Strut bar
i just put one in the other day on my 97 max....i got a courtesy nissan bar and i noticed a big difference....it makes the car feel more stable....you should get one....my courtesy one was $70 or so and looks nice and works great....
oh btw the torque specs...they don't have to be exact...i was going to use a torque wrench and the mechanic i was going to borrow it from said just tighten them until it feels tight...don't throw your wieght as hard as you can into it...he said 35 ft/lbs is very light and you shouldn't use an air gun either....he's the head mechanic at the shop so i did it and he was right i put it on real easy with just a socket wrench...now the rear feels kind of soft....debating about getting a rear sway bar
oh btw the torque specs...they don't have to be exact...i was going to use a torque wrench and the mechanic i was going to borrow it from said just tighten them until it feels tight...don't throw your wieght as hard as you can into it...he said 35 ft/lbs is very light and you shouldn't use an air gun either....he's the head mechanic at the shop so i did it and he was right i put it on real easy with just a socket wrench...now the rear feels kind of soft....debating about getting a rear sway bar
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I suppose you could get away with "about 35 ft-lbs" . . .
but I'd recommend you use a torque wrench anyway, particularly since you can borrow one for free from AutoZone. I torqued mine down to 40 ft-lbs, but 35 ft-lbs should be fine.
Originally posted by Jimp
Does any one have the pro car parts strut bar? If so is it as good as the Stillen one. I know they Stillen is about 200.00 dollars ans the one from pro car is only 50.00. I don't want to spend 200.00 if I can get the same thing for only 50.00.
Does any one have the pro car parts strut bar? If so is it as good as the Stillen one. I know they Stillen is about 200.00 dollars ans the one from pro car is only 50.00. I don't want to spend 200.00 if I can get the same thing for only 50.00.
I installed the Stillen last night and noticed a difference right away. This is a cool mod and everyone should do it since the cost is so little. I got the Stillen b/c I like the way it looks better and it appears to be beefier. Just my impression though. The less expensive ones work well according the the people here.
Re: Strut bar difference
You will feel a measurable difference in your lower right corner of the driver seat where you saved the extra money from buying the same results for less. Happy Motoring!
Best Deal
Which is the best one for around 50-75. I want performance first and looks second. How hard is the install??
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Last edited by dmbmaxima2k2; Sep 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM.
The best deal is http://www.street-beat.com or http://www.procarparts.com. Both have the same (99% sure) bar for $35 plus shipping. It'll perform the same as a Stillen, just won't look as good.
Street Beat
Originally posted by Weasel
The best deal is http://www.street-beat.com or http://www.procarparts.com. Both have the same (99% sure) bar for $35 plus shipping. It'll perform the same as a Stillen, just won't look as good.
The best deal is http://www.street-beat.com or http://www.procarparts.com. Both have the same (99% sure) bar for $35 plus shipping. It'll perform the same as a Stillen, just won't look as good.
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Last edited by dmbmaxima2k2; Sep 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM.
Re: Street Beat
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
I want to order the one from Street-Beat for 35 but i have a 95 and it says for 96-99. I just want to make sure that it will fit before i buy it.
Originally posted by Weasel
The best deal is http://www.street-beat.com or http://www.procarparts.com. Both have the same (99% sure) bar for $35 plus shipping. It'll perform the same as a Stillen, just won't look as good.
The best deal is http://www.street-beat.com or http://www.procarparts.com. Both have the same (99% sure) bar for $35 plus shipping. It'll perform the same as a Stillen, just won't look as good.
yup, it does say 96-99. what about the 95? ALSO, It says forty seven bucks, not thirty five. take care.
That site is weird about part numbers and years. For instance, if you look up the clear corners, its 10 bucks more for a 97-99, when theyre the same part number and are the same part. I can't think of any reason that the bar wouldn't fit, the 95 and 96 are practically identical.
$35
http://www.street-beat.com/alalstruttow39.html
Street-beat is currently at $35. I have the Courtesy FSTB ($59 at the time) on my 94 GXE, no complaints. So is Street-Beat legit? Site safe enough to order online from?
Street-beat is currently at $35. I have the Courtesy FSTB ($59 at the time) on my 94 GXE, no complaints. So is Street-Beat legit? Site safe enough to order online from?
Re: $35
Originally posted by voltman
http://www.street-beat.com/alalstruttow39.html
Street-beat is currently at $35. I have the Courtesy FSTB ($59 at the time) on my 94 GXE, no complaints. So is Street-Beat legit? Site safe enough to order online from?
http://www.street-beat.com/alalstruttow39.html
Street-beat is currently at $35. I have the Courtesy FSTB ($59 at the time) on my 94 GXE, no complaints. So is Street-Beat legit? Site safe enough to order online from?
