4th Gen Turbo/Automatic/Built VQ30DE Project
#41
I don't know if I understand you. All I'm trying to to convey to you is this:
Working on the VG series iron blocks is different process that on the VQ series blocks. So "technically" just because they worked on Nissan v6 VG blocks doesn't mean they know how to work on a Nissan V6 VQ block.
Working on the VG series iron blocks is different process that on the VQ series blocks. So "technically" just because they worked on Nissan v6 VG blocks doesn't mean they know how to work on a Nissan V6 VQ block.
Originally posted by avalon42
If what they say holds true about the VG series (despite its bullsh*t), then technically they should be able to work on the VQ, right?
-A
If what they say holds true about the VG series (despite its bullsh*t), then technically they should be able to work on the VQ, right?
-A
#42
I'm not an expert but if the stock motor with 10:1 compression pistons can handle 14-15psi or 1 bar then just lowering compression to 8.5:1 should get you halfway to your 20-25 psi goal. I think getting these machinists that aren't sure of themselves to do this work will result in an overall less blueprinted engine than a stock one. I would leave the steel sleeves and go with shorter rods or shorter/lower compression JE/SRP or similar pistons. I would seriously consider a quality -400 degree deep cryogenic treatment, i.e. contact (hekimian racing), to at least the crank and block. It will be well worth it while the engine is dissassembled. Do the cryo, the jwt cams with the upgraded springs/retainers, and lower compression pistons or cryo the stock ones and get shorter rods and you should be fine. I would however read this month scc mag and read about the JWT 300zx project and it lists the machinist who do there work and contact them for fortification advice.
#43
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excatly like i was saying in my earlier post. how could they sleeve a VG30DETT block?? if a machinest told me this, i would automatically disqualify him as a "professional"
anyways, shops offhand....hummmm
SP Enginnering, Area 51 Fabrication, cant think of anything else...ugh
how bout....
Darton Sleeves does sleeves for Hondas. Benson makes alot of bullproof Honda blocks. check them out. uhmmm, there are a ton in LA, juss check around i guess.
anyways, shops offhand....hummmm
SP Enginnering, Area 51 Fabrication, cant think of anything else...ugh
how bout....
Darton Sleeves does sleeves for Hondas. Benson makes alot of bullproof Honda blocks. check them out. uhmmm, there are a ton in LA, juss check around i guess.
#44
Originally posted by Turbo95Max
excatly like i was saying in my earlier post. how could they sleeve a VG30DETT block?? if a machinest told me this, i would automatically disqualify him as a "professional"
anyways, shops offhand....hummmm
SP Enginnering, Area 51 Fabrication, cant think of anything else...ugh
how bout....
Darton Sleeves does sleeves for Hondas. Benson makes alot of bullproof Honda blocks. check them out. uhmmm, there are a ton in LA, juss check around i guess.
excatly like i was saying in my earlier post. how could they sleeve a VG30DETT block?? if a machinest told me this, i would automatically disqualify him as a "professional"
anyways, shops offhand....hummmm
SP Enginnering, Area 51 Fabrication, cant think of anything else...ugh
how bout....
Darton Sleeves does sleeves for Hondas. Benson makes alot of bullproof Honda blocks. check them out. uhmmm, there are a ton in LA, juss check around i guess.
Umm, I won't step near Area 51 because they are ****s. Yes, they are ****s. Most of the guys in the tech shops are okay, but the **** salespeople need to go.
These shops you are mentioning by the way only do Hondas/Acuras, not Nissans. We need someone with verifiable Nissan or even big block domestic V8 experience.
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Originally posted by avalon42
Umm, I won't step near Area 51 because they are ****s. Yes, they are ****s. Most of the guys in the tech shops are okay, but the **** salespeople need to go.
These shops you are mentioning by the way only do Hondas/Acuras, not Nissans. We need someone with verifiable Nissan or even big block domestic V8 experience.
-A
Umm, I won't step near Area 51 because they are ****s. Yes, they are ****s. Most of the guys in the tech shops are okay, but the **** salespeople need to go.
