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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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This topic has been tossed around, but it is certain now. Courtesy Nissan will have the mevi.... includes the rpm switch and all other little goodies needed for the setup. The bad part is the price is higher (no clue what it is yet) but there is no 2 or 3 month wait time with the group deals.

The estimated time is 2 - 3 weeks, i'll keep you guys updated.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 05:49 PM
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No way!!! Haha, that's kool. Will it come with a Nissan soleniod and vacuum canister kinda like the one on the MEVI install site? And what brand of rpm switch is it going to come with? How about the cover, because I want to get the cover for mine. Well, it's cool and all, but it's also cool to have one of the few VI's around, but not anymore, if this is true, then everyone and their momma's going to get one I'm sure, as far as putting them on, who knows about that. So how did this happen, and how was it initiated?
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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well it was a 5 minute chat with my friends who work there.

I asked about those things and he said everything that you need will be able to run it....
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Are you sure they know what they're talking about? Because the Mid East/Japan A32's VI are run via the ECU, and that would be very costly as far as American Maximas are concerned. I remember a thread a while back stating JWT was willing to do the manifold conversion but was going to charge about 7-900 dollars just to program it into the ECU using their on MAP/BARO switch.

Just curious, but then again, it may be cheaper just to get all the manifold parts from Nissan, and then get a cheap solenoid and rpm swtich and run it like veryone else is here on this board.

This is really cool for those of you that don't already have a Japan/Mid east VI.

I feel kinda ricey when I tell people I have a japan IM, the young ricers say, 'yeah, so now you got a J-Spec Maxima', LOL
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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I believe that's why there is the rpm switch to have it open @ certain rpm's regardless of the ecu......... I know little about how it works, I like the gains though
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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yeah, the gains are nasty as hell, best mod anyone can do, add in a y-pipe and you'll be doing all right as far as performance is concerned.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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I'm in IanS first deal but am jumping into this thread to stay informed. Very interesting and thanks for the info.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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I waited excacltly 4 weeks for my MEVI. Not bad considering I waited the same amount of time for my RPM switch.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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Hmm I wonder if the service people would take care of issues with the MEVI there. Intresting...

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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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Any VI news is good stuff :)

It'll be interesting what the rpm switch is, since they should be able to get a stock Nissan one, not the Harlan switch that is the only option right now. And I wonder how it would work, whether thru the ECU or certain other conditions that the Harlan switch may not be able to. Maybe the VI can have more intelligence associated with it when it opens, not just a fixed rpm.

I wonder also if courtesy would also do a trade in? Take the old fixed manifold as a core, so to speak? That would help reduce costs.

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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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- Dammit! Now I REALLY want this manifold!
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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This isn't really new news Courtesy has been trying to source VIs for a few months now with the help of a few key Maxima owners. The biggest problem I heard of was that even they cannot make large purchases directly through Nissan for some reason (maybe some sort of export restriction). I believe Steve, the parts manager, is the only informed one at this point.

dwapenyi - our VI isn't infinitely variable so there's nothing else they can really do. It's either on or off.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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well it seems that they have more info now, since two of the regular sales guys talked to me today, not the manager....



yeah, you're right, it's not new news.... first sentence.... I just kinda wanted to update people since courtesy is actually giving a more concrete time as opposed to the last time when I asked, they said it'll be here soon.

I'll be talking to the guys each week to see how things are going. It would be really nice to have a local source
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I know its either on or off, but maybe the VI can use more intelligence, like switch over at 5000 rpms in 1st gear, 5100 rpm in 2nd, 4900 in 3rd, or also vary its opening with throttle input. No point in opening up if your are steadily cruising at 5000 rpm at 50% throttle.

Compare it to VTEC on a Honda, put a VTEC car in neutral and rev, the cams will not switch over at high rpm, no need. The VI controlled by a Harlan switch on a Maxima will do it all the time, even in neutral.

I have alway wondered about the RPM switch from Nissan that accompanied the VI. I wonder if Roadbeast had actually shipped it to anyone. Not likely from all the threads I've seen.

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This isn't really new news Courtesy has been trying to source VIs for a few months now with the help of a few key Maxima owners. The biggest problem I heard of was that even they cannot make large purchases directly through Nissan for some reason (maybe some sort of export restriction). I believe Steve, the parts manager, is the only informed one at this point.

dwapenyi - our VI isn't infinitely variable so there's nothing else they can really do. It's either on or off.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
I know its either on or off, but maybe the VI can use more intelligence, like switch over at 5000 rpms in 1st gear, 5100 rpm in 2nd, 4900 in 3rd, or also vary its opening with throttle input. No point in opening up if your are steadily cruising at 5000 rpm at 50% throttle.

