Max VS VW
#1
Max VS VW
I got my 99 SE about 2 months ago. This morning i took my dads 1.8T passat out for a spin to see how it felt compared to my maxima that ive been driving. Both are stock. I was impressed with the Passat which has a 4 cylinder. What do you you think would win in a race? they are both 5 speeds.
Another question: My 99 se had 51K miles on it when i bought it. the car is fully loaded Leather, Bose, cold weather, etc. The exterior and interior look good as new. i paid 13,500 for the car from the dealership. do you guys think I got a good deal? i feel like i did, but i wanted to know what others think.
also, im thinking of putting Dunlop A2 Sport tires on, ive read good things about them. is there another tire i should look at?
thanx
Another question: My 99 se had 51K miles on it when i bought it. the car is fully loaded Leather, Bose, cold weather, etc. The exterior and interior look good as new. i paid 13,500 for the car from the dealership. do you guys think I got a good deal? i feel like i did, but i wanted to know what others think.
also, im thinking of putting Dunlop A2 Sport tires on, ive read good things about them. is there another tire i should look at?
thanx
#2
Personally, I'd have to say you got a pretty good deal. I've been searching for a Maxima, and I've yet to find a fully optioned '98 for less than 13,500, and that's with more miles (I'm looking for older, though, but there's an annoying lack of '95 and '96 5-speeds here in Maine...). So yeah, I'd have to say you got a pretty good deal on that car. I, personally, am jealous.
As for the Passat, I can't imagine it would be much of a race. I don't have exact numbers in front of me, but a Jetta 1.8T runs a 15.7 in the 1/4, so you figure another hundred pounds or so is only gonna slow it down. Challenge your dad to a race, see what happens.
As for the Passat, I can't imagine it would be much of a race. I don't have exact numbers in front of me, but a Jetta 1.8T runs a 15.7 in the 1/4, so you figure another hundred pounds or so is only gonna slow it down. Challenge your dad to a race, see what happens.
#4
i've beaten a VR6 passat on my way to work one day. He had from the sound of it intake and rims and exhaust. I beat him easily so you should have no problem...
another thing is that the passat is heavier than the Jetta's and GTI's so if you've beaten them before (none chipped of course), then you should win.
another thing is that the passat is heavier than the Jetta's and GTI's so if you've beaten them before (none chipped of course), then you should win.
#5
Originally posted by Campy
Personally, I'd have to say you got a pretty good deal. I've been searching for a Maxima, and I've yet to find a fully optioned '98 for less than 13,500, and that's with more miles (I'm looking for older, though, but there's an annoying lack of '95 and '96 5-speeds here in Maine...). So yeah, I'd have to say you got a pretty good deal on that car. I, personally, am jealous.
Personally, I'd have to say you got a pretty good deal. I've been searching for a Maxima, and I've yet to find a fully optioned '98 for less than 13,500, and that's with more miles (I'm looking for older, though, but there's an annoying lack of '95 and '96 5-speeds here in Maine...). So yeah, I'd have to say you got a pretty good deal on that car. I, personally, am jealous.
#6
Originally posted by TheSoundSoldier
My 98, fully loaded, with 63k miles, cost like 16k when I bought my car in June of '01...13,5 with 51k is a nice steal!!
My 98, fully loaded, with 63k miles, cost like 16k when I bought my car in June of '01...13,5 with 51k is a nice steal!!
#7
Originally posted by D-sta
yup that's a real good price, I'm looking for one for my bro now. Also I think that a passat shouldn't give you any problems.
yup that's a real good price, I'm looking for one for my bro now. Also I think that a passat shouldn't give you any problems.
#8
Re: Max VS VW
Originally posted by Dstyle
also, im thinking of putting Dunlop A2 Sport tires on, ive read good things about them. is there another tire i should look at?
thanx
also, im thinking of putting Dunlop A2 Sport tires on, ive read good things about them. is there another tire i should look at?
thanx
So, based on what I read and experiences from people I know, I went with Potenza RE950s. I like them a lot... and they are decent in snow, awesome in the wet, and I have no complaints when dry.