These shops you are mentioning by the way only do Hondas/Acuras, not Nissans. We need someone with verifiable Nissan or even big block domestic V8 experience.
-A
SP Enginnering does do Nissans. I know for a fact. Area 51 should do NIssans, i know they work on Toyotas.
i dunno bout finding a domestic V8 builder to do your V6 import motor. In my experince it hasnt added up to a good motor. example is how they Oring your block, on a V8 you Oring it a different way then you would on a 4 cyl. Talk to JWT?? Dude you live in the land of modified cars, it should be EASY to find a shop as long as your willing to spend money. I mean cmon, im up north and i was able to find a shop to build my motor.
#49
Here's an idea.. why don't someone call Nissan and ask to speak to a tech. not a dealer tech. or mech. I mean call the corporation themselves.. I am thinking about doing the samething to my MAX.. Ava. I am trying to get all my info before I start messing around with my engine though cause this is not a bolt on procedure..
Hopefully when I get through with my car I will be pushing at least 500hp.. There might be one other option though Ava. think about a 300Z engine in the MAX..
Hopefully when I get through with my car I will be pushing at least 500hp.. There might be one other option though Ava. think about a 300Z engine in the MAX..
#50
Originally posted by SonGouko
Hopefully when I get through with my car I will be pushing at least 500hp.. There might be one other option though Ava. think about a 300Z engine in the MAX..
Hopefully when I get through with my car I will be pushing at least 500hp.. There might be one other option though Ava. think about a 300Z engine in the MAX..
Since the exhaust manifolds of the front and rear bank are seperate on our engines, it shouldn't be hard to fabricate a custom twin turbo setup.
Hmmm...I want to get this done, I'm gonna call JWT again and ask for a referral. Thanks Turbo95MAX.
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Originally posted by avalon42
The VG30DETT won't fit in our engine compartments without serious modification, even still, it's designed for RWD vs. our FWD cars.
Since the exhaust manifolds of the front and rear bank are seperate on our engines, it shouldn't be hard to fabricate a custom twin turbo setup.
Hmmm...I want to get this done, I'm gonna call JWT again and ask for a referral. Thanks Turbo95MAX.
-A
The VG30DETT won't fit in our engine compartments without serious modification, even still, it's designed for RWD vs. our FWD cars.
Since the exhaust manifolds of the front and rear bank are seperate on our engines, it shouldn't be hard to fabricate a custom twin turbo setup.
Hmmm...I want to get this done, I'm gonna call JWT again and ask for a referral. Thanks Turbo95MAX.
-A
#53
Originally posted by Turbo95Max
your in LA man, you can go drive around and check out some shops..i know youll find something as long as money isnt the issue. haha anyways, i dont think it would be easy to do a twin turbo setup, its doable but not easy..in my opinion. There isnt much room in the back to work wotih. Take a lookie at rear exhaust manifold and youll know what i mean
your in LA man, you can go drive around and check out some shops..i know youll find something as long as money isnt the issue. haha anyways, i dont think it would be easy to do a twin turbo setup, its doable but not easy..in my opinion. There isnt much room in the back to work wotih. Take a lookie at rear exhaust manifold and youll know what i mean
Hell, why don't you send me info on who sleeved your block? I know they are up there in N. Calif, but that's better than nothing like we got right now...
-A
#54
See that's the problem.. I am sure that most of us included would do this mod... BUT.. To find the person who knows what the Fu*k they are doing..is another story.. Unless you beg some designers at nissan and throw crazy money at them.. Wait they're in Japan...
#55
Originally posted by SonGouko
Here's an idea.. why don't someone call Nissan and ask to speak to a tech. not a dealer tech. or mech. I mean call the corporation themselves.. I am thinking about doing the samething to my MAX.. Ava. I am trying to get all my info before I start messing around with my engine though cause this is not a bolt on procedure..
Here's an idea.. why don't someone call Nissan and ask to speak to a tech. not a dealer tech. or mech. I mean call the corporation themselves.. I am thinking about doing the samething to my MAX.. Ava. I am trying to get all my info before I start messing around with my engine though cause this is not a bolt on procedure..