I have alway wondered about the RPM switch from Nissan that accompanied the VI. I wonder if Roadbeast had actually shipped it to anyone. Not likely from all the threads I've seen.

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Ok that makes more sense DW. I imagine it's not as bad to activate the actuator for the VI as it is to engage the cams. The VI doesn't really wear, so the on/off is negligible.
The different rpm in each gear is also an interesting thought, but isn't the engine going through the same motions? The gears last slightly longer, but the hp/torque curves should be approximately the same.
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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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It would be really nice to have a local source
yeah, nice for the one time that you're going to buy it... lol
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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True, the assumption is always WOT, and I guees, at 5000 rpm or thereabouts, it's pretty much valid. On road trips though, I have a tendency to cruise at 4000 rpm, if the VI activated around then, at partial throttle, not WOT, that may cause some hiccups, like surging, especially if cruise control was set. Well, cruise only holds up to 90 mph, after that, your on your own. Don't ask me how I know that

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. . The different rpm in each gear is also an interesting thought, but isn't the engine going through the same motions? The gears last slightly longer, but the hp/torque curves should be approximately the same.
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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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Ok that makes more sense DW. I imagine it's not as bad to activate the actuator for the VI as it is to engage the cams. The VI doesn't really wear, so the on/off is negligible.
The different rpm in each gear is also an interesting thought, but isn't the engine going through the same motions? The gears last slightly longer, but the hp/torque curves should be approximately the same.
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I belive the idea behind the differnt RPM in different gears is that in the lower gears the RPMs are rising so fast that between the time the rpm switch senses the correct rpm and the time the VI actually opens the engine is already going 2-300 rpms faster. I don't know if this will actually make a differnce and it's just a theory, so don't flame me.

It would be nice to have a local source and a Nissan RPM switch, particularly with all the problems the VI guys are having with the Harlan. If they sell a complete kit and the price is close I will definatly consider getting it from them.
Old Oct 2, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by xHypex
This isn't really new news Courtesy has been trying to source VIs for a few months now with the help of a few key Maxima owners. The biggest problem I heard of was that even they cannot make large purchases directly through Nissan for some reason (maybe some sort of export restriction). I believe Steve, the parts manager, is the only informed one at this point.

dwapenyi - our VI isn't infinitely variable so there's nothing else they can really do. It's either on or off.
-hype
Yeah my contact in Japan can't do more than 20 at one time...Not that I've had an order that big but that is probably a similar order for Courtesy is my guess. I wonder if they would be using all OEM parts??? That is pretty cool.

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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 11:52 AM
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well there are differences in that courtesy will actually have the item stocked.... but it will undoubtedly be higher in cost through courtesy as opposed to you, but there is no wait time. No clue on the limit for them ordering though, they didnt mention anything about it.
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Originally posted by xHypex

Ok that makes more sense DW. I imagine it's not as bad to activate the actuator for the VI as it is to engage the cams. The VI doesn't really wear, so the on/off is negligible.
The different rpm in each gear is also an interesting thought, but isn't the engine going through the same motions? The gears last slightly longer, but the hp/torque curves should be approximately the same.
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it's not that the HP/Torque curves are different...they are the same.

There is a delay from the time that the car gets to the set RPM for activation and then time in which the switch actually opens the valves. Since each gear takes a different amount of time to wind out, it would be beneficial to be able to set different activation RPMs for different gears so the valves would OPEN at the same RPM.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. In 1st and 2nd gear, the car zooms thru the rpms so fast that a harlan set at 5000 rpm may really be opening at 5300. Whereas, in 4th and 5th gear, with the harlan set at 5000, the rpm rise is slow enough that the harlan opening at 5000 rpm actually occurs at 5000 rpms.

Does the MSD ignition have multiple rpms setting capabilities?? If so, combine it with a dyno in all gears to find the best setting in each gear.

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it's not that the HP/Torque curves are different...they are the same.

There is a delay from the time that the car gets to the set RPM for activation and then time in which the switch actually opens the valves. Since each gear takes a different amount of time to wind out, it would be beneficial to be able to set different activation RPMs for different gears so the valves would OPEN at the same RPM.
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