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Old 10-15-2002 | 12:06 PM
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1995 Maxima 190HP vs. 1998 Maxima 222HP

Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the 190HP maxima and 222HP maxima. I looked at it and the engine seems the same. What is the difference? What can I do to gain those 32 horses?

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Old 10-15-2002 | 12:09 PM
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the 1998 maxima didnt have 222HP...........the 222's started in 2K........but yeah they were the same motor until 2k1
Old 10-15-2002 | 01:08 PM
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the 1998 maxima didnt have 222HP...........the 222's started in 2K........but yeah they were the same motor until 2k1
Not correct. Maybe the same block, but not same motor. The reason why 5th gens gained HP with similar engine is due to better intake. You can do a little research in the 5th gen forum that will probably explain a whole lot better than I ever would, but the main difference/reason is the free-breathing intake. This is the reason why a few of our guys have installed the MEVI's.
Old 10-15-2002 | 01:23 PM
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Not correct. Maybe the same block, but not same motor. The reason why 5th gens gained HP with similar engine is due to better intake. You can do a little research in the 5th gen forum that will probably explain a whole lot better than I ever would, but the main difference/reason is the free-breathing intake. This is the reason why a few of our guys have installed the MEVI's.
Didn't the pistons also get a new low friction molybdenum coat, or is that present on 4th gen engines as well?

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Old 10-15-2002 | 01:31 PM
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Didn't the pistons also get a new low friction molybdenum coat, or is that present on 4th gen engines as well?

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The 4th gens have that too. They didn't start really advertising it until the 5th gen came out. Internally the 4th and 5th gen motors are identical.
Old 10-15-2002 | 01:31 PM
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Didn't the pistons also get a new low friction molybdenum coat, or is that present on 4th gen engines as well?

RL
I am not sure about that part. Even if they did, I highly doubt that much HP could be attributed to that. It is mostly the intake (VI).
Old 10-15-2002 | 01:36 PM
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I am not sure about that part. Even if they did, I highly doubt that much HP could be attributed to that. It is mostly the intake (VI).
would that intake fit a 4tg gen? im just curious
Old 10-15-2002 | 02:29 PM
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Why can't we just take the intake menafold of a 2k or 2k1 Max and stick it onto a 4th gen? Won't that be like getting VI for the 4th gen? Or it won't work?
Old 10-15-2002 | 02:33 PM
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Why can't we just take the intake menafold of a 2k or 2k1 Max and stick it onto a 4th gen? Won't that be like getting VI for the 4th gen? Or it won't work?
too tall unless you want a custom hood with a big bulge...
Old 10-15-2002 | 02:39 PM
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too tall unless you want a custom hood with a big bulge...

It's actually NOT too tall...BUT there are many things that you would have to change and account for to swap the 5th gen manifold onto a 4th gen. This has been addressed before. If you want to find out more information...try searching.

This shouldn't even be an issue now since we have the 4th gen variable intake manifold available.
Old 10-15-2002 | 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax



This shouldn't even be an issue now since we have the 4th gen variable intake manifold available.

it will be an issue forever..lol

people do not read the FAQ and do not search AND they do not follow up on the info posted in threads like this one
Old 10-15-2002 | 02:59 PM
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if you want more HP from stock.. just buy a 2k3.
Old 10-15-2002 | 04:04 PM
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yeah just buy a 2k3. 255Hp on a six speed. Sweeet!!!.
Old 10-15-2002 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by JAIMECBR900


Not correct. Maybe the same block, but not same motor. The reason why 5th gens gained HP with similar engine is due to better intake. You can do a little research in the 5th gen forum that will probably explain a whole lot better than I ever would, but the main difference/reason is the free-breathing intake. This is the reason why a few of our guys have installed the MEVI's.
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What is an MEVI?
Old 10-15-2002 | 07:48 PM
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MEVI

middle east variable intake. They have a group deal that I think is still open. Search for 'mevi' or 'vi' or 'mevi group deal'.
Old 10-15-2002 | 08:11 PM
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Re: MEVI

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middle east variable intake. They have a group deal that I think is still open. Search for 'mevi' or 'vi' or 'mevi group deal'.
just to clarify something, you can't search a two letter word. your search will come back and say something to the effect of "your search must be atleast 3 character long". trust me. i have tried searches with some words being two letters. no luck. and you can get in on the group deals that are going on.
Old 10-15-2002 | 10:12 PM
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Re: 1995 Maxima 190HP vs. 1998 Maxima 222HP