I was particularly impressed with the wet traction. I get the biggest thrill out of lateral slides and these tires make them very easy to control... and predictable.
Consequently, my wife does not like them...
#10
A2's
A2's are the best tires I bought before I changed wheel size. They were pretty pricey though. I live in Louisiana, so winter tires are not an issue, but they definately handled curvy roads at 80-90 mph just fine.
#11
when i first started lookin for my first car i ran into a nice vw gti. if it was in my price range... lets just say id be in a vw forrum right now. i know the 1.8 engine is used in the jetta as well but i didnt know it was in the passat. IMO its not a FAST engine but it is zippy. the gti i drove was all stock except for new tires and suspension. it handeled great and was a quick car, could it take my max...... im pretty sure, im a stock autotragic with bald tires and fu*cked up cv joints still pretty quick though. you should have nuthin to worry bout concerning a passat. enjoy your max
#13
that's a great price bro, there are still people today selling their 99's for over 13,000 and u got it from a dealership which is not the cheapest place to buy a car...mileage is good too, yea i would be happy if i were u
oh and i beat my friends 2001 manual jetta (regular i guess) so if a prassat is heavier and its not even a newer model, i think u should rock his jaw
oh and i beat my friends 2001 manual jetta (regular i guess) so if a prassat is heavier and its not even a newer model, i think u should rock his jaw
#14
There are quite a few 1.8T's in the 12's. There is even a Jetta 1.8T Automatic running 12's so depends on the mods.
Don't underestimate the 1.8T it has more potential than the VR6 for the same amount spent on mods.
Here is a list of 105 1.8T's running 14 secs and faster, the fastest is 12.2.
http://www.18turbo.com/quarter.html
Don't underestimate the 1.8T it has more potential than the VR6 for the same amount spent on mods.
Here is a list of 105 1.8T's running 14 secs and faster, the fastest is 12.2.
http://www.18turbo.com/quarter.html
#15
I personally have beaten a highly moded 2002 gti vr6 in my 99se with just my CAI and greddy sp..the 1.8T, is considerably slower at stock, but the turbo is pretty strudy, with an ecu upgrade 1.8t is insane, i can't remember the exact percentage of gain from just an ecu, but it was up there.
#16
is your car stock? my friend and i were driving last night. he has a GTi 1.8T. We street-started and he passed me so easily! he has the 150 hp one too, not the 180 hp one. Both are stock.
Originally posted by jcy98maxse
i've beaten a VR6 passat on my way to work one day. He had from the sound of it intake and rims and exhaust. I beat him easily so you should have no problem...
another thing is that the passat is heavier than the Jetta's and GTI's so if you've beaten them before (none chipped of course), then you should win.
i've beaten a VR6 passat on my way to work one day. He had from the sound of it intake and rims and exhaust. I beat him easily so you should have no problem...
another thing is that the passat is heavier than the Jetta's and GTI's so if you've beaten them before (none chipped of course), then you should win.
#17
Originally posted by Mmmaxx
I personally have beaten a highly moded 2002 gti vr6 in my 99se with just my CAI and greddy sp..the 1.8T, is considerably slower at stock, but the turbo is pretty strudy, with an ecu upgrade 1.8t is insane, i can't remember the exact percentage of gain from just an ecu, but it was up there.
I personally have beaten a highly moded 2002 gti vr6 in my 99se with just my CAI and greddy sp..the 1.8T, is considerably slower at stock, but the turbo is pretty strudy, with an ecu upgrade 1.8t is insane, i can't remember the exact percentage of gain from just an ecu, but it was up there.
#18
Sport A2's
I just bought some A2's. I like them but I only paid 70 bucks a tire, I'm pretty sure if you wanted to spend more you could get a better performance or even all around tire. They break loose at like 50% throttle from a dead stop on wet pavement when its just above freezing and I see other cars(one instance in particular was a newish VW actually)getting traction. I've already had them in the snow sadly, and you know how when you change lanes there's that little snow mound between the lanes? I slide on those at 50 mph.