SuDZ
#56
Originally posted by SuDZ
If they would talk to you it would be cool, but I think they might just as easily blow you off.
SuDZ
If they would talk to you it would be cool, but I think they might just as easily blow you off.
SuDZ
Nissan should ship those damned R34s over here. I would buy two, a black and a blue.
Anyways, more on this project. I called JWT, and got a lead on someone that already has a fully built+sleeved VQ30DE engine DONE, with the pistons and rods, custom turbo manifolds and all. I need to go see the engine/car, thank goodness it's local. I'll post pics and info and cost as soon as I get some. I'm feeling better about this project already...
-A
#57
Originally posted by avalon42
Anyways, more on this project. I called JWT, and got a lead on someone that already has a fully built+sleeved VQ30DE engine DONE, with the pistons and rods, custom turbo manifolds and all. I need to go see the engine/car, thank goodness it's local. I'll post pics and info and cost as soon as I get some. I'm feeling better about this project already...
-A
Anyways, more on this project. I called JWT, and got a lead on someone that already has a fully built+sleeved VQ30DE engine DONE, with the pistons and rods, custom turbo manifolds and all. I need to go see the engine/car, thank goodness it's local. I'll post pics and info and cost as soon as I get some. I'm feeling better about this project already...
-A
well if you need references SP Performance is a great shop they are busy and XS I'd recommend too but they are ALWAYS busy
if you want to go to them or if you have problems after you go to them I can call them and talk to them see if that will help Alex @ SP is a friend of mine and Eric at XS is the guy who built the motor of my SR20DET back before the Maxima
#58
Keep us posted Ava. I am very interested.. I really don't wanna do my project the hard way which was the 300Z project with a lot of fabrication.. Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
#59
Originally posted by SonGouko
Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
#60
Originally posted by SonGouko
Keep us posted Ava. I am very interested.. I really don't wanna do my project the hard way which was the 300Z project with a lot of fabrication.. Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
Keep us posted Ava. I am very interested.. I really don't wanna do my project the hard way which was the 300Z project with a lot of fabrication.. Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
#61
Originally posted by avalon42
Anyways, more on this project. I called JWT, and got a lead on someone that already has a fully built+sleeved VQ30DE engine DONE, with the pistons and rods, custom turbo manifolds and all. I need to go see the engine/car, thank goodness it's local. I'll post pics and info and cost as soon as I get some. I'm feeling better about this project already...
-A
Anyways, more on this project. I called JWT, and got a lead on someone that already has a fully built+sleeved VQ30DE engine DONE, with the pistons and rods, custom turbo manifolds and all. I need to go see the engine/car, thank goodness it's local. I'll post pics and info and cost as soon as I get some. I'm feeling better about this project already...
-A
SuDZ
#62
contact I30Krab, maybe he can tell you about JWTs work... he has his motor tuned (and rebuilt?) by JWT.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....5&pagenumber=1
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....5&pagenumber=1
#63
News about the built engine. It's a gob of information, I barely had time to write down every features imaginable.
Turns out JWT, Crower, and few choice industry others have been working on this engine under our noses. It uses a 300ZX crank, custom billet rods+pistons (oversized of course). The block is a VQ30DET block, it's been stroked, and the thing has been cryo-dipped in almost -400 degrees.
Daily driver, around 17-19psi.
Track, around 27-29 psi.
Drool.
He will include a custom torque convertor and a couple of custom transmission dampeners that has a 3 mode computer. Okay, that didn't make sense.
I will be seeing the engine and stuff next week, you will get a plethora of pics and info then.
-A
Turns out JWT, Crower, and few choice industry others have been working on this engine under our noses. It uses a 300ZX crank, custom billet rods+pistons (oversized of course). The block is a VQ30DET block, it's been stroked, and the thing has been cryo-dipped in almost -400 degrees.
Daily driver, around 17-19psi.
Track, around 27-29 psi.
Drool.
He will include a custom torque convertor and a couple of custom transmission dampeners that has a 3 mode computer. Okay, that didn't make sense.
I will be seeing the engine and stuff next week, you will get a plethora of pics and info then.
