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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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To all the non believers of a stock SPEC V

Take a look at this, this guy ran a 15.0 in a BONE STOCK SPEC V

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/show...threadid=35993

Hey Nealoc187 member this :

Originally posted by Nealoc187


HAHA I was about to say the same thing.

BTW, show me one spec V that has run 15.0 stock. I'm willing to bet my car that not one has.
what do you have to say now, when can I come and pick up your car?
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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also take a look at this

http://home.attbi.com/~jmrecker/specvrsxcivic.wmv

same guy who ran 15.0 stock

ran a NAAaawsed Civic with i/h/e and an RSX Type S

and guess who won
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Wow...i'm impressed. What are the Specs on the SPECV??
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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ummm.... he ran 15.1

15.09 = 15.1 not 15.00

sorry.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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actually technically its 15.0 because its 15."0"9 get it??? its not a 15."1"9

stop rounding off....you are mislead......they shouldve taugh you better in school

closing your mind is your best defense about being onfused by facts
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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actually technically its 15.0 because its 15."0"9 get it??? its not a 15."1"9

stop rounding off....you are mislead......they shouldve taugh you better in school

closing your mind is your best defense about being onfused by facts
So you don't round when you talk about time? You just lop numbers off? I honestly don't know. I'm onfused too.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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15.09 is not close to 15.00
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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15.0 or 15.1......still thats impressive
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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It is reasonable to consider 15.09 as 15.0 since this is always done by everyone...

When someone barely breaks into the 13s by a 100th
they still brag about being in the 13s. Same goes for everything else...

Either way,
that's a hell of a time for that car

damn, 4th gens are getting slow compared to all these new cars
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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DKO is right 15.09 is closer to 15.1 than 15.0. You round up not down....remember, they did teach us that in school....well, at least I, along with about 150 million people in this country were taught that too.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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15.09 is basically 15.1...either way what does this have to do with a maxima? I am sure a stock 4th gen 5 speed with a good driver is still faster than any stock spec V.
Originally posted by 240sxxx
actually technically its 15.0 because its 15."0"9 get it??? its not a 15."1"9

stop rounding off....you are mislead......they shouldve taugh you better in school

closing your mind is your best defense about being onfused by facts
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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I prefer rounding up...rounding down is wishful thinking and BS. At least if u round up, you stand a better chance or reproducing the same result (or better, which's a good thing!)
Imagine claiming 15.0 and running against a guy who claims 15.1...and you lose cuz you ran 15.09 and he ran 15.08. What an embarassment!
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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yeah you guys are right rounding off 15.09 is 15.1 ......

but is 15.09 really a 15.1??? ... no iti s not it is a 15.0 ...

who the hell cares what comes after ........

the "15.0" is still a part of the whole time 15.09 ... look do yo usee the "15.0"9 ?????????

but 15.1 is not a part of 15.09 is it ?????

NO!!
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
I prefer rounding up...rounding down is wishful thinking and BS. At least if u round up, you stand a better chance or reproducing the same result (or better, which's a good thing!)
Imagine claiming 15.0 and running against a guy who claims 15.1...and you lose cuz you ran 15.09 and he ran 15.08. What an embarassment!
Jae
thats true
but how many people actually round UP?

whnever someone barely gets some #.. they always count the 1st 3 digits..

for the most part, people post their #s only including their 1st 3 #s.. no rounding.. just "cancelling out"
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
no rounding.. just "cancelling out"
The technical term is "truncating"
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by dko
ummm.... he ran 15.1

15.09 = 15.1 not 15.00

sorry.
i agree with this.
he ran a 15.1, but thats still very impressive. what was his trap speed?
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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its was 90.71mph
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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15.09 is basically 15.1...either way what does this have to do with a maxima? I am sure a stock 4th gen 5 speed with a good driver is still faster than any stock spec V.
I think he posted here because alot of maxima owners were in doubt that the SPEC V could run those times.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by kingrukus
15.09 is basically 15.1...either way what does this have to do with a maxima? I am sure a stock 4th gen 5 speed with a good driver is still faster than any stock spec V.
But they would kill us in the twisties.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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Re: To all the non believers of a stock SPEC V

Originally posted by 240sxxx
Take a look at this, this guy ran a 15.0 in a BONE STOCK SPEC V

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/show...threadid=35993

Hey Nealoc187 member this :



what do you have to say now, when can I come and pick up your car?
Man i knew those cars have to potential to keep up with all the speedsters. I wish i had the dough to buy one. But yea spec V's are the shiznit, they have a ton of potential.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 02:38 PM
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Re: Re: To all the non believers of a stock SPEC V