I bet you read the Consumer reports article that the tire dealer read to me.
When its warm out though I get great hole shots in the wet, like almost full throttle, lol I can smoke suv's out of the toll booth in the rain.
I certainly wouldn't say that you're going to be sliding all over the place or always wishing for better tires in cold weather, but don't expect miraculous performance that you might get if you spent $150 a tire on some top of the line eagles or whatever you would get for that. If you drive like you should in the snow and ice(not that I do ),I'm sure you'll be quite happy with them, plus they look cool.
I bet you read the Consumer reports article that the tire dealer read to me.
When its warm out though I get great hole shots in the wet, like almost full throttle, lol I can smoke suv's out of the toll booth in the rain.
I certainly wouldn't say that you're going to be sliding all over the place or always wishing for better tires in cold weather, but don't expect miraculous performance that you might get if you spent $150 a tire on some top of the line eagles or whatever you would get for that. If you drive like you should in the snow and ice(not that I do ),I'm sure you'll be quite happy with them, plus they look cool.
#19
Originally posted by kev926
is your car stock? my friend and i were driving last night. he has a GTi 1.8T. We street-started and he passed me so easily! he has the 150 hp one too, not the 180 hp one. Both are stock.
is your car stock? my friend and i were driving last night. he has a GTi 1.8T. We street-started and he passed me so easily! he has the 150 hp one too, not the 180 hp one. Both are stock.
curb weight: 2002
V6-auto: 3291lbs; 5spd:3411lbs. 190hp;206lbs/ft
GLS- auto: 3240lbs, 5spd:3350lbs. 170hp;166lbs/ft
GLX- auto: 3413lbs, 5spd:3536lbs. 170hp;166lbs/ft
W8-man: 3953lbs. 270hp;273lbs/ft
98 Max SE-auto: 3072lbs, 5spd:3014lbs. 190hp, 205lb/ft
I'm a 5spd and I raced a 5spd V6, that could be the difference...
#20
i am a 97' auto with VB mod, PR CAI, y-pipe. how do you guys think i will do on sunday against my friend with a stock 95' GTI vr6 5speed??
last time i raced him with my stock 96' GLE he pulled a car or so up to 60
whats ur take on the situation considering my mods
last time i raced him with my stock 96' GLE he pulled a car or so up to 60
whats ur take on the situation considering my mods
#21
Originally posted by DTR Maxima
i am a 97' auto with VB mod, PR CAI, y-pipe. how do you guys think i will do on sunday against my friend with a stock 95' GTI vr6 5speed??
last time i raced him with my stock 96' GLE he pulled a car or so up to 60
whats ur take on the situation considering my mods
i am a 97' auto with VB mod, PR CAI, y-pipe. how do you guys think i will do on sunday against my friend with a stock 95' GTI vr6 5speed??
last time i raced him with my stock 96' GLE he pulled a car or so up to 60
whats ur take on the situation considering my mods
#22
is your car stock? my friend and i were driving last night. he has a GTi 1.8T. We street-started and he passed me so easily! he has the 150 hp one too, not the 180 hp one. Both are stock.
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Really? Are you an automatic because I beat my friends 180hp GTI in my max with no mods, both stock. I beat my friends by about half a car length.
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Really? Are you an automatic because I beat my friends 180hp GTI in my max with no mods, both stock. I beat my friends by about half a car length.
#23
Originally posted by jcy98maxse
No, I beat him with intake and y pipe, and he had intake and exhaust. I dunno exactly what he had except that but I pull on him pretty good. Plus these newer Passats are heavier.
curb weight: 2002
V6-auto: 3291lbs; 5spd:3411lbs. 190hp;206lbs/ft
GLS- auto: 3240lbs, 5spd:3350lbs. 170hp;166lbs/ft
GLX- auto: 3413lbs, 5spd:3536lbs. 170hp;166lbs/ft
W8-man: 3953lbs. 270hp;273lbs/ft
98 Max SE-auto: 3072lbs, 5spd:3014lbs. 190hp, 205lb/ft
I'm a 5spd and I raced a 5spd V6, that could be the difference...