-A
#64
Originally posted by SonGouko
Keep us posted Ava. I am very interested.. I really don't wanna do my project the hard way which was the 300Z project with a lot of fabrication.. Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
Keep us posted Ava. I am very interested.. I really don't wanna do my project the hard way which was the 300Z project with a lot of fabrication.. Also a little side tidbit.. My designer also informed me that he could drop a skyline engine into the Max I would be without the car for almost a year but I would be the fastest Max on the road..
Hey while he's doing that skyline engine.....I'm gonna drop an LS6 in my max....
retard
#65
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Hey while he's doing that skyline engine.....I'm gonna drop an LS6 in my max....
retard
Hey while he's doing that skyline engine.....I'm gonna drop an LS6 in my max....
retard
I love the ignorant people who never even tried to think of something new much less do anything special to there Max except be on the .ORG trying to an a$$ wipe... Well the designer is the same guy that drop a supra engine into a Nissan 240 SX and I have personally seen this car.. So suck a d*ck.. And as I said before the fabrication on a straight Six would take some time, changing a front wheel drive car into a rear wheel drive is a project that I am willing to check into and undergo.. I gurantee that it will cost WAYYY less than 98,000 which is the going price to get an R34 Skyline VSpecII from Japan. So What Mod are you trying to be innovative an do...? None.... Well then shut the f*ck up... From the one line that you wrote you show that you don't have ideas just negativity, I don't like negative people..
#66
Originally posted by SonGouko
I love the ignorant people who never even tried to think of something new much less do anything special to there Max except be on the .ORG trying to an a$$ wipe... Well the designer is the same guy that drop a supra engine into a Nissan 240 SX and I have personally seen this car.. So suck a d*ck.. And as I said before the fabrication on a straight Six would take some time, changing a front wheel drive car into a rear wheel drive is a project that I am willing to check into and undergo.. I gurantee that it will cost WAYYY less than 98,000 which is the going price to get an R34 Skyline VSpecII from Japan. So What Mod are you trying to be innovative an do...? None.... Well then shut the f*ck up... From the one line that you wrote you show that you don't have ideas just negativity, I don't like negative people..
I love the ignorant people who never even tried to think of something new much less do anything special to there Max except be on the .ORG trying to an a$$ wipe... Well the designer is the same guy that drop a supra engine into a Nissan 240 SX and I have personally seen this car.. So suck a d*ck.. And as I said before the fabrication on a straight Six would take some time, changing a front wheel drive car into a rear wheel drive is a project that I am willing to check into and undergo.. I gurantee that it will cost WAYYY less than 98,000 which is the going price to get an R34 Skyline VSpecII from Japan. So What Mod are you trying to be innovative an do...? None.... Well then shut the f*ck up... From the one line that you wrote you show that you don't have ideas just negativity, I don't like negative people..
-A
#71
Originally posted by SonGouko
I love the ignorant people who never even tried to think of something new much less do anything special to there Max except be on the .ORG trying to an a$$ wipe... Well the designer is the same guy that drop a supra engine into a Nissan 240 SX and I have personally seen this car.. So suck a d*ck.. And as I said before the fabrication on a straight Six would take some time, changing a front wheel drive car into a rear wheel drive is a project that I am willing to check into and undergo.. I gurantee that it will cost WAYYY less than 98,000 which is the going price to get an R34 Skyline VSpecII from Japan. So What Mod are you trying to be innovative an do...? None.... Well then shut the f*ck up... From the one line that you wrote you show that you don't have ideas just negativity, I don't like negative people..
I love the ignorant people who never even tried to think of something new much less do anything special to there Max except be on the .ORG trying to an a$$ wipe... Well the designer is the same guy that drop a supra engine into a Nissan 240 SX and I have personally seen this car.. So suck a d*ck.. And as I said before the fabrication on a straight Six would take some time, changing a front wheel drive car into a rear wheel drive is a project that I am willing to check into and undergo.. I gurantee that it will cost WAYYY less than 98,000 which is the going price to get an R34 Skyline VSpecII from Japan. So What Mod are you trying to be innovative an do...? None.... Well then shut the f*ck up... From the one line that you wrote you show that you don't have ideas just negativity, I don't like negative people..
