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Old Sep 1, 2002 | 12:56 AM
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anyone in here have a stillen exaust? if so how do you like it? or dislike it? im lookin for a deep sound, if anyone has any other sugestions id like to hear them, im just looking for exaust for now, no y pipe or anything yet? and is a universal exaust worse in any ways?
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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Re: stillen

Originally posted by NisMouNtaIndEw
anyone in here have a stillen exaust? if so how do you like it? or dislike it? im lookin for a deep sound, if anyone has any other sugestions id like to hear them, im just looking for exaust for now, no y pipe or anything yet? and is a universal exaust worse in any ways?
i have stillen y-pipe and cat back... it is definitely deep and alittle louder... but the cat back alone won't be too loud... i love mine although alot of people also like the greddy sp... alittle quieter and a sleeker look... thinner tip as apposed to the bullnose tip from stillen... good luck
Old Sep 2, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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Re: Re: stillen

It's a lot louder. IMO, as well as the majority of stillen parts, for the price -- it's not worth paying the extra money for.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 06:43 PM
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i got the stillen catback and i love it. i think it sounds great at idle and even better at wot, you can hear progressively louder until 2000 rpms but after that the engine roar takes over.
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It was too loud for me, but I have a y-pipe, b-pipe, RT cat and no resonator.

I pulled the Stillen off and replaced with an oem muff and added a 3.5" SS tip. The tone & loudness is just right for my taste.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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you still got it and wanna sell it?
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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you still got it and wanna sell it?

Sorry - just shipped it to DCMax today!!
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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The stillen is deep. If you wana go a little more low but still look and sound good go with the Greddy. I have it and with a y-pipe it sounds heavenly. Thats just my 2 cents worth.
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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The stillen is deep. If you wana go a little more low but still look and sound good go with the Greddy. I have it and with a y-pipe it sounds heavenly. Thats just my 2 cents worth.
the greddy is really lowder?
Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:35 PM
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the greddy is really lowder?
I think what he means is the GReddy has a deeper tone - not as raspy as the Stillen.
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One of the welds is loose in my stillen exhaust and it sound like crap at times. Has this happened to anyone else? The pipe isn't new by any means but, it shouldn't have done that...
Old Sep 4, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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how do you like your stillen exaust?
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Originally posted by NisMouNtaIndEw
how do you like your stillen exaust?
I'm was very happy with it. Still am, until it makes that damn vibrating noise.
Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by MadMax95
One of the welds is loose in my stillen exhaust and it sound like crap at times. Has this happened to anyone else? The pipe isn't new by any means but, it shouldn't have done that...
Mine does a little "raspy" sound also around 2K RPM. One can't notice it much in the car but I had my brother rev the car when I was standing behind it and it does it outside the car some. Sounds like something's loose. I never noticed it until I put my Y-pipe on too. Maybe with the overall noise level alot higher (with the addition of the Y-pipe), the raspy noise is more noticeable. Other than that, I don't have complaints. I'm going to try and troubleshoot where the noise is coming from when I get some free time.

But at WOT, the car sounds great, IMO! It gets some looks from people wondering why a sedan is making a deep sound like that.
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Mine does a little "raspy" sound also around 2K RPM. One can't notice it much in the car but I had my brother rev the car when I was standing behind it and it does it outside the car some. Sounds like something's loose. I never noticed it until I put my Y-pipe on too. Maybe with the overall noise level alot higher (with the addition of the Y-pipe), the raspy noise is more noticeable. Other than that, I don't have complaints. I'm going to try and troubleshoot where the noise is coming from when I get some free time.

But at WOT, the car sounds great, IMO! It gets some looks from people wondering why a sedan is making a deep sound like that.
i am about to get a y pipe and b pipe for my car. i would like warpspeed, but the place i went to suggested stillen y with greddy cat-back. they want 350 for the stillen y, and 599 for the greddy. they also want 125 for total install. should i get the stillen y and greddy exhaust, or go with wpspd y and b.
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Originally posted by maximamoose

i am about to get a y pipe and b pipe for my car. i would like warpspeed, but the place i went to suggested stillen y with greddy cat-back. they want 350 for the stillen y, and 599 for the greddy. they also want 125 for total install. should i get the stillen y and greddy exhaust, or go with wpspd y and b.

