If you dont want your car with all that fender well gap get sprints. The car will also handle a bit better. Why spend all that money when you can get some springs @ 50% the cost of Eibachs. Eibachs are good springs. But sprints cost less and and make the car look a whole lot better.

 

Finally somebody else on here knows what their talking about with suspensions!

I couldn't have said that any better. Nice post GlenH

 

If you live in a city w/jacked up streets like NY, New Orleans and son on, you cant go below 1.5. And he is correct 100% on worse handling in a place that has many potholes and bad streets. But if you live in a city where roads are nice then you can go below down 2 inch drop or lower. If your a true Rice man you ll throw all this info away and go on ahead and drop your car at 2 or below.

 

so agx is the choice, the question to be answered is... eibachs or H&R's.. i need an opinion by the spring... money is no object, quality and performance is most important.

 

to what everyone has posted the no drop H&Rs is the way to go for ride comfort. Those cost about $220 not too sure. AGX will be a great combination to go w/H&Rs.

 

Eibach - Very firm spring, excellent handling at the expense of a harsh ride.

H&R - Softer spring then Eibach, excellent handling and a smooth stock like ride.

 

Hmmm....have you seen Maxima with H&Rs installed? I have a 5 speed 96 SE with slightly shorter than stock 16s riding on H&Rs. The front fender gap is 1.8" and the rear is 1.6". That's a pretty obviously drop over stock.

I'm on my 3rd set of springs and in terms of ride, they're light years better and on all, but the smoothest roads, they are the best handling by a long shot.


Dave

 

Which springs have you had experience with?

 

Thanks!

 

My bad. I never really priced the GR2s. I'm running AGXs. In my past experience the AGXs have been about 2x the cost of the GR2s for the other cars I've worked on.

Still, $320 - $350 for Maxspeed springs and GR2s would be a decent budget lowering upgrade that would still give fairly compliant ride quality.

As for whether or not GR2s have more dampening than stock, past messages on this forum indicate that they do (I think I read something like 15% firmer or something like that). When paired with relatively compliant springs like H&Rs and Maxspeeds, they should be able to handle them.

Again, we're talking about keeping it cheap. I would definitely recommend the AGXs over the GR2s, but they are signficantly more expensive.

 

Ok I'm leaning toward H&R's....now how well is that going to work with the stock struts?

 

If you had a 3rd gen you could get some KYB GR2's for $172 at http://www.jagworks.com with free shipping.

 

I am a rice man, was not trying to offend ya ride , I am on my third set of springs as well. Eibach, Intrax, dropzone and back to intrax. I lowered quite a bit of maximas with H&Rs. If your a max owner you ll notice the drop but if your not you really wont notice it since our fenderwells are so large. I am not against them I just told the man to get H&Rs. Want to see some pics of cars with HRS here check it out

http://images.cardomain.com/installs...227_8_full.jpg

 

OK. Now I'm leaning toward the H&Rs. I'm a little confused here though. If I get the H&Rs, will the handling improve over stock? I'm looking for a close-to-stock ride, but with better handling. I thought that the H&Rs don't do much for handling, but as long as it's an improvement over stock, then I'll try them out. The other problem though is that I heard H&Rs have a sagging problem. I have at least 100lbs. of stereo equipment in my trunk. Am I gonna have a sagging problem if I get the H&Rs?

Thanks,
-Nick

 

Big improvement over stock.
H&R's don't sag.

What happens is the 5 speed trannys don't weigh as much as auto's do. In that case, the front stands up more because it's lighter which some think is the rear sagging is really the front standing up.

Sure if you put 100 lbs of equipment in your trunk you car will reflect it. Fact is any car would show it!

 

I have H&Rs and KYB GR-2's. excellent ride and handling. they are definatly firmer than stock. i had stock struts before i switched to the GR-2s. They handle great for autocross, and give you a great ride. I dont think KYBs are worth it in this case because you dont need that stiff of a shock/strut with the H&Rs. either way, you cant go wrong with H&R/KYB combo.

Hall

 

Tom is your SE-L an auto or 5 speed. i see a lot of Max's riding on H&R's and don't look as good as yours. maybe cause they're 5 speeds like mine. i just dont want to put the time money and effort into these H&r's and have my front end riding high, when i should've gone with eibachs and getting the drop i'm looking for, but giving up ride comfort quality which i would like to retain.. i am going to keep doing my reaserch until spring time when i will start ordering the parts..

thank you.

 

HELLO GUYS....the subject of this thread was Sprint VS. Eibach......not, "lets all bash on sprint springs when most of us don't even have them...and then end up recommending a spring that wasn't even in the subject line".

Nick is the only person I know if on here who has had a bad experience with Sprint Springs.

I've had Sprints/AGXs for the better part of a year...and been over some BIG bumps and NOT ONCE has my suspension bottomed out. Sprints give probably the best handling you can get without going coilover, the best drop, AND they are the cheapest. The only downside is a bit harsh of a ride...nowhere near as harsh as some ground control coilovers though.

 

I dont know why peeps talk bad shyt and dont even have them on their cars. Geez suspension topics becoming a freaking ****ing contest sometimes. Is like this: you want cush and comfort and lots of fenderwell gap get something that doesnt drop the car below 1.5. You want yo shyt to look and sit right get sprints or coil overs. And if your going with a 2 inch drop do yourself a favor and dont get the Mickey Mouse Blue Tockico shocks.

 

I still love the Sprints. The handling was awesome, and you can't get a better drop. They were just too low for my area. The roads aren't that great around here.

Later,
-Nick

 

my point EXACTLY....so that makes it NO ONE who doesn't like sprints and actually HAS them.