higher compression ratio piston (10.5:1) for a naturally aspirated car, or a lower compression ratio piston (9.0:1) for a forced induction car. Stronger rods will help.

- Then, you could port and polish the heads. They flow pretty well right now, but there's always room for improvement.

- Then, you could get the JWT cams, the MEVI, a supercharger, or a turbo.


- Hey, does anyone know what the VQ30DET came in?

SpeedCrazie

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So then there is no way to work around the 2000+ maxima manifold? I am coming up on a rebuild and rather do the swap. I mean low miles plus a 32 horsepower gain. I am serious about doing this engine swap. If anyone can point me in the right direction it would help me out a ton. Thanks.

SpeedCrazie

dwapenyi

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I think european versions of the 1st gen Q45 may have had that motor.

DW

Mr Cranman

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Gloria/Cedric here is an engine catalog http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...nes/home.shtml
this is a nice place to look at all the new stuff.

-John

333matt333

i have a 97 and am in the process of putting in a 2000 motor. ill let everyone know how it goes.

DAREN

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if for some reason you cannot find a suitable 4th gen VQ all you would have to do is remove the 5th gen intake manifold/TB and use the ones from your current engine. that will also help to eliminte a lot of your electrical gremlins since there are a fair amount of sensors that are hooked up the upper intake manifold. be mindful of the other sensors in the engine bay: coolant,oxygen,crank,cam etc etc.. try to use sensors from the 4th gen motor.


or you can wait till 333matt333 gets his VQ-K running.
"i have a 97 and am in the process of putting in a 2000 motor. ill let everyone know how it goes"

SpeedCrazie

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Thanks for your reply, I am still debating this and will proabably wait til the swap has been done. If I was to use my manifold wouldn't that eliminate some of the extra power produced by the new engine?

Thanks agian,

~SpeedCrazie

DAREN

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yes