Sprint VS. Eibach
#1
Sprint VS. Eibach
I am getting some lowering springs and I am curious what springs are recommended for the Maxima. I have heard that the warrenty on the Eibach is poor and that the Sprints are really stiff. What are some suggestions from my fellow Org. members?
-King Ryan-
-King Ryan-
#3
I have eibach and i love em. I do wish the drop was lower... but then i would have to trade that for the quality of the ride. The springs do lower u just over an inch and give u a stiffer ride. I like em, they don't bounce alot and aren't really stiff either. If u want that lowered look... go w/ sprints.
Also, if you're planning to get a bodykit anytime, the springs may cause u a problem w/ scraping and whatnot. Just keep that in mind too. Good luck.
Also, if you're planning to get a bodykit anytime, the springs may cause u a problem w/ scraping and whatnot. Just keep that in mind too. Good luck.
#4
It all depends on where you live also. Sprint does have the lowest drop, but it you plan to get a kit later, good luck with the bumbs in the road. Eibach are a ok drop. And if you plan to get the KYB AGX struts good luck with your warranty. because they don't warranty it if you use springs that drop past 1.7. And sprints are 2.0
#5
I had Sprints. Now I'm back to stock. I'm switching to Eibachs next Spring. The Sprints, but are too low. There is virtually no suspension travel left with Sprints. I love the ride of the stock springs, but I miss the handling that I had with the Sprints, so I figured I'd give the Eibachs a shot.
Later,
-Nick
Later,
-Nick
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Nick is right, Sprint Springs don't leave you with much suspension travel. Not good for an everyday driver. I've done enough installs to see this for myself. Our cars don't do well with 2 inch drops.
Eibach is an excellent spring!
You should consider H&R's as well.
1) They drop slightly more then Eibach's, however they will not void the warranty on your Struts.
2) German Engineering
3) The smoothest ride
4) Awsome handling
5) Pretty blue color
Seriously, I think Eibach and H&R are the top springs for our cars.
Woops, almost forgot - B&G's are pretty good as well. The drop is slightly more then H&R and there pretty stiff, more of a performance spring. They will void the warranty on your struts thou....
KYB Warranty is up to 1.5 inch drop.
Eibach is an excellent spring!
You should consider H&R's as well.
1) They drop slightly more then Eibach's, however they will not void the warranty on your Struts.
2) German Engineering
3) The smoothest ride
4) Awsome handling
5) Pretty blue color
Seriously, I think Eibach and H&R are the top springs for our cars.
Woops, almost forgot - B&G's are pretty good as well. The drop is slightly more then H&R and there pretty stiff, more of a performance spring. They will void the warranty on your struts thou....
KYB Warranty is up to 1.5 inch drop.
#8
What about...
Sprint is not the lowest drop available for the Maxima. I think OBX makes 'em for us and drop the car 3 inches. I just looked at them on another website and I hear they are more stiff than coil-overs can offer. Anyways, I think I may go with the Eibachs. I am not too keen on losing a warrenty on new struts yet. Thanks for the advice and suggestions!
-King Ryan-
-King Ryan-
#10
Re: What about...
Originally posted by Linkage23
Sprint is not the lowest drop available for the Maxima. I think OBX makes 'em for us and drop the car 3 inches. I just looked at them on another website and I hear they are more stiff than coil-overs can offer. Anyways, I think I may go with the Eibachs. I am not too keen on losing a warrenty on new struts yet. Thanks for the advice and suggestions!
-King Ryan-
Sprint is not the lowest drop available for the Maxima. I think OBX makes 'em for us and drop the car 3 inches. I just looked at them on another website and I hear they are more stiff than coil-overs can offer. Anyways, I think I may go with the Eibachs. I am not too keen on losing a warrenty on new struts yet. Thanks for the advice and suggestions!
-King Ryan-
#11
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Woops, almost forgot - B&G's are pretty good as well. The drop is slightly more then H&R and there pretty stiff, more of a performance spring. They will void the warranty on your struts thou....
