so i am on my way home from school, just dropped my g/f off and am now taking my little sister and cousin home. i come to a light where there are 2 lanes.i am in the left and no one is in the right. well once you pass the intersection the right lane merges in. then this big silverado pulls behind me, rims, exhaust, intake and some mexican writting on the windshield banner. when the light turns he swerves on the side of me and i didnt notice at first (i thought he was turning) so he floors it trying to get next to me, well i give it gas so he can pull behind me, what does he do?? keep on the pedal, and i couldnt slow down to let him infront cuz he would have hit my side, so i pull into oncomming traffic and hit it to get around him, this dumb f*ck still thinks were going at it. so i put the pedal to the floor and burn his a** with just enough room to get around him before i was in a head on collision. so just because some guy is ignorant and has something to prove he almost killed himself, me my sister, cousin and someone i could hit head on thank god for the top end power of the maxima. otherwise this my be a different story. i plan on finding this f*cker and introdicing his car with a key or bat. what do u guys think?? bad idea?? o should i just punch him in the face?
sorry its so long, just had to vent

Get a gun instead. A fist or a bat and he can still get up. Key up his car and he can fix it.

Shoot him in the head and it's the end for him.

Well ... unless you somehow miss like Amy Fisher did ... hmmm ... on second thought, get a shotgun instead. Can't miss with a shotgun.

Was something wrong with your brake pedal?

Isn't this advocating illegal activities?

You guys know why this happened right?

He didn't get a chance to post a "4-gen maxima vs Silverado, how would I do" post.

Yeah ... I guess so. But then again, us moderators are hypocrites, so it's ok.

Woooo! Mod fest!

was it in mexican characters? did u have to consult a mexican dictionary to see what it said? j/k

but seriously, i wouldnt wanna mess with a guy like that.. it wasnt your fault that he made you go into oncoming traffic, but i'd just find some way to let him pass by and not risk my own or other people's lives...

I was thinking the same thing. DTR- when something like this happens, just let him get ahead of you. I mean, why do you feel the need to show you're tougher and more badass than him, not letting him go ahead. Next time, just hit the brakes and let him pass, don't make it a competition. Save your pride-and your life.

Guys im not trying to be a D*^K to anyone but try reading the whole post before you respond he stated "He did not have enough room to brake the guy would have hit his side," and there are some things called reactions you do what you think you need to do, when there is something on the road what do you instantly do? When someones mashing it trying to cut in front of you and its going from 2 lanes to 1 very fast your gonna be pretty scared.

i seriously wonder what would happen if you and the guy were to hit the exact point where the two lanes merge and be side by side .. (i have to do this kind of merge every time i go home)
he'd either ram into your side, or go on the curb/grass...
you'd like to think he'd jus f*ck up and go on the grass but what if he doesnt? he could smash you.

so you do what you think you need to do man- its jus too bad it had to come to that.
though its kind of outrageous, the moderators werent there so they wouldnt know what went thru your head

From what I have read, he had at least two chances to use his brakes vs smashing the throttle and or going into the next lane. If he had used his brakes, he would have been next to the silverado alot less of the time and wouldn't have to go into the oncoming traffic. BTW, what would have been the worse outcome if there was an accident. Let the Silverado hit him or hit an oncoming car head on while you have the gas pedal mashed? As for the severity of the crashes, oncoming traffic will double the impact speed (assume the two cars are traveling the same but opposite direction)

The whole post is filled with wrong decesions.

instead of putting the petal down, why didn't you just slow down, sounds like you're putting people in danger, not flaming, but maybe you should think for yourself and your g/f if something get's out of control

I aggree with Jeff92se.

At least he's willing to admit that he's a "stupid a** driver"

-Sryth...
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... is also the perfect subject for those of you that don't know when to let off the gas pedal and street race.

Tifosi

well sure some of these people that try to pass you on the merge like the silverado are crazy, but you dont expect them to be so crazy that youd be pushed into the oncoming lane.
i dont think dtr was trying to be a MAN and keep the lead, he was just thinking of letting the guy in behind him, but the dude didnt take the cue.
he couldve let off the gas, i give you all that, but again, you dont expect people to be so crazy, no matter how much in a rush they look.

you moderators are pretty funny. in all seriousness, i probably would have done the same thing. when some things happen, you don't always have time to think. all of you guys should stop flaming dtr. i have had several encounters like this with a kid from 2 doors down. he is usually stoned or drunk when it happens though. he has had 4 car crashes, 1 confiscated for narcotics possession, and a few dui's. anymore, if i see him driving, i just let him by, not knowing whether he is drunk or not. i don't want to get in an accident. my point is that sometimes decisions are made hastily, because there is not enough time for alternative options

Slowing down is rarely a bad option. Nailing the gas is often a bad option. As far as hasty decisions are concerned, the brakes should enter your mind as an option before the gas.

