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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 07:50 AM
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As long as the actual frame of the car is not bent adn the top of the car is not "wrinkled", I say it can be fixed, granted that you will be needing all the exterior rear end parts. But hey, while you are at it, you can convert your rear-end to a 97+ like I did...
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As long as the actual frame of the car is not bent adn the top of the car is not "wrinkled", I say it can be fixed, granted that you will be needing all the exterior rear end parts. But hey, while you are at it, you can convert your rear-end to a 97+ like I did...
but i dont' wanna! lol, nah i rather get a new car and we're talking over 3-4 thousand dollars in parts alone atleast. Not to mention massive frame work which may amount to more. I rather have a new car then a totaled rebuilt one....
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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but i dont' wanna! lol, nah i rather get a new car and we're talking over 3-4 thousand dollars in parts alone atleast. Not to mention massive frame work which may amount to more. I rather have a new car then a totaled rebuilt one....
Ok, but is the frame actually bent/warped? If it is, totally disregard what I said. Now that I look at the pictures in more detail, I am really 50/50 on it. Its your decision lol. BTW, who's insurance is covering it, that lady's?
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:20 AM
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Totaled.

There's no way they'll try and fix that. If it was a newer car that was worth 15K+, they'd attempt to fix it, otherwise it's a waste of time. You need a new trunk, both rear 1/4s, two door panels, two door frames, associated framing in the doors, lower skirt, bumper, bumper reinforcement, plus all the frame damage that appears to have been done. Your hood even looks like it's misaligned.

It looks like the insurance company you're dealing with is a shady operation and not a big name firm. A big firm would have gotten you a check in a week. Why are you letting your Dad do all the leg work if he's going to drag his feet? Why don't you do the work?


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Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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Ok, but is the frame actually bent/warped? If it is, totally disregard what I said. Now that I look at the pictures in more detail, I am really 50/50 on it. Its your decision lol. BTW, who's insurance is covering it, that lady's?
yea her insurance is (state farm)

and yes the frame is bent real bad. For one, the back right wheel near where the poll hit the car can't move. Its rubbing on the frame from the inside of the car, not the front or back but the inside. I tried driving the car a block from accident and i saw massive smoke coming out from that wheel well along with pieces of rubber falling off. I then proceeded to put my hand on the tire (after minutes of cooling off ) and found that a large portion of the tire was snatched off. Its going to be hell taking that rim off, not to mention putting old one back on.

Second, the piping is bent as well, the b-pipe area is hangine instead of sitting underneath car.

Last but not least, the whole trunk area is bent all out of shape. The inside spare wheel can't come out, i can't take my freaking jack out and the whole area down there is just bent up. I will take a pic soon for u guys to see. I'm pretty confident taht this will be totaled being that the car i did conversion from got hit in the back kind of bad and it was totaled when the rest of the car was perfect, AND it was a newer model (worth more). Mine being worth less with much more mileage and more damage should have the same result.
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My insurance company and most others I know of, total the car if the repair cost is 70% or more of what the vehicle is worth. It's not really up to the car owner. Also, in my expierence, they will let you keep the wrecked car if you take a little less on the payoff. In case you wanted to keep it for parts or what not.
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Totaled.

There's no way they'll try and fix that. If it was a newer car that was worth 15K+, they'd attempt to fix it, otherwise it's a waste of time. You need a new trunk, both rear 1/4s, two door panels, two door frames, associated framing in the doors, lower skirt, bumper, bumper reinforcement, plus all the frame damage that appears to have been done. Your hood even looks like it's misaligned.

It looks like the insurance company you're dealing with is a shady operation and not a big name firm. A big firm would have gotten you a check in a week. Why are you letting your Dad do all the leg work if he's going to drag his feet? Why don't you do the work?


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he broke down the damages well, but the hood isnt' damaged, i just popped the hood and never fully closed it. OH THE BATTERY IS DEAD TOO cause one of my doors couldn't close.