Woops, almost forgot - B&G's are pretty good as well. The drop is slightly more then H&R and there pretty stiff, more of a performance spring. They will void the warranty on your struts thou....
#12
Eibach/H&R, Tokico/KYB
I currently have Eibach+Tokico, and the ride's on the harsh side with me on these Philly streets. From what I'm reading here, H&R would have kep the ride a bit softer/smoother. Worth the switch? Will KYB AGXs make enough difference to switch as well?
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Nick is right, Sprint Springs don't leave you with much suspension travel. Not good for an everyday driver. I've done enough installs to see this for myself. Our cars don't do well with 2 inch drops.
Eibach is an excellent spring!
You should consider H&R's as well.
1) They drop slightly more then Eibach's, however they will not void the warranty on your Struts.
2) German Engineering
3) The smoothest ride
4) Awsome handling
5) Pretty blue color
Seriously, I think Eibach and H&R are the top springs for our cars.
Woops, almost forgot - B&G's are pretty good as well. The drop is slightly more then H&R and there pretty stiff, more of a performance spring. They will void the warranty on your struts thou....
KYB Warranty is up to 1.5 inch drop.
Nick is right, Sprint Springs don't leave you with much suspension travel. Not good for an everyday driver. I've done enough installs to see this for myself. Our cars don't do well with 2 inch drops.
Eibach is an excellent spring!
You should consider H&R's as well.
1) They drop slightly more then Eibach's, however they will not void the warranty on your Struts.
2) German Engineering
3) The smoothest ride
4) Awsome handling
5) Pretty blue color
Seriously, I think Eibach and H&R are the top springs for our cars.
Woops, almost forgot - B&G's are pretty good as well. The drop is slightly more then H&R and there pretty stiff, more of a performance spring. They will void the warranty on your struts thou....
KYB Warranty is up to 1.5 inch drop.
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Originally posted by spiff56747
so, would you say B+G's are harsher than H&R's? For example, if I switched to H&R's from B+G's, would I notice a somewhat smoother ride? Because my AGX/B+G combo can get pretty harsh over bad roads.
so, would you say B+G's are harsher than H&R's? For example, if I switched to H&R's from B+G's, would I notice a somewhat smoother ride? Because my AGX/B+G combo can get pretty harsh over bad roads.
#14
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
YES - I actually made that same switch myself! I went from B&G/AGX to H&R/AGX Much better ride.
YES - I actually made that same switch myself! I went from B&G/AGX to H&R/AGX Much better ride.
Nice! I'll seriously consider this swap then.. BTW, do you notice that you car sits higher with the H&Rs? It should only be a .2 or .3 inch difference, but is it really noticeable? Thanks
#15
Re: Eibach/H&R, Tokico/KYB
Originally posted by philpoe
I currently have Eibach+Tokico, and the ride's on the harsh side with me on these Philly streets. From what I'm reading here, H&R would have kep the ride a bit softer/smoother. Worth the switch? Will KYB AGXs make enough difference to switch as well?
I currently have Eibach+Tokico, and the ride's on the harsh side with me on these Philly streets. From what I'm reading here, H&R would have kep the ride a bit softer/smoother. Worth the switch? Will KYB AGXs make enough difference to switch as well?
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Originally posted by spiff56747
Nice! I'll seriously consider this swap then.. BTW, do you notice that you car sits higher with the H&Rs? It should only be a .2 or .3 inch difference, but is it really noticeable? Thanks
Nice! I'll seriously consider this swap then.. BTW, do you notice that you car sits higher with the H&Rs? It should only be a .2 or .3 inch difference, but is it really noticeable? Thanks
Here's a current pic of my car on H&R/AGX.
#19
nice drop!!!
thats the kind of drop i'm looking for...i was considering progress springs for a bit, but i gotta stick to quality too!! i'm all for h&r's!! peace!