No, I beat him with intake and y pipe, and he had intake and exhaust. I dunno exactly what he had except that but I pull on him pretty good. Plus these newer Passats are heavier.
curb weight: 2002
V6-auto: 3291lbs; 5spd:3411lbs. 190hp;206lbs/ft
GLS- auto: 3240lbs, 5spd:3350lbs. 170hp;166lbs/ft
GLX- auto: 3413lbs, 5spd:3536lbs. 170hp;166lbs/ft
W8-man: 3953lbs. 270hp;273lbs/ft
98 Max SE-auto: 3072lbs, 5spd:3014lbs. 190hp, 205lb/ft
I'm a 5spd and I raced a 5spd V6, that could be the difference...
Here's what I got from the VW website for 2003 models
Manual Transmission
V6: 3,291
4MOTION: N.A.
1.8T: 3,225
Automatic Transmission
V6: 3,411
4MOTION: 3,602
1.8T: 3,322
Damn those cars are boats.. but they ride really smoothly and the interior is much nicer than a Maxima, without any rattles (my dad has a 4Motion Wagon).
#24
Originally posted by spiff56747
Your numbers make no sense. An auto is lighter than a manual?
Here's what I got from the VW website for 2003 models
Manual Transmission
V6: 3,291
4MOTION: N.A.
1.8T: 3,225
Automatic Transmission
V6: 3,411
4MOTION: 3,602
1.8T: 3,322
Damn those cars are boats.. but they ride really smoothly and the interior is much nicer than a Maxima, without any rattles (my dad has a 4Motion Wagon).
Your numbers make no sense. An auto is lighter than a manual?
Here's what I got from the VW website for 2003 models
Manual Transmission
V6: 3,291
4MOTION: N.A.
1.8T: 3,225
Automatic Transmission
V6: 3,411
4MOTION: 3,602
1.8T: 3,322
Damn those cars are boats.. but they ride really smoothly and the interior is much nicer than a Maxima, without any rattles (my dad has a 4Motion Wagon).
Don't be ****ed off at the messenger, just trying to help
Plus the weight also depends on what features or model that the Passat is.
carpoint msn
#25
Originally posted by jcy98maxse
I just went off of what the MSN Carpoint website said for year 2003, I think they put the numbers backwards so thats why my numbers are off; no wonder when I first looked at it, it seems wierd but I also check edmunds.com which had pretty much the same numbers so Carpoint prolly mixed them up: the link is below.
Don't be ****ed off at the messenger, just trying to help
Plus the weight also depends on what features or model that the Passat is.
carpoint msn
I just went off of what the MSN Carpoint website said for year 2003, I think they put the numbers backwards so thats why my numbers are off; no wonder when I first looked at it, it seems wierd but I also check edmunds.com which had pretty much the same numbers so Carpoint prolly mixed them up: the link is below.
Don't be ****ed off at the messenger, just trying to help
Plus the weight also depends on what features or model that the Passat is.
carpoint msn
#27
Stock 4th gen max vs. stock vw passat, stock maxima will win.
Once the cars are both modded, the passat (even with a conservative ecu upgrade) will give the maxima a run for its money unless the max has a SC or NOS shot.
My friend has a 2000 passat 1.8t modded with a ECU upgrade and recently just got an exhaust. My 4th gen is a 99 SE with intake and ypipe and we race all the time. We're about the same throughout all the gears only thing is his is a 5spd and mine is an auto tranny.
If only I had a 5th gear!!!
Once the cars are both modded, the passat (even with a conservative ecu upgrade) will give the maxima a run for its money unless the max has a SC or NOS shot.
My friend has a 2000 passat 1.8t modded with a ECU upgrade and recently just got an exhaust. My 4th gen is a 99 SE with intake and ypipe and we race all the time. We're about the same throughout all the gears only thing is his is a 5spd and mine is an auto tranny.
If only I had a 5th gear!!!
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