As far as letting my dad do all the work, u r right, and that's why yesterday i took over because he was too slow. They didn't look at car yet and that's why they haven't thrown me a check. Plus the woman that hit me never faxed them the report (i guess she doesn't care) so i had to fax it to them yesterday, monday they will look at car and decide whether it is totaled or fixable. As far as check is concerned they have to evaluate the report which should take a day so when i get home from school, i'll give them a call and see what they say. My insurance said it will go my way 100%, her insurance (after reading briefing) said it will most likely go my way so i'm not at all worried, just want to get my new max ASAP
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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Ok, but is the frame actually bent/warped? If it is, totally disregard what I said. Now that I look at the pictures in more detail, I am really 50/50 on it. Its your decision lol. BTW, who's insurance is covering it, that lady's?

....guys, like most FWD cars, the Maxima DOES NOT have a frame. The body is bolted onto the floor pan, as is the suspension. On a vehicle with a frame, a floor pan is bolted to the frame and the suspension is attached to the frame.

From the pics, it looks like your rear suspension took a pretty major "hit". Straightening things out might subject the metal to a bunch of microscopic stress fractures that probably won't be of concern unless you do a lot of really hard driving like racing. And if the people who do the repairs aren't exremely meticulous, you could be in for all kinds of grief.

My 2cents - total it - if only for the peace of mind.

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My insurance company and most others I know of, total the car if the repair cost is 70% or more of what the vehicle is worth. It's not really up to the car owner. Also, in my expierence, they will let you keep the wrecked car if you take a little less on the payoff. In case you wanted to keep it for parts or what not.
yes i do wnat to keep it but for like 1,000 or less. My best friend had a 92 maxima SE 5 speed which got hit in the front driver side. They gave him like 3,000 and took off 500 to let him keep the car (this was a year ago). If they let me keep car for 1,000 or less i should be able to make more than that from it. I have all conversion parts, engine, spoiler, some windows, some interior parts and the whole front to sell which should give me close to 2,000.

WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM PRICE U GUYS WOULD BUY THIS CAR BACK FOR?

95 GLE with 112,000 miles, 54,000 mile 5 speed tranny
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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yes i do wnat to keep it but for like 1,000 or less. My best friend had a 92 maxima SE 5 speed which got hit in the front driver side. They gave him like 3,000 and took off 500 to let him keep the car (this was a year ago). If they let me keep car for 1,000 or less i should be able to make more than that from it. I have all conversion parts, engine, spoiler, some windows, some interior parts and the whole front to sell which should give me close to 2,000.

WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM PRICE U GUYS WOULD BUY THIS CAR BACK FOR?

95 GLE with 112,000 miles, 54,000 mile 5 speed tranny
First, it depends on your $$ situation. Will taking less of a pay off really hurt your new car fund? Is there a lot of money still owed on the wrecked Max? Do you own it out right? Is the pay off just a down payment on a new car? These questions are somthing to think about.
Also, you could make a lot selling the parts of the wreck but it could be a lot of work. You also need a place for the thing to sit. Are you willing to go through the hassle of taking pieceing it out and shipping parts to people?
I would not give up more than $800.
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First, it depends on your $$ situation. Will taking less of a pay off really hurt your new car fund? Is there a lot of money still owed on the wrecked Max? Do you own it out right? Is the pay off just a down payment on a new car? These questions are somthing to think about.
Also, you could make a lot selling the parts of the wreck but it could be a lot of work. You also need a place for the thing to sit. Are you willing to go through the hassle of taking pieceing it out and shipping parts to people?
I would not give up more than $800.
thanks for the great input. As far as the situation on the car and my future plans

I am only getting a car that the insurance money gives me i can afford. Meaning another 95-96 possibly 97 SE.