He might have had to go into oncoming traffic to avoid being hit by the Silverado, but he could have slowed down through it all, and pulled behind him.

-Sryth...
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Slowing down is rarely a bad option. Nailing the gas is often a bad option. As far as hasty decisions are concerned, the brakes should enter your mind as an option before the gas.

He might have had to go into oncoming traffic to avoid being hit by the Silverado, but he could have slowed down through it all, and pulled behind him.

-Sryth...
he did say that at one point, that if he did slow down, the guy would have nailed his side. granted, that was after the whole thing started, but he stated in the beginning that when the guy swerved, he thought that maybe the guy was going to make a turn! i don't think that he would have knowingly endangered his cousin and sister

"i couldnt slow down to let him infront cuz he would have hit my side, so i pull into oncomming traffic and hit it to get around him"

How about going into the oncoming traffic lane to avoid being hit, but then hitting the brakes, instead of the gas, in order to pull in behind him? That's what should've been done. If he didn't know that what he did was dangerous, then he doesn't belong behind the wheel of a car. (IMO)

I personally think that the both drivers were being ********.

-Sryth...
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Whatever the situation...keying his car or hitting with a bat isn't really going to accomplish anything. Everyone makes bad decisions on the road, and it isn't always easy to figure who is to blame. I pull beside people in situations very similar to that... as the truck did .. just because I don't like driving behind people. Most of the time people let me by, but every once in a while they think I am trying to race and situations like your's occur. It's no reason to flip out though. Just accept that something ****ty happened on the road and move on.

Agreed, 100% I got the impression he was trying to show the other guy who's boss by nailing it to get around him on the opposite side of the road. He should have, like you said, swerved into other lane (if no other option but being hit) let the truck pass, and quickly get back in. Accelerating against oncoming traffic in ANY situation is NO good.

DTR Maxima meet Mr. Brake Pedal, Mr. Brake Pedal meet DTR Maxima, I would like to officially introduce you to each other, I know Mr. Brake Pedal had a fight w/ Mr. Gas Pedal, but it's time to put this behind us and have DTR Maxima use Mr. Brake Pedal as often as he feels needed

If the excuse for poor decision making behind the wheel is "when some things happen, you don't always have time to think", you probably shouldn't be on the road then.

if a deer crosses right infront of you, what do you do? there are four options in this scenario. 1.) hit the deer 2.)swerve into oncoming traffic 3.) slam the brakes and possibly get hit by a car behind you. 4.) drive your car into the ditch, and maybe hit some trees. which is the right decision??

Easy. Move to California where there are no deer.

In that scenario, you have no control. In the original scenario, you have all the control in the world. I'd probably brake and steer right though.

for those of you that stuck up for me, i say thank you, sincerly. for those that were complete assh*les, i say screw you. maybe u didnt read where i said, i thought he was turning and he pulled into a merging lane, if i were to hit the brake, his merging lane was ending and he would have hit my side. and when i pulled into oncomming traffic, there were no cars coming, i felt it was safer to pull into there than risk him hittting me. he was at like my back door the whole time, so i had to hit the gas to get ALL THE WAY in front of him so i was in the clear. u guys can be just as ignorant as the guy in the silverado. i feel i made a d*mn good decision. hitting the breaks would have resulted in an accident considering i didnt know he was in the merging lane until he was pulling up along side in the an ALREADY half merged lane. i avoided an accident and got out safely, and most of all didnt hurt other (thank god) and for the people saying "i need to put my pride aside" i had my little sister and my little cousin in the car. ill be d*mned before i put their lives in danger for my "pride" i was trying to avoid hurting them and i thought i did a good job for the most part. i just wrote this to vent a little not to be called a bad driver! if anyone else thinks different that your problem.
once again, thank you to all that stood up for me.

Temper temper. Are you gonna find me and key my car now?

I don't really know what this scenario has to do with the aforementioned situation. Having said that, I've always been told that the best thing to do when you see a deer in the road is to apply the brakes (people shouldn't be riding your ***) and stay on course. You will maintain some semblance of control over the vehicle. If you swerve, there's no telling what could happen. I don't know about you, but I'd rather hit a deer than, say, a tree or an oncoming vehicle.

-Sryth...
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is it really worth the time to type and submit a post just to be a smart guy?
maybe going into oncoming lane is extreme, but he was the only one of us that was actually there. so he's the only one that knows the scene.
personally, if he was pushing at me from the merging lane, i would say he can go ***k himself and stay firm in my lane. from the merge lane he has no right to do that.

dtr, next time man, just go slow at the merge to make sure any jerkofffs in a rush can get outt of the way before they cause a problem-

btw- what do you guys do in deer situations?

You could have gone into the other lane and slowed down. You could have been more attentive to what other cars are doing and made a better decision. There were cars coming because you just said you had to swerve to advoid a head on accident correct??