Oh yea...and the Skylines are AWD...first of all you'd have to find a place for the trans..and considering the max wasn't designed with room for a AWD/RWD trans..bye bye center console , and this is just to start.
You can tell me I'm not innovative...that's fine with me, I don't have the money to go around trying insane projects like an RB26DETT in my maxima..it's my daily driver and I enjoy it..nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not a negative person. I just hate seeing all these people thinking it's a cinch to toss any motor into any car. I have a friend who put a corvette LS1 in a 95 impala SS....and even though the LT1 (stock motor) and LS1 are both 5.7L RWD Chevy V8s, you wouldn't believe how many hassles he went through just to stuff that motor in there.
If you haven't ever done a custom motor swap or witnessed one..you better STFU right now becuase you have NO IDEA what you're getting yourself into.
#72
Originally posted by avalon42
News about the built engine. It's a gob of information, I barely had time to write down every features imaginable.
Turns out JWT, Crower, and few choice industry others have been working on this engine under our noses. It uses a 300ZX crank, custom billet rods+pistons (oversized of course). The block is a VQ30DET block, it's been stroked, and the thing has been cryo-dipped in almost -400 degrees.
Daily driver, around 17-19psi.
Track, around 27-29 psi.
Drool.
He will include a custom torque convertor and a couple of custom transmission dampeners that has a 3 mode computer. Okay, that didn't make sense.
I will be seeing the engine and stuff next week, you will get a plethora of pics and info then.
-A
News about the built engine. It's a gob of information, I barely had time to write down every features imaginable.
Turns out JWT, Crower, and few choice industry others have been working on this engine under our noses. It uses a 300ZX crank, custom billet rods+pistons (oversized of course). The block is a VQ30DET block, it's been stroked, and the thing has been cryo-dipped in almost -400 degrees.
Daily driver, around 17-19psi.
Track, around 27-29 psi.
Drool.
He will include a custom torque convertor and a couple of custom transmission dampeners that has a 3 mode computer. Okay, that didn't make sense.
I will be seeing the engine and stuff next week, you will get a plethora of pics and info then.
-A
SuDZ
#73
But that is the point isn't it..??? I never said it would be easy nor did I say I started the project... It is one of many ideas that I have been looking at.. The designer that I am working with once worked at the performance factory and now runs his own business here in New York so forgive me if looking into cetain ideas is a crime right Jeff... I guess 1 1/2 year ago when someone said that they would make a turbocharger instead of supercharger for the Max I wonder if they were crazy too... Yoy are right it will costy money for certain engine swaps but then again isn't that what the import scene is about...
Hmmmmmm.....
Hmmmmmm.....
#74
Crime? Only against reality and logic. Although there are many that will do certian swaps just to be different but even those still have to follow certain rules of logistics and sensibility. What you are impling is downright idiotic. Don't try to equate putting a Supra TT engine into a 240sx with putting a RB26DETT into a maxima and making that maxima 4wd. It's not the same animal period. Do you actually know anything about cars or do you just ride on the accomplishments of others?
Originally posted by SonGouko
But that is the point isn't it..??? I never said it would be easy nor did I say I started the project... It is one of many ideas that I have been looking at.. The designer that I am working with once worked at the performance factory and now runs his own business here in New York so forgive me if looking into cetain ideas is a crime right Jeff... I guess 1 1/2 year ago when someone said that they would make a turbocharger instead of supercharger for the Max I wonder if they were crazy too... Yoy are right it will costy money for certain engine swaps but then again isn't that what the import scene is about...
Hmmmmmm.....
But that is the point isn't it..??? I never said it would be easy nor did I say I started the project... It is one of many ideas that I have been looking at.. The designer that I am working with once worked at the performance factory and now runs his own business here in New York so forgive me if looking into cetain ideas is a crime right Jeff... I guess 1 1/2 year ago when someone said that they would make a turbocharger instead of supercharger for the Max I wonder if they were crazy too... Yoy are right it will costy money for certain engine swaps but then again isn't that what the import scene is about...