This car was fully paid for since the get-go. All i want is to use whatever money insurance gives me to buy a similar maxima to mine but 5 speed straight this time. If i could sell car parts, i would and use money for mods on car or pay off old bills. As far as labor, obviously i can barely isntall a RSB so it will be hard but i have lots of friends willing to take out major parts for a reasonable fee (250 bucks to take out engine and tranny). The bumper, fenders, i can try to do myself or ask u guys so labor isn't my main concern. AS far as where it would stay, i may just keep it where it is. I just need to get it out of here when snow starts to come but that's a good 3 months away or actually 10 months if u look at how past 5 winters have been...

800 sounds real good, i'll work from there unless u guys can give me some more input on this....
Old Sep 27, 2002 | 09:25 AM
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Your car will be totaled by her insurance company. The thing that you need to be very careful on is how much they will give you for the car. You can't expect a great amount because of the mileage but what you want to do is show that a car at a dealer lot with the same options with the same mileage (or at least close) would cost you this amount. This is what you should demand to get when the car is totaled out.
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Originally posted by meccanoble


thanks for the great input. As far as the situation on the car and my future plans

I am only getting a car that the insurance money gives me i can afford. Meaning another 95-96 possibly 97 SE.

This car was fully paid for since the get-go. All i want is to use whatever money insurance gives me to buy a similar maxima to mine but 5 speed straight this time. If i could sell car parts, i would and use money for mods on car or pay off old bills. As far as labor, obviously i can barely isntall a RSB so it will be hard but i have lots of friends willing to take out major parts for a reasonable fee (250 bucks to take out engine and tranny). The bumper, fenders, i can try to do myself or ask u guys so labor isn't my main concern. AS far as where it would stay, i may just keep it where it is. I just need to get it out of here when snow starts to come but that's a good 3 months away or actually 10 months if u look at how past 5 winters have been...

800 sounds real good, i'll work from there unless u guys can give me some more input on this....
If I were you, which I am not, this is what I would do. Keep the car. Take $800-$1000 less. This will leave you a little short to get the car you want. Use money for a down payment on a nicer, newer and better Max than you thought you could ever have. Spend like 9K-10K. You would only be financing 3K-4K. Do it over 5 years and it will be like $75 a month. This way you get a sweet ride, helps your credit, and have your salvaged car to make $$ with.
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If I were you, which I am not, this is what I would do. Keep the car. Take $800-$1000 less. This will leave you a little short to get the car you want. Use money for a down payment on a nicer, newer and better Max than you thought you could ever have. Spend like 9K-10K. You would only be financing 3K-4K. Do it over 5 years and it will be like $75 a month. This way you get a sweet ride, helps your credit, and have your salvaged car to make $$ with.
that's a good idea but being that i'm a student already in financial danger, i can't afford to finance a pet. I already owe 2,000 from conversion, alarm, and audio equipment, i don't want to pay anymore. I go to work full time making like 175 maximum a week and all of it is going to gas, maintenance, bills and insurance. I really can't afford financing anything right now. And i'm second thinking this keeping the car ordeal because my parents wouldn't be too happy having this piece of junk in the yard chilling. Makes the house look ugly plus they could do something better with the space....if they don't have a problem with me keeping car then i will, otherwise.......
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that's a good idea but being that i'm a student already in financial danger, i can't afford to finance a pet. I already owe 2,000 from conversion, alarm, and audio equipment, i don't want to pay anymore. I go to work full time making like 175 maximum a week and all of it is going to gas, maintenance, bills and insurance. I really can't afford financing anything right now. And i'm second thinking this keeping the car ordeal because my parents wouldn't be too happy having this piece of junk in the yard chilling. Makes the house look ugly plus they could do something better with the space....if they don't have a problem with me keeping car then i will, otherwise.......

