What is the formula for a NA 13 sec ?
What is the formula for a NA 13 sec ?
I know that there a few 13 sec NA max out there and
I'