venompwr2

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I was on the thruway tonight going to my aunts house, and a maxima came flying up behind me, it was a 97-99 model, the only mod I could tell he had was a muffler and it was lowered, we were dead even and then both took off, he kept pulling on me and I never caught up with him and let off at 90. I only have the intake, but unless he had some more mods, I wouldnt think he'd be that much faster with the rear section.

maximamoose

are you auto. do you think that he was stick?

venompwr2

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yes I am auto, and I think he was stick based on the way the shifts looked......he had some ***** too, he was going about 100mph past the ny state trooper station. I'm sure that made a difference too with the trannies....either way i think he had some more mods

maximamoose

how fast were you going when you started the race. if he dropped a gear or two, he would have left you standing still.

venompwr2

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the speed limit was 55, we started at about 70, and i didnt turn off my o/d so it was still in 4th

maximamoose

he probably dropped into 3rd. advantage to him, and he didn't look back

venompwr2

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AH damn my auto!!!! I want a 5 speed!! we have a 2k max also, but its an auto as well........it can still move pretty good though, will take mine no problem

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

Then something is wrong with your car. Take it to a dealer and get it checked.
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

how do u figure there is something wrong with my car?? i would expect a 2k max to beat a 95 with just an intake on it....

maximamoose

4th gen max = 190 hp
2000 max = 220 hp

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

exactly....it has much more horsepower, and i have an intake but that isnt going to give me enough power....i'm looking at a frankencar midpipe and a stillen y pipe for a few more ponies

maximamoose

theres nothing wrong with his car. a 2000 max SHOULD take a 95 max no prob. his car is fine

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

4th Gen max = 2900 lbs
5th Gen max = 3300? lbs

Most people here will tell you it should either be a VERY close race or the 4th Gen will win. I myself have raced a '00 automatic and I pulled kept my 1 car lead on him up to 60MpH. I only have HAI.
-Cyrus

venompwr2

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I've never raced our other max, but i drive it a lot, and i can feel A LOT more power in it, plus i can smoke the tires like hell, i can only get a little tiny squeel out of my 95

maximamoose

i raced a 2000 auto with my, at the time, stock 97 5 spd. i beat him. i am not saying that it can't happen, i am just saying that the max should beat him both being auto.

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

Well if you take them head to head you will see. You may be able to spin the tires easier because they are cheaper and don't have as much traction, but nonetheless it is NO faster than yours.
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

ok well it sure as hell feels faster......i'm not going to argue. i am a dumb *** when it comes to racing, i always try to take on things waaaaay out of our class (M3's, Camaros, mercedes AMG....its just for fun) I would just have to say that with oh 30 more horses that it can surely pull on mine. I'll have to try a head to head race in our max's sometime soon

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

here is what i do know, with my stillen intake, or from whatever reason, i dont have as much low end power in first gear (i'm hoping that midpipe might fix it) so as my car is now, the 2k can take me.

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

Like I said I have an HAI too and I still took that Max. You should pull up him up high RPMs because you can rev higher than he can. Like I said if you are honestly getting smoked then something is wrong with your car. Wait a little while and hopefully somebody will back me up here. BTW the guy I raced is asianracer2004 on AIM, so when he logs on you can ask him the outcome of his race with Cyrus. He's not on now though and I doubt he'll log on until tomorrow.
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

ok I have NOT yet raced a 2k+ max head to head, only driven them separatly...so i dont have actualy proof its going to smoke me or not

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

I understand but you say the 2k Max should be able to roast you. It should not. So something might be wrong with you car (KS, clogged filter, etc.). Also I hope I didn't just start a flame war...
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

no u didnt....i think the knock sensor is fine but i think my fuel filter is clogged and needs to be replaced and i'm due for an oil change in 100 miles.....oh this is my first oil change in my max (only had this one 3 months) do u guys use synthetic oils in urs? like mobile one???

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

this is probally on the faq, but how would i know if my KS is the problem??? is that one of the codes if i check the ECU??

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

I use Valvoline All-Climate. I'm not the man to talk to about Oil analysis, but this might help you.

As for the flame war, you never know when the 5th Gens might find this thread. I don't want another one of these episodes (although that thread might interest you). If you KS was failing you car would be very sluggish and the Check Engine light would pop on (I believe).
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

hmmmmm then which forum should i be on...considering we have a 4th and 5th gen????

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

The better Gen. You choose.
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

ahhhh so ur saying stay with this one....well technically I should be in the 4th since its my car, and the 5th isnt my own

Vyrus

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venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

the only thing i like better about the 5th gen, well the 2k3 is the headlights, those are pretty sweet!

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

Yes I agree, but I'm glad to see you picked the 4th Gen. I couldn't care less what the reason is, just glad to see another supporter. And I like the interior of the 5th Gen a little more too.
-Cyrus

Miasma

stick vs. stick, i have beaten several 2k/2k1 max's, never tried 2k2/3, but i am pretty sure they would pull on me stock.

krbga

....the 1977 Mustang is better than the 1967 Mustang.

....the 1984 Corvette is better than the 1963 Corvette.

....the 1986 Z is better than the 1970 Z. enjoy the ride.

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

not to be picky....but on those comparasins, an 84 vette sucks, they have no value, so the older one is probally better

although, i wouldnt mind having 255hp stock on hand either

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

more people need to have max mods out here.....its all adults driving them, i'm one of the fewer younger people in my area driving one.....gets a lot of looks though

Craig Mack

[Newbie Enthusiast]Da 2k MaXy haZ 30 MoE HorsePOWAH theN da 95 so lIke it sHould whoop itz aZz dood no probluM![/Newbie Enthusiast]

I really hate when people say "No way, it's got X more HP it would take you out!" Power to weight ratio is what matters, and the 4th Gen max has the edge here. A '95 Max would take a 2k off the line easily and beat it to sixty. It is roughly .2-.4 faster 0-60 then the 2k auto. Fatness and a revv limiter kill the 2k. 2k auto max = Torqueless wonder

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

Thankyou Craig.
-Cyrus

venompwr2

iTrader: (27)

alright, well i'm just having lots of trouble understanding that i can take the 2k to 60...especially with my automagic....but I'll have to give on a run on the street and see who wins

Craig Mack

See, i'm still lookin' out for the auto 4th gen.'s

Craig Mack

Just becuase YOU can't take one doesn't mean 4th Gens aren't quicker. Your car could have many problems...could have dirty air/fuel/oil filters, bad knock sensors, bad plugs, ect. If your car doesn't feel faster off the line then a 2k, check your throttle body becuase it might be gunked up. If it's really dirty it will hinder some performance. The 2k will have significantly less wear on it then your '95, so some major tune-ups may be needed.

Vyrus

iTrader: (4)

You see venompwr2, Craig obviously didn't see my post on the previous page, yet he gave you more or less the same diagnosis I did.
-Cyrus