Okay, so my car is dead for a bit, and while it is in the shop, I am borrowing my mom's i-30. It is a 95 or 96, the bug looking ones, and since her engine looks nothing like mine, I assume it is equivlent to a 3rd gen max? Anyway, her car has as much pick up and go at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle as mine has floored (I have a 98 max). What gives?

 

It has the same engine as you, maybe you should get your throttle body cleaned or something?

 

Were you expecting comparing it to a 3rd gen would make it slow?

 

No, but I assumed that if a noticable difference in acceleration was present, it would be the 4th gen being faster. I based my assumption off of a 4th gen vs 5th gen comparison: 4th gens aren't slow, but 5th gens are faster bone stock, and I didn't think it made sense to produce successively slower vehicles. For all I know, 3rd and 4th gens may be evenly matched. I didn't mean any harm.

 

Bug looking one???? The engine looks nothing like your 98?????

 

maybe they don't look alike because one says infiniti and the other nissan..
try looking at the motors again!

 

The first year of the I30 was 96. It is merely a dressed up Max. It will have the same engine trans, suspesion and all that as your 98.

I still dont know what you mean by "bug looking"...

 

The only 5th gens faster stock are the 02/03's because the 00/01's arent, the manuals are about equal and the auto the 4th gen autos are a tad quicker stock.

 

That's a J30 which has the 300ZX engine, not the Max engine. It was pretty quick if I can recall, but it has that butt ugly sloping trunk. At the time it sold, I believe it was a little over-priced.

 

J-30. I have no idea where I got the idea that there was a cursive I on the back of it. It is definately a J Someone needs to shoot me because I am stupid

 

Where is my gun!!

 

Just FYI, that J30 is much slower than your Max.

They run 0-60 in the high-8 second range.

 

93 J30 specs

Front Suspension
Extended-travel MacPherson strut type w/ 24.0 mm stabilizer bar

Rear Suspension
Patented, new generation, double-isolated
multi-link type with 19.1 mm (Base), 17.3 mm (t)
stabilizer bar


Fuel Tank (gal.)
19

Engine Coolants (qts.)
9.75 with reservoir

Curb Weight (lbs.)
3,527 (J30)/ 3,533 (J30t)

Weight Distribution (F/R %)
57/43

FUEL ECONOMY*
Highway/City (mpg)
23/18

0 - 60
8.3 sec. **

1/4 Mile
15.0 sec. **

Maximum Speed
128 mph computer limited

 

I think that that 0-60 time isn't THAT far off of what most autragic Maxes get, but that Quarter Mile time is DEFINATELY faster than most stock auto Maxes.

15.0 is a good time for a stock 5 spd Max.

And the J30 is RWD. And does have a N/A 300zx motor. Can you say engine swap sleeper? I beleive it has actually been done.

The J30 is no slouch, the exterior styling was just WAY ahead of its time. The interior, ever been in a 97 J30 with an interior in good condition? I have. They put the Maxima/i30 to SHAME. BTW, see what I drive?

 

J30's use the same parts as the 1989-1994 3rd gens with the VG engine. So I'm guessing you are feeling 160 hp and about 180 ft-lbs. The VG pulls very strong off the line.

I was just joking around about the 3rd gen thing. VE 5 speeds will match everything except the 02's stock (the 00-01's might have an edge too, but they are still a little heavy). And yes, 4th gens are a little lighter and have more torque, but VE's have some nice top end.

Enough said, please don't start a gen war after I hit the post button

 

i wouldn't say the J30 is strong of the line because it lacks the low end torque that the Maxima is blessed with. it isn't until 4K rpm it is in it's power area. that's why it shows truer colors in the 1/4mi then the 1/8 or 0-60. that's why i prefer to drive the I30 around town instead of my J30. More red light to red light ummph.

fst96se, you're are VERY right about the interior styling. I own a 93 J and a 96 I30 and the J30 still looks brand new..no exageration here. People ask me if I've redone the interior but it's original. The I30 leather, doors, dash all look Worn. The styling of the J is definately better to. The I30 is more traveling friendly though. Plusher leather seats and a warmer, softer environment. The J's is kind of sported out on a luxury level. I'm torn between the two every morning. and that's not a problem for me.hehehe

 

The J30's a classy car. I've heard that the VG motor in them makes like 215 hp, like the NA 300zx. Not great off the line, but very good on the highway.

Now is it just me, or should Inifiniti have called the G35 the J35?? It's the perfect evolution of the RWD sports sedan. G20 to G35?? What gives?

DW

 

Yeah, that is what surprised me. I have driven it short distances before, and I thought my car was faster. Then the other day I punched it passing somebody, and I was shocked at how much power it had at 3/4 throttle.

 

15.0 from a stock J30 is only happening in someone's dreams.

 

I based the "strong off the line" assumption on the 3rd gens VG30E engine. The J30 actually uses the N/A 300zx engine (VG30DE). That's why it shares some parts with the VG 3rd gens. Also the chasis code for 3rd gens maximas is J30. Interesting isn't it?

 

That's because VE 5-spds have a VI.

Take a 4th Gen with a VI vs a VE, and th 4th Gen will win. Sam with the 4th Gen vs the 00-01 5th Gens.

IanS

 

Thats the truth, no way that car is a 16.** 1/4 mile and definately high 8's to 60. I rememeber back in the day with my old 93 GXE I took one and he remained at my rear end up to 60.

 

I said no gen wars, I was just making a couple of generalizations. We know that cars with VI's have better top end, I think that was my point in the first place, but I was referring to stock.

 

well the 1/4 mile time was from infiniti themselves...but as always 1/4 times are subjective to lots of things. i'm sure there's no need to explain those here since most of you have been to the track a few times. the closest 1/4 mile track to my home is about 2+ hours away and when i did go it rained. I'm curious what the time would be as well. Of course the J is not stock so times would be worthless as a baseline.

as for why the G35 was named a G instead of a J..the J was completely discontinued therefore the J has been put to rest. The G has had a coninuous production run as the G20 lined right up with the beginning of the G35. Much like the I30 and I35. But I know what you're getting at..they seem to be on two different luxo levels..yeah they do..who knows but hey, they're actually selling cars now so stick with what works

 

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