Originally posted by 99maximagxe
Man i knew those cars have to potential to keep up with all the speedsters. I wish i had the dough to buy one. But yea spec V's are the shiznit, they have a ton of potential.
Well my friend is trading in his 4th gen max for a spec-v.
15.1 ,damn even if I close my eyes and shift as fast as I can
he will still eat me alive!
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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that was my brother who ran the 15.09..
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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Re: Re: To all the non believers of a stock SPEC V

Originally posted by 99maximagxe
Man i knew those cars have to potential to keep up with all the speedsters. I wish i had the dough to buy one. But yea spec V's are the shiznit, they have a ton of potential.
What speedsters are you referring to?

As for the rounding issue, what's the big deal? Why round at all? We get our 1/4 times down to the 100th of a second, so why round?

Having said that, and assuming you're going to round, if I get a 13.99 I've "broken into the 13's", right? So this guy broke into the 15.0's

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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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get that dodge piece of this forum now!!

Originally posted by MaximusMax
DKO is right 15.09 is closer to 15.1 than 15.0. You round up not down....remember, they did teach us that in school....well, at least I, along with about 150 million people in this country were taught that too.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by SmokinOdum
that was my brother who ran the 15.09..
yeah ... he said that he ran a 14.4 something with your car

it was a nice video
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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i think you read a thread wrong.
I ran 14.3's, then i let him drive it and he ran the 14.12
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
thats true
but how many people actually round UP?

whnever someone barely gets some #.. they always count the 1st 3 digits..

for the most part, people post their #s only including their 1st 3 #s.. no rounding.. just "cancelling out"
you mean truncate.
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Originally posted by NYCe MaXiMa
It is reasonable to consider 15.09 as 15.0 since this is always done by everyone...

When someone barely breaks into the 13s by a 100th
they still brag about being in the 13s. Same goes for everything else...

Either way,
that's a hell of a time for that car

damn, 4th gens are getting slow compared to all these new cars
well i still feel good knowing that these old a$$ 4th gens from years 95 and such are competing with 2002 vehicles. We should all give ourselves a clap in the back

how about comparing all these 2002 cars that are just as fast or a little faster than us to their older 95 ancestors...see if they still can keep up...most can't
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 08:07 PM
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240sxxx yep finally someone did it. I know PlanoSER, post with him on a few other boards actually.

BTW I consider a 15.09 a 15.0, a little truncating in drag times isn't dishonest. I ran a 14.177, I still consider it a 14.1 not a 14.2. Same way as a 15.9 is stil a 15 second 1/4 mile time.
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Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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15.0 is a damn nice time for a little economy car, and will surely put the smack down on the torqueless civics.

...but it still can't touch the fastest 4th gen stock time. I think VeeTec has the fastest time, which is a 14.7@92mph in a family sedan with only 190HP. He was on the verge of hitting 14.6 too.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by DAREN


you mean truncate.

oops

yea.. lol
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
240sxxx yep finally someone did it. I know PlanoSER, post with him on a few other boards actually.

BTW I consider a 15.09 a 15.0, a little truncating in drag times isn't dishonest. I ran a 14.177, I still consider it a 14.1 not a 14.2. Same way as a 15.9 is stil a 15 second 1/4 mile time.
so you owe me your car lol
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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I don't really understand the big deal with 1/4 mile times, anyhow. The times aren't very comparable, unless they're from the same track on the same night. I'm sure that that person could hit mid 14's on a very cold dry day.

1/4 mile times don't mean a thing without specifying the other factors (temp, humidity, elevation, track condition)

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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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so you owe me your car lol

I'm pretty sure Neal won't GIVE you his car....

He was trying to make a point before....so ONE SpecV BARELY ran 15.0....that doesn't mean that the specV is a 15 flat car....or even a low 15s car...I've NEVER seen one run faster than 15.5.

BTW- 90mph is a LOW trap speed for a 15.0....you sure he wasn't running DRs???
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax

He was trying to make a point before....so ONE SpecV BARELY ran 15.0....that doesn't mean that the specV is a 15 flat car....or even a low 15s car...I've NEVER seen one run faster than 15.5.

BTW- 90mph is a LOW trap speed for a 15.0....you sure he wasn't running DRs???
I give the guy credit for pulling off a 15.0@91mph in a Spec-V. I don't care if he ran a 15.09, it's still a 15.0 in my book. When you ask guys what they run at the track, they say XX.X not XX.XX. Low trap speeds are very typical for the Spec-V. The QR25 is not a high-revver (6100rpm rev limiter) and the short gearing takes away some topend.