Then just make it simple. Take the cash, give them your car(take off any mods if you can) and get a new Max.
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another i'm thinking about doing is having a friend *ahem* skeelo *ahem* help me take out the 5 speed tranny, the interior that makes car look like 5 speed and put the auto tranny and the auto interior back in. I have it all and its a GLE so why give those stuff to them? i know plenty of people here willing to buy the tranny. The thing is i don't know the consequences and outcome of the car. The battery is already dead now but if htey try to jump start it, and it doesn't start, will i be in trouble? will they try to shift and stuff? Do you guys think i can get away with something like this? i mean it will have the auto that came with the car back in there. That is the only part of the car (besides speaker on driver door (door won't open) that i can't show proof of payment (they might start asking questions like why you put 5 speed in a GLE and stuff)
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....guys, like most FWD cars, the Maxima DOES NOT have a frame. The body is bolted onto the floor pan, as is the suspension. On a vehicle with a frame, a floor pan is bolted to the frame and the suspension is attached to the frame.

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That' s right. Maximas don't have a separate frame. They have what's called a unibody. Which is harder to straighten out. You all so have to realize that there will be some hidden damages that may not show up untill maybe months or year later. It simply just not a good idea to fix a car with so much damage.
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....guys, like most FWD cars, the Maxima DOES NOT have a frame. The body is bolted onto the floor pan, as is the suspension. On a vehicle with a frame, a floor pan is bolted to the frame and the suspension is attached to the frame.

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That' s right. Maximas don't have a separate frame. They have what's called a unibody. Which is harder to straighten out. You all so have to realize that there will be some hidden damages that may not show up untill maybe months or year later. It simply just not a good idea to fix a car with so much damage.
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Originally posted by meccanoble
another i'm thinking about doing is having a friend *ahem* skeelo *ahem* help me take out the 5 speed tranny, the interior that makes car look like 5 speed and put the auto tranny and the auto interior back in. I have it all and its a GLE so why give those stuff to them? i know plenty of people here willing to buy the tranny. The thing is i don't know the consequences and outcome of the car. The battery is already dead now but if htey try to jump start it, and it doesn't start, will i be in trouble? will they try to shift and stuff? Do you guys think i can get away with something like this? i mean it will have the auto that came with the car back in there. That is the only part of the car (besides speaker on driver door (door won't open) that i can't show proof of payment (they might start asking questions like why you put 5 speed in a GLE and stuff)
Good luck on that... I don't know if you could get in trouble for that or not. BUT, as far as them asking why you put a 5 speed in a GLE, it's none of their business. It's your car, and you can do whatever the heck you want with it. You would not get in trouble for putting the 5 speed in, but as far as now trying to take it out and put the auto back in... I don't know...
Old Sep 29, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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Buy a new 95-96 Maxima (Any trim, doesn't matter), and take the usable mods from your wrecked car and put them on the new one. (i.e. rims/tires, any engine/intake mods, etc...)
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It will never be the same if fixed. Get your own repair estimates, and total the car. Start shopping.
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It will never be the same if fixed. Get your own repair estimates, and total the car. Start shopping.
yes i plan to. I'm pretty sure its gonna be totaled. The pics don't do the damage justice. Even if there was a chance to fix it, i would tell them i rather have it totaled because i fear teh outcomes of fixing a damaged car.

I am looking for a 95-97 SE 5 speed with ATLEAST sunroof and digital climate control. unfortunately if i remember correctly, only SE leather packages come with digital climate control so i'm really looking at a fully loaded SE 5 speed. However, now that its getting harder to find what i want, i may just settle for the sunroof, but i really like digital climate especially at night.....
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yes i plan to. I'm pretty sure its gonna be totaled. The pics don't do the damage justice. Even if there was a chance to fix it, i would tell them i rather have it totaled because i fear teh outcomes of fixing a damaged car.

I am looking for a 95-97 SE 5 speed with ATLEAST sunroof and digital climate control. unfortunately if i remember correctly, only SE leather packages come with digital climate control so i'm really looking at a fully loaded SE 5 speed. However, now that its getting harder to find what i want, i may just settle for the sunroof, but i really like digital climate especially at night.....
Not too sure where in Jersey you're located, so I did a seach within 100 miles of Raritan, but here's something that might be worth a look...

http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/r...=used&x=44&y=8
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