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Yes, most noticable in the rear. On B&G's my car looked a bit on the slammed side. With the H&R's it just looks great!
Here's a current pic of my car on H&R/AGX.
Yes, most noticable in the rear. On B&G's my car looked a bit on the slammed side. With the H&R's it just looks great!
Here's a current pic of my car on H&R/AGX.
#21
Check out my homepage for pics of stock wheels and Sprints. With the stock wheels setup, the Sprint's are pretty good. Ride is good and handling is as good. I do have the Koni struts though. With larger wheels however, it's not as good because I think the larger wheels take up more space thus lessen the suspension travel even more.
#22
Originally posted by 99maximagxe
The lower the drop the better the handling.
The lower the drop the better the handling.
For a street driven car that must encounter varying road conditions (smooth roads to bumpy roads, potholes and railroad track crossings) the best handling would be achieved by increasing the stiffness of the springs w/ modest lowering paired with a set of shocks/.struts that are valved with enough compression and rebound dampening to control the stiffer spring. Due to the limited amt of suspension travel in Maximas, signficant lowering (1.5" or more) will result in worse handling and loss of traction if the suspension is bottoms out.
#24
Originally posted by ladeesman
Ok so can someone tell me what to do? I want to look lower ie not 4x4ing, but not slammed....I live in NC and have fairly rough roads, that and im fairly poor....come on people lend me your ear!!
Ok so can someone tell me what to do? I want to look lower ie not 4x4ing, but not slammed....I live in NC and have fairly rough roads, that and im fairly poor....come on people lend me your ear!!
That's my drop w/ the eibach prokit... with STOCK struts. Perhaps you can just get the springs and leave the struts the same... granted it's not recommended but honestly, i commute on the highway.... i have over 60k miles on that springs and all my struts are working fine. As long as you don't go offroading, i think you'll be fine because the drop w/ eibachs is a little over an inch and the ride is stiff and NOT bouncy.
#26
Originally posted by ladeesman
Ok so can someone tell me what to do? I want to look lower ie not 4x4ing, but not slammed....I live in NC and have fairly rough roads, that and im fairly poor....come on people lend me your ear!!
Ok so can someone tell me what to do? I want to look lower ie not 4x4ing, but not slammed....I live in NC and have fairly rough roads, that and im fairly poor....come on people lend me your ear!!
-Cyrus
#27
If you go with too big of a drop you will have to get new stuts/shocks because the drop will be too much on the stock struts/shocks. Your's have quite a few miles on them, it might be a good idea to go ahead and shell out the cash and do the whole suspension.
#29
Originally posted by ladeesman
But Les I'm poor...not to mention you people need to decide.
But Les I'm poor...not to mention you people need to decide.
#31
Originally posted by ladeesman
Bah, I don't want to drop it that much so it shouldnt get that rough....but Your talking 800 or so for all that.
Bah, I don't want to drop it that much so it shouldnt get that rough....but Your talking 800 or so for all that.
Tokico struts/shocks ~$310
Eibach springs ~$220
Sprint springs ~175
KYB's and Koni's are cheaper than Tok's, but I don't have the prices in front of me.
#32
Originally posted by ladeesman
Bah, I don't want to drop it that much so it shouldnt get that rough....but Your talking 800 or so for all that.
Bah, I don't want to drop it that much so it shouldnt get that rough....but Your talking 800 or so for all that.
omfg just buy the Eibach prokit springs.... $250. I don't know about the labor costs or how u want to install em... but if you're poor maybe u should just hang on to the idea of lowering your car until u've saved up. Trust me, i know how it is to be poor... whenever i want to mod, i save money up little by little, but u get there eventually.
#33
Re: Eibach/H&R, Tokico/KYB
Originally posted by philpoe
I currently have Eibach+Tokico, and the ride's on the harsh side with me on these Philly streets. From what I'm reading here, H&R would have kep the ride a bit softer/smoother. Worth the switch? Will KYB AGXs make enough difference to switch as well?