Hmmmmmm.....
#75
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Crime? Only against reality and logic. Although there are many that will do certian swaps just to be different but even those still have to follow certain rules of logistics and sensibility. What you are impling is downright idiotic. Don't try to equate putting a Supra TT engine into a 240sx with putting a RB26DETT into a maxima and making that maxima 4wd. It's not the same animal period. Do you actually know anything about cars or do you just ride on the accomplishments of others?
Crime? Only against reality and logic. Although there are many that will do certian swaps just to be different but even those still have to follow certain rules of logistics and sensibility. What you are impling is downright idiotic. Don't try to equate putting a Supra TT engine into a 240sx with putting a RB26DETT into a maxima and making that maxima 4wd. It's not the same animal period. Do you actually know anything about cars or do you just ride on the accomplishments of others?
SuDZ
#76
Originally posted by SonGouko
But that is the point isn't it..??? I never said it would be easy nor did I say I started the project... It is one of many ideas that I have been looking at.. The designer that I am working with once worked at the performance factory and now runs his own business here in New York so forgive me if looking into cetain ideas is a crime right Jeff... I guess 1 1/2 year ago when someone said that they would make a turbocharger instead of supercharger for the Max I wonder if they were crazy too... Yoy are right it will costy money for certain engine swaps but then again isn't that what the import scene is about...
Hmmmmmm.....
But that is the point isn't it..??? I never said it would be easy nor did I say I started the project... It is one of many ideas that I have been looking at.. The designer that I am working with once worked at the performance factory and now runs his own business here in New York so forgive me if looking into cetain ideas is a crime right Jeff... I guess 1 1/2 year ago when someone said that they would make a turbocharger instead of supercharger for the Max I wonder if they were crazy too... Yoy are right it will costy money for certain engine swaps but then again isn't that what the import scene is about...
Hmmmmmm.....
#77
i looked in to dropin in a rb once, a while back. total $8,000 and a cover page article in import turbo, and one in import tuner. level 10 gave me their word they could and would do a custom transmission with free labor if mentioned them in the two articles. the guy that said he would do the swap lived in dallas and owned a salvage yard and a shop, he also agreed to free labor if i mentioned him in the articles, he agreed to do the whole swap for 8k including t4 turbo upgrades, install all gauges, and timers, boost controllers ect.
i then rembered how hard it is to even save 1k and then decided against it.
i then rembered how hard it is to even save 1k and then decided against it.
#78
i looked in to dropin in a rb once, a while back. total $8,000 and a cover page article in import turbo, and one in import tuner. level 10 gave me their word they could and would do a custom transmission with free labor if mentioned them in the two articles. the guy that said he would do the swap lived in dallas and owned a salvage yard and a shop, he also agreed to free labor if i mentioned him in the articles, he agreed to do the whole swap for 8k including t4 turbo upgrades, install all gauges, and timers, boost controllers ect.
i then rembered how hard it is to even save 1k and then decided against it.but it would be bad a$$ to have 2 covers, and a rb im ur max!
i then rembered how hard it is to even save 1k and then decided against it.but it would be bad a$$ to have 2 covers, and a rb im ur max!
#79
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Crime? Only against reality and logic. Although there are many that will do certian swaps just to be different but even those still have to follow certain rules of logistics and sensibility. What you are impling is downright idiotic. Don't try to equate putting a Supra TT engine into a 240sx with putting a RB26DETT into a maxima and making that maxima 4wd. It's not the same animal period. Do you actually know anything about cars or do you just ride on the accomplishments of others?
Crime? Only against reality and logic. Although there are many that will do certian swaps just to be different but even those still have to follow certain rules of logistics and sensibility. What you are impling is downright idiotic. Don't try to equate putting a Supra TT engine into a 240sx with putting a RB26DETT into a maxima and making that maxima 4wd. It's not the same animal period. Do you actually know anything about cars or do you just ride on the accomplishments of others?
Funny...there seems to be lots of "haterz" on this forum.
-A
PS Yuck, why would he put the Supra 2JZ motor when he can get a VG30DETT? Stupid, stupid, stupid.