Don't solicit advice from parts dealers on what's best for your car - often times, they don't actually know. They're just trying to move product. Do your research here on the .org & make an educated decision based on the opinions of consumers who have actually run with these parts. That way, you're more likely to be happy with the outcome.

Btw, those prices seem HIGH - check into the Warpspeed aluminized or stainless mandrel-bent Y. Much more affordable than the Stillen & reviews on this pipe have been great. I like the GReddy cat-back though - just try to find a better price or pick one up second-hand.

(When I do exhaust eventually, it will be between the GReddy & Apexi -Apexi is supposedly a little quieter).

Keep in mind - if you pair any Y-pipe w/ a full cat-back (w/ aftermarket b-pipe, not just a muffler), you can expect much higher noise levels inside the car than stock. For this reason, many have chosen to keep the stock b-pipe in place to tone down exhaust noise in the cabin. Still, many people chose to learn the lesson the hard way, switching back to a stock B, after realizing how loud their car was after the install. Go to the regional forums & try to get in touch w/ someone who has a setup similar to what you're considering - maybe you can set up a meet to hear their car.

Good luck!

PS: I realize most people do exhaust more for sound & looks than power, but you should keep in mind the horsepower to dollar ratio. For less than the $ you're considering spending on exhaust mods, you could pick up a MEVI (Middle East Variable Intake) and add 25-28hp with no other changes. (This is a job for the semi-serious DIY-er, of course) The exhaust mods you're considering may net you 12-18 hp or so. . . Do the math!

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Keep in mind - if you pair any Y-pipe w/ a full cat-back (w/ aftermarket b-pipe, not just a muffler), you can expect much higher noise levels inside the car than stock. For this reason, many have chosen to keep the stock b-pipe in place to tone down exhaust noise in the cabin. Still, many people chose to learn the lesson the hard way, switching back to a stock B, after realizing how loud their car was after the install.
With the Stillen Y, Courtesy B, and Stillen Exhaust, it is loud but I still haven't learned my lesson...

Old Sep 5, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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With the Stillen Y, Courtesy B, and Stillen Exhaust, it is loud but I still haven't learned my lesson...

Yep, all a matter of preference. I once read on the .org where someone actually took off an aftermarket y-pipe, (returned to stock) because they thought the y-pipe alone (only exhaust mod) made the car too noisy. Go figure.

Enjoy the ride!

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...if I added a stillen Y-pipe, B-pipe and a high-flow cat, but kept the stock muffler would the car be loud? Also do any companys make headers for a 99 maxima?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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...if I added a stillen Y-pipe, B-pipe and a high-flow cat, but kept the stock muffler would the car be loud? Also do any companys make headers for a 99 maxima?
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No, not loud at all. A little "raspy" is all. I have the exact setup you outlined above on my '95.

I couldn't tell you who, but someone does make headers for the Max.

I don't think you will find anyone here that will recommend headers on this board because they add very, very little benefit.
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No, not loud at all. A little "raspy" is all. I have the exact setup you outlined above on my '95.

I couldn't tell you who, but someone does make headers for the Max.

I don't think you will find anyone here that will recommend headers on this board because they add very, very little benefit.
alright, how about this. wpspd y and b. would that be raspy, or what do they sound like? stock muffler.
Old Sep 5, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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mmm i would go something else
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mmm i would go something else
are you responding to the wpspd, or something else. if you are responding to the wpspd, please let me know what you suggest
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what exactly is he talking about?
"For less than the $ you're considering spending on exhaust mods, you could pick up a MEVI (Middle East Variable Intake) and add 25-28hp with no other changes. (This is a job for the semi-serious DIY-er, of course) The exhaust mods you're considering may net you 12-18 hp or so. . . Do the math! "

what is this where do u get it and how much does it cost? link?
plus ive been thinkin of goin with stillen catback or greddy, what kind of input do you guys have on those compared. im lookin for power but more importantly (to me) a deep sound something thats low at idle
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Originally posted by NisMouNtaIndEw
what exactly is he talking about?
"For less than the $ you're considering spending on exhaust mods, you could pick up a MEVI (Middle East Variable Intake) and add 25-28hp with no other changes. (This is a job for the semi-serious DIY-er, of course) The exhaust mods you're considering may net you 12-18 hp or so. . . Do the math! "

what is this where do u get it and how much does it cost? link?
plus ive been thinkin of goin with stillen catback or greddy, what kind of input do you guys have on those compared. im lookin for power but more importantly (to me) a deep sound something thats low at idle
"SEARCH" is YOUR FRIEND:

http://forums.maxima.org/search.php

Where 2 buy a MEVI:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ariable+intake