I currently have Eibach+Tokico, and the ride's on the harsh side with me on these Philly streets. From what I'm reading here, H&R would have kep the ride a bit softer/smoother. Worth the switch? Will KYB AGXs make enough difference to switch as well?
#34
Originally posted by meccanoble
how would they know????
i mean if u call and say the shocks are blown and tell them u have eibach's when u have sprints, how will they know???
how would they know????
i mean if u call and say the shocks are blown and tell them u have eibach's when u have sprints, how will they know???
They know because when they are blown out they cut them open and see where the shock has been oscillating at. They dont know what springs you use but they know how much of a drop by the wear in the strut.
#36
Originally posted by ladeesman
I'm just hearing so many differnt things....I have the money for the eibach...just no the struts too..
I'm just hearing so many differnt things....I have the money for the eibach...just no the struts too..
i have 140k miles... 60k+ on springs and i've done some crazy **** before... if u don't believe me, check out this video lol
http://www.socalaudiclub.com/videos/...meetdrive.mpeg
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#37
Originally posted by ladeesman
Ok so can someone tell me what to do? I want to look lower ie not 4x4ing, but not slammed....I live in NC and have fairly rough roads, that and im fairly poor....come on people lend me your ear!!
Ok so can someone tell me what to do? I want to look lower ie not 4x4ing, but not slammed....I live in NC and have fairly rough roads, that and im fairly poor....come on people lend me your ear!!
Since you have fairly rough roads, I think this $300 set up would be ideal - decent amt of lowering (w/o slamming the car), relatively compliant spring rate and decent quality shocks that are somewhat stiffer than stock to deal with the increased spring rate.
Best of all, $300 includes BOTH new springs AND shocks/struts.
#38
Originally posted by GlenH
If you want to be really cheap, just get the Maxspeed springs for $80-$100 and pair them with KYB GR2s which should cost about $200 for all 4. Thus for $300, you will have slightly lower car than with Eibachs and more comfortable ride quality.
Since you have fairly rough roads, I think this $300 set up would be ideal - decent amt of lowering (w/o slamming the car), relatively compliant spring rate and decent quality shocks that are somewhat stiffer than stock to deal with the increased spring rate.
Best of all, $300 includes BOTH new springs AND shocks/struts.
If you want to be really cheap, just get the Maxspeed springs for $80-$100 and pair them with KYB GR2s which should cost about $200 for all 4. Thus for $300, you will have slightly lower car than with Eibachs and more comfortable ride quality.
Since you have fairly rough roads, I think this $300 set up would be ideal - decent amt of lowering (w/o slamming the car), relatively compliant spring rate and decent quality shocks that are somewhat stiffer than stock to deal with the increased spring rate.
Best of all, $300 includes BOTH new springs AND shocks/struts.
#39
i don't really see the point of buying eibach's over H&R's when they both have approximately the same drop, but the eibach's are harsher. unless you want better handling of course.
also, arent KYB GR2's just stock replacements.. so there wouldnt be much point in installing them with lowering springs, unless your stock shocks/struts were completely blown..
also, arent KYB GR2's just stock replacements.. so there wouldnt be much point in installing them with lowering springs, unless your stock shocks/struts were completely blown..
#40
Originally posted by spiff56747
i don't really see the point of buying eibach's over H&R's when they both have approximately the same drop, but the eibach's are harsher. unless you want better handling of course.
also, arent KYB GR2's just stock replacements.. so there wouldnt be much point in installing them with lowering springs, unless your stock shocks/struts were completely blown..
i don't really see the point of buying eibach's over H&R's when they both have approximately the same drop, but the eibach's are harsher. unless you want better handling of course.
also, arent KYB GR2's just stock replacements.. so there wouldnt be much point in installing them with lowering springs, unless your stock shocks/struts were completely blown..