Originally posted by StealthMaxX
Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the 190HP maxima and 222HP maxima. I looked at it and the engine seems the same. What is the difference? What can I do to gain those 32 horses?

get back to me at my email

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the 95-99 has 190hp.the 2k-2k1 has 222hp.most of the gain are from the variable intake,and 2k2-2k3 has 255hp and this one is a totally different animal.welcome to the org.
Old 10-15-2002 | 10:30 PM
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The manifold on the 5th gen is strictly ECU controlled, unlike the MEVI from the 4th gens, which can be controlled by a vacuum canister...
Old 10-15-2002 | 10:45 PM
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Old 10-15-2002 | 11:56 PM
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yeah just buy a 2k3. 255Hp on a six speed. Sweeet!!!.
or u can always buy a 02-03 altima 3.5 SE 5spd for 240 HP @ cheaper price, cheaper insurance, and lighter weight =)



but after all this is still a maximaforum so wat can i say....
Old 10-16-2002 | 12:19 AM
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or u can always buy a 02-03 altima 3.5 SE 5spd for 240 HP @ cheaper price, cheaper insurance, and lighter weight =)



but after all this is still a maximaforum so wat can i say....

ummm...'02-'03 max is 10lbs LIGHTER than the '02-'03 alty....
Old 10-16-2002 | 11:18 AM
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My fault, mixed up the years up.

So basically a MEVI would give me those extra 32 HP? Variable intake is what makes this get all that HP.

I'm a newbie with Maximas, just got one not too long ago. 95 SE.
Old 10-16-2002 | 01:18 PM
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if you want more HP from stock.. just buy a 2k3.
To much money for the extra HP. I think a 560 dollar VI is a better deal that a 26,000 dollar vehicle upgrade.
Old 10-16-2002 | 01:42 PM
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To much money for the extra HP. I think a 560 dollar VI is a better deal that a 26,000 dollar vehicle upgrade.
and is the hassle of the VI even worth it yet? no.
Old 10-16-2002 | 06:57 PM
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and is the hassle of the VI even worth it yet? no.

Do you have a VI??? I don't think so...so why are you ragging on them??

Mine wasn't a hassle at all...and it works great.

You haven't experienced what a 4th gen can really be like until you've driven one with a VI. It gives the car a whole new personality. You can actually wind it out now...and get POWER...
Old 10-16-2002 | 07:23 PM
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intake

the 5th gen vi gets a signal from the ecm to switch a relay to activate vacuum just like the mevi. the mevi uses a rpm switch(harlan or other) to activate in the SAME mannor.
Old 10-16-2002 | 07:58 PM
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It's actually NOT too tall...BUT there are many things that you would have to change and account for to swap the 5th gen manifold onto a 4th gen. This has been addressed before. If you want to find out more information...try searching.

This shouldn't even be an issue now since we have the 4th gen variable intake manifold available.
heres another thing to consider.
you would have to get a VI from a 5th gen with manual tranny. if that setup is like the one on the 3rd gens you will be hard pressed to find the correct manifold form used parts dealers. the 3rd gens only had the VI on the 5sp, the outo's looked the part but did not function the same internally. seeing that most of the 5th gens on the road are automatics good luck.
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heres another thing to consider.
you would have to get a VI from a 5th gen with manual tranny. if that setup is like the one on the 3rd gens you will be hard pressed to find the correct manifold form used parts dealers. the 3rd gens only had the VI on the 5sp, the outo's looked the part but did not function the same internally. seeing that most of the 5th gens on the road are automatics good luck.
I don't need to consider it because I already have a MEVI
Old 10-16-2002 | 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
To much money for the extra HP. I think a 560 dollar VI is a better deal that a 26,000 dollar vehicle upgrade.
me too,why not use what you got now and mod the hell out of it.
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I have been hearing more and more that my 98 Se 5 Speed has 200hp and not 190. I keep on telling the people that they are wrong but they say that I am wrong? Who is right?
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and is the hassle of the VI even worth it yet? no.
Rather deal with the hassle of the VI than a dumba$$ sales man.
Old 10-17-2002 | 05:19 AM
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I have been hearing more and more that my 98 Se 5 Speed has 200hp and not 190. I keep on telling the people tha they are wrong but they say that I am wrong? Who is right?
You are right!
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I don't need to consider it because I already have a MEVI
i knew you had a VI. i was just trying to add to your post
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