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....highlight=MEVI

Very important thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ariable+intake
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Originally posted by amb4081


Mine does a little "raspy" sound also around 2K RPM. One can't notice it much in the car but I had my brother rev the car when I was standing behind it and it does it outside the car some. Sounds like something's loose. I never noticed it until I put my Y-pipe on too. Maybe with the overall noise level alot higher (with the addition of the Y-pipe), the raspy noise is more noticeable. Other than that, I don't have complaints. I'm going to try and troubleshoot where the noise is coming from when I get some free time.

But at WOT, the car sounds great, IMO! It gets some looks from people wondering why a sedan is making a deep sound like that.

Hey guys I'm Joe and I'm from Chicago IL. I have a 99 Max SE with the Stillen Y-pipe, R/T cat, Stillen B-pipe and Stillen rear section. And that raspy sound you talk of? Does it sound like a piece of metal flapping rapidly? Cuz that's the sound my car makes also. I don't really hear that noise on the open road as much I notice it more when I drive through my subdivision and the noise echoes between the house and my car. To me it sounds like a gasket from the from or rear of the cat. And that noise didn't start until I put my Y-Pipe on and my R/T cat. I'm also looking into where the noise is coming from because for what I paid for my exahust from Stillen it better be making the right sound!! All input is greatly appreeciated!

~Joe~
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Originally posted by StillenMaxSE99



Hey guys I'm Joe and I'm from Chicago IL. I have a 99 Max SE with the Stillen Y-pipe, R/T cat, Stillen B-pipe and Stillen rear section. And that raspy sound you talk of? Does it sound like a piece of metal flapping rapidly? Cuz that's the sound my car makes also. I don't really hear that noise on the open road as much I notice it more when I drive through my subdivision and the noise echoes between the house and my car. To me it sounds like a gasket from the from or rear of the cat. And that noise didn't start until I put my Y-Pipe on and my R/T cat. I'm also looking into where the noise is coming from because for what I paid for my exahust from Stillen it better be making the right sound!! All input is greatly appreeciated!

~Joe~
That is the sound that I have...
It sounds like one of the welds inside the pipe has come loose and now that little resonator inside is vibrating to all hell...
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That is the sound that I have...
It sounds like one of the welds inside the pipe has come loose and now that little resonator inside is vibrating to all hell...

What little resonator thing are you talking about? and which weld are you talking about....because I spent damn well near 1G to put this Stillen exhaust in my ride and I'm gonna be ****ed if a weld is broken!!!!!

~Joe~
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Originally posted by StillenMaxSE99



What little resonator thing are you talking about? and which weld are you talking about....because I spent damn well near 1G to put this Stillen exhaust in my ride and I'm gonna be ****ed if a weld is broken!!!!!

~Joe~
Look inside the pipe, you should see a piece of rolled steel with holes in it inside the muffler. That's what I meant by resonator. I'm guessing one of the welds that holds the resonator broke off and that is what the vibrating noise is.
Old Sep 20, 2002 | 01:48 PM
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Apexi

I'd suggest a Apexi cat back if you want a deep tone but don't want the louder Stillen or Greddy. Been really happy with the Apexi. I also have the Catman Y and an RT cat.
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What little resonator thing are you talking about? and which weld are you talking about....because I spent damn well near 1G to put this Stillen exhaust in my ride and I'm gonna be ****ed if a weld is broken!!!!!

~Joe~
Dude - there's nothing wrong with your pipe other than you don't like the raspy sound. The "raspy" sound (or bee's in a can sound) is a feature provided courtesy of $tillen.

There are many on this board that have a $tillen y-pipe installed that included this "feature".

Functionally there is nothing wrong, it's just a bad design. Bad, that is, if you don't like the sound.

Do a search on "bees in a can" and you should find what others have done to fix the problem.

I'm going to try header wrap (around the y-pipe flex joint) when I have the time to fool with it.
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Look inside the pipe, you should see a piece of rolled steel with holes in it inside the muffler. That's what I meant by resonator. I'm guessing one of the welds that holds the resonator broke off and that is what the vibrating noise is.

Look inside which pipe?? The tip of the muffler??

~Joe~
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Dude - there's nothing wrong with your pipe other than you don't like the raspy sound. The "raspy" sound (or bee's in a can sound) is a feature provided courtesy of $tillen.

There are many on this board that have a $tillen y-pipe installed that included this "feature".

Functionally there is nothing wrong, it's just a bad design. Bad, that is, if you don't like the sound.

Do a search on "bees in a can" and you should find what others have done to fix the problem.

I'm going to try header wrap (around the y-pipe flex joint) when I have the time to fool with it.

So if I found someone with the same setup as mine....their car would make the same exact noise?? and what would the header wrap do?

~Joe~
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So if I found someone with the same setup as mine....their car would make the same exact noise?? and what would the header wrap do?

~Joe~

I would say there would be a 90% chance that yes, they would have the same noise.

I have seen this same complaint on the .org, time after time with the Stillen y-pipe.

If you do a search, you will see what I'm talking about.

The header wrap has been used by some to wrap the flex joint on the y-pipe. I don't know if it just muffles the sound or compresses the flex joint to where it doesn't vibrate.

I haven't done this yet, so I don't have first hand knowledge as to whether it really works or not.
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I could be wrong but I thought it was the mufler making the noise.

I haven't had it since I put the Y on, it's something that has recently started.
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Originally posted by MadMax95
I could be wrong but I thought it was the mufler making the noise.

I haven't had it since I put the Y on, it's something that has recently started.

What is your exact exhaust set up?
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What is your exact exhaust set up?
Stillen Y, Courtesy B, Stillen Exhaust.
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Stillen Y, Courtesy B, Stillen Exhaust.
Interesting. I have a Stillen y, Stillen B, RT Cat and an oem muff.

I originally had a Stillen muff and still had the raspy, bees-n-a-can sound. It wasn't as prevalent with the Stillen, maybe because the Stillen is soooo much louder than the oem muff.

StillenMaxSE has the exact same set up that I used to have and gets the raspy sound too.

You have basically the same set up (other than the b-pipe - you didn't mention the cat) and don't get the sound.

That's why I was saying that the raspy sound maybe affects 90% of those with the Stillen y. And yes, I did pull the 90% number out of my a$$. I just know that it seems to be a very common problem.

I'll post back here when I try the header wrap on the flex joint and let you guys know if it solves the problem.
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Originally posted by PhatBastard


Interesting. I have a Stillen y, Stillen B, RT Cat and an oem muff.

I originally had a Stillen muff and still had the raspy, bees-n-a-can sound. It wasn't as prevalent with the Stillen, maybe because the Stillen is soooo much louder than the oem muff.

StillenMaxSE has the exact same set up that I used to have and gets the raspy sound too.

You have basically the same set up (other than the b-pipe - you didn't mention the cat) and don't get the sound.

That's why I was saying that the raspy sound maybe affects 90% of those with the Stillen y. And yes, I did pull the 90% number out of my a$$. I just know that it seems to be a very common problem.

I'll post back here when I try the header wrap on the flex joint and let you guys know if it solves the problem.


My setup uses the OEM cat...

Let us know how the header wrap works...

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I just put a Stllen B and Stillen Muffler in this weekend along with my already installed Stillen Y, RT cat. It is loud and drones hardcore between 2K and 2.7K rpm. I don't like the drone and I'm trying to get rid of it. And no, I don't have my stock B and stock muffler anymore, so I have to fix the noise w/ what I have. Don't get me wrong, when I had my girlfriend floored the car from stand still while I'm standing on the side of the road, it sounds AWESOME!!! Very very AWESOME!!! But just that I would like it to calm down a bit and especially the drone. I'm looking into putting a resonator on the B-pipe. I know.... it's kinda oxymoron to think you bought an aftermarket B-pipe so to cut it and put a resonator back on it. But I love the look of the Stillen muffler, and don't want to get rid of it. What do you guys all think regarding putting a resonator in the Stillen B???? Would that work well? I was told to put a resonator/glasspack in the B and it improves a whole lot. Anyone has this setup? As for the raspy or bees in the can sound, yeah I get it but it's not very noticable and isn't as big of a deal to me than the drone.

thanks in advance for all the help. Sorry for the long post.

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