I've still got it for sale if anyone is interested. It's brand new. Reason I'm selling it is because I got a used Stillen one for a good price just a day before my procarparts one arrived.
Originally posted by Weasel
I ordered mine from street beat around the 16th, it's getting delivered here tomorrow. Guess you just caught them at a bad time...
I ordered mine from street beat around the 16th, it's getting delivered here tomorrow. Guess you just caught them at a bad time...
Quite posssibly but i got my procarparts FSTB the next week. I couldn't even get a reply from streetbeat until a couple of weeks after my order.
I can answer this question since I had the courtesy FSTB and now have the Stillen (because of a great deal)
They both do the same thing and perform the same. Actually the courtesy fits nicer than the stillen because it has a slightly higher clearence across the engine bay, so it doesn't touch any of the lines or hoses. The stillen only looks nicer, but for $75 (used) I couldn't pass it up.
They both do the same thing and perform the same. Actually the courtesy fits nicer than the stillen because it has a slightly higher clearence across the engine bay, so it doesn't touch any of the lines or hoses. The stillen only looks nicer, but for $75 (used) I couldn't pass it up.
Performance
I am not convinced that the FSTB is a noticeable difference. The only time I can feel a difference is taking very sharp fast corners. Offramps and things like that. Normal driving doesn't feel different at all.
Here in MA, there are two spots I can feel it: The Rt 16 offramp off the Mass Pike, and the 95 South ramp off of 93/128. These are huge sweeping ramps that I can tear around at about 50 MPH thanks to the bar. Obviously there is no need to be going that fast, so the bar is irrelevant if you drive like a sane driver.
Here in MA, there are two spots I can feel it: The Rt 16 offramp off the Mass Pike, and the 95 South ramp off of 93/128. These are huge sweeping ramps that I can tear around at about 50 MPH thanks to the bar. Obviously there is no need to be going that fast, so the bar is irrelevant if you drive like a sane driver.
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Re: Performance
Originally posted by Bernie Lomax
I am not convinced that the FSTB is a noticeable difference. The only time I can feel a difference is taking very sharp fast corners. Offramps and things like that. Normal driving doesn't feel different at all.
Here in MA, there are two spots I can feel it: The Rt 16 offramp off the Mass Pike, and the 95 South ramp off of 93/128. These are huge sweeping ramps that I can tear around at about 50 MPH thanks to the bar. Obviously there is no need to be going that fast, so the bar is irrelevant if you drive like a sane driver.
I am not convinced that the FSTB is a noticeable difference. The only time I can feel a difference is taking very sharp fast corners. Offramps and things like that. Normal driving doesn't feel different at all.
Here in MA, there are two spots I can feel it: The Rt 16 offramp off the Mass Pike, and the 95 South ramp off of 93/128. These are huge sweeping ramps that I can tear around at about 50 MPH thanks to the bar. Obviously there is no need to be going that fast, so the bar is irrelevant if you drive like a sane driver.
I agree that the FSTB doesn't make as much of a difference as, say, a RSB. But you yourself admit that it DOES make a difference when you "tear around" the sweeping offramps off the Mass Pike. (Of course, we'd have to question your sanity when you do that. And I'll bet nobody else wants to do anything nearly as insane as that.)
Is a Stillen FSTB worth $200.00? Probably not. Is a generic FSTB worth $50.00 to $75.00? You bet!
[Edited by y2kse on 12-26-2000 at 10:25 AM]
Re: Re: Performance
What if you had a RSB but no FSTB? Would that be an extremely noticeable difference? I think once the weather gets warmer I will pick up a RSB. I wish they were as available on ebay as the FSTBs are.
Re: Re: Re: Performance
Originally posted by Bernie Lomax
What if you had a RSB but no FSTB? Would that be an extremely noticeable difference? I think once the weather gets warmer I will pick up a RSB. I wish they were as available on ebay as the FSTBs are.
What if you had a RSB but no FSTB? Would that be an extremely noticeable difference? I think once the weather gets warmer I will pick up a RSB. I wish they were as available on ebay as the FSTBs are.
FSTB does make a difference
I ended up going with the Stillen for the looks, and because it appeared to be a bit beefier (but I bet they're all the same). It was a bit of a pain to put on. One of the screw holes didn't quite line up, so I had to use a drill press to make the screw hole bigger, and it lined up fine. I first put the stb on with the tightener neutral. So the bar would slide on. I drove around, and didn't really notice anything. I got back and decided to tighten the bar one turn, to preload the struts. THAT made the difference. The steering hardly feels tighter around town. By far, the biggest difference with a FSTB is high speed corners. Like 80mph. Low speed off-camber corners, like 25mph, don't seem any different.
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