If you don't like constructive criticism, don't post your experiences.

in my case, if this happened to me, and i did the "go into other lane and slow down then re-enter" method, it wouldnt work for me because there would definetely be another car in my lane and i wouldnt be able to re-enter. and they probably wouldnt even slow down to let me in. people are so nice around my area
i gotta move

Look, I mean no harm. I'm glad it worked out. But consider this. Go over the list of decesions he made and then ask yourself, "who would be responsible if there was an accident?" Ie.. going into the other lane, continuing to speed up and getting into a wreck. Because he had safer options available, I'm sure he would be at LEAST partly responsible.

You can't say "I wouldn't be able to do this or that" because you don't know what the situation would be for sure. For all we know, you might have been smart enough to notice the Silverado whipping right and you could have stepped on the brakes(avoiding the whole dangerous situation all together)

Maybe, but I doubt it. If I saw a car ahead of me get pushed into the other lane, I'd definitely be hitting the brakes to avoid my own involvement in the accident.

-Sryth...
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hey man you posted it, you had to have known you'd get mixed results, maybe you're the ****&le who should learn how to drive more defensively and be more responsible when passengers are in your car. Also nobody is saying your a bad driver.

by the way nobody is disagreeing with that in your situation we'd be ****ed off to for having some jerk ride our ***, but you have to think about when to pull off and slow down and when you can speed up..........maybe they need to make driver tests harder or something

If you took any of my sarcasm seriously, then I apologize. I don't mean to come off as attacking you, it's just that you're actions were not very safe. I hope you see my view, and drive more defensively in the future.

I read your post very carefully before replying. You were in a position where you could've accelerated or braked. You simply chose the unsafe pedal, as is evident by your near miss with oncoming traffic. If you were both going, say, 60mph, and you nail the brakes, you will very quickly drop back far enough to get behind him. If you nail the gas, it will take a while (relatively) for you to get ahead of him. That's if he's not accelerating.

I feel that the guy in the Silverado is a very bad driver. If disagreeing with your choice of pedals is ignorance, then I am guilty as charged.

The end doesn't justify the means.

I don't think you were trying to show him what's up, I just think you made a bad choice. I'm sure you wouldn't risk anyone's (even the guy in the Silverado's) life intentionally.

I understand that you're pissed. I would be too. I just want to make sure that you (and other drivers) know the safe way to handle situations like this.

-Sryth...
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It's #1 hit the deer.

I had a similar question on my permit test. That said if I was going around a curve and if you see a dog what do you do? A. Hit the dog B. Swerve out of the way C. Hit the brakes D. Go into a ditch

It was A. Hit the dog, because you don't want to put your life in danger, or anybody elses.

Back to topic:

I agree with some of you guys saying he could have gotten into the oncoming lane and hit the brakes. I don't think he was trying to race him or be the man and show-off. He did what he had to do. Granted that would probably be my 2nd option, but he came out of it safely and didn't injure anybody that's the good thing. There isn't need to flame his *** so hard.

If somebody had a driving school setup and did stuff like this to scare the **** out of you, I would like to see what most of you guys would do in similar situations.

That right there contains the viewpoint that people are criticizing. Well, that and the fact that DTR used to endlessly post "Maxima vs. ______" threads. #1, if you're aware he's going full throttle trying to cut off the merge...what do you do? Well...someone who didn't have the attitude of "Hah...trying to get by me? In a truck? Screw that...I drive a maxima!" would probably let the guy go by if he was obviously in such a hurry (you could tell if a modified silverago was trying to haul).

#2...it would take more than just a delicate push on the gas to keep the truck at WOT at your back door in an automatic maxima.

I mean, that's one way to deal with the situation, sure. But don't get all bent out of shape when people criticize and say you had no options. That quote above clearly shows the opposite of defensive driving ("....so he can pull behind me"...I think you were well aware that's not what he wanted to do). You posted it...I don't know what you wanted from it. It's good that you managed to make some choices to get yourself out of the situation ok, but if you had hit someone in the on-coming lane....who would the cops put at fault if you gave the story to them word for word as you did to us?

sorry about getting all "bent out of shape yesterday" and i understand that u were just trying to give some constructive criticism. so yeah im sorry. i just got mad when people were saying that i was trying to show my pride and what not. and when i said i was accelerating to let him behind me is cuz his merging lane was running out, i was trying to be a nice guy by letting him in. his lane was to small him to pass me up, even if i did hit the breaks. someone brought this up and i didnt thikn of this at the time, so i will admit i should have definatly hit the breaks when i pulled into the oncoming lane. but it was natural reaction to just get clear ahead of him to avoid an accident. but yes i should have stopped when i went to the other lane, that would have been much better. but atleast i got out of it with no one injured, thats all that matters. sorry again for being a d*ck