I will point this out though, a 15.0@91mph with a 2.28 60' for a Spec-V is EXTREMELY rare and not the norm. I'll also point out that SmokenOdum ran a EXTREMELY rare 14.1@97mph in his slightly modded 2K2 6 speed on that same night. What I'm seeing here is we've got two decent drivers running at a very quick track. Some tracks are just faster than others and it's as simple as that. Up here in Kansas City last weekend during the National Grand Prix meet, 90 Grand Prixs (GTPs and GTs) ran at my track and NO ONE bad personal bests. Most guys were .5-.8 and 4-7mph slower even though conditions were incredible (60s, 25% humidity, good baro). It's the same thing every year too, the out of state guys, especially the ones from Texas and the Northeast are significantly slower. Go to www.club-gp.com and you'll see these guys b!tching about my track. Tracks are just different. Some are uphill, some are down hill, some are at sea level, some aren't, some prep for racing, and some don't.

I think Spec-Vs are pretty sweet little cars and they're nothing to snicker at. I will tell you this though, I don't fear them one bit. I've faced them on street and track and IMO, they fall flat after 70mph. They definately don't have the legs of the VQ, especially against a 4th gen VQ with deep breathing lungs I put multiple car lengths on them from a highway run 50-100mph. Once cams, valve springs, and an ECU comes out that extends the limiter to ~6800rpms, the Spev-C will be a solid 14-second car. The aftermarket for that car will be huge.


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Originally posted by BriGuyMax



I'm pretty sure Neal won't GIVE you his car....

He was trying to make a point before....so ONE SpecV BARELY ran 15.0....that doesn't mean that the specV is a 15 flat car....or even a low 15s car...I've NEVER seen one run faster than 15.5.

BTW- 90mph is a LOW trap speed for a 15.0....you sure he wasn't running DRs???

I noticed the low trap speed too. Thats slower than what my brother 99 Auto ran thru the traps. I ran the same time in my modded 5 speed with almost a 5 mph higher trap. SE-Rs are nothing to worry about IMO
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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Bolt on B13/B14 SE-Rs have/will run mid 14s @ 93-95mph. It is just the turbo ones that own maximas.

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I noticed the low trap speed too. Thats slower than what my brother 99 Auto ran thru the traps. I ran the same time in my modded 5 speed with almost a 5 mph higher trap. SE-Rs are nothing to worry about IMO
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I give the guy credit for pulling off a 15.0@91mph in a Spec-V. I don't care if he ran a 15.09, it's still a 15.0 in my book. When you ask guys what they run at the track, they say XX.X not XX.XX. Low trap speeds are very typical for the Spec-V. The QR25 is not a high-revver (6100rpm rev limiter) and the short gearing takes away some topend.

I will point this out though, a 15.0@91mph with a 2.28 60' for a Spec-V is EXTREMELY rare and not the norm. I'll also point out that SmokenOdum ran a EXTREMELY rare 14.1@97mph in his slightly modded 2K2 6 speed on that same night. What I'm seeing here is we've got two decent drivers running at a very quick track. Some tracks are just faster than others and it's as simple as that. Up here in Kansas City last weekend during the National Grand Prix meet, 90 Grand Prixs (GTPs and GTs) ran at my track and NO ONE bad personal bests. Most guys were .5-.8 and 4-7mph slower even though conditions were incredible (60s, 25% humidity, good baro). It's the same thing every year too, the out of state guys, especially the ones from Texas and the Northeast are significantly slower. Go to www.club-gp.com and you'll see these guys b!tching about my track. Tracks are just different. Some are uphill, some are down hill, some are at sea level, some aren't, some prep for racing, and some don't.

I think Spec-Vs are pretty sweet little cars and they're nothing to snicker at. I will tell you this though, I don't fear them one bit. I've faced them on street and track and IMO, they fall flat after 70mph. They definately don't have the legs of the VQ, especially against a 4th gen VQ with deep breathing lungs I put multiple car lengths on them from a highway run 50-100mph. Once cams, valve springs, and an ECU comes out that extends the limiter to ~6800rpms, the Spev-C will be a solid 14-second car. The aftermarket for that car will be huge.


Dave

Not sure if you guys were aware of this, PlanoSER and SmokinOdum are brothers, and it's actually Plano who ran the best times in both cars. He was driving his brother's max on the 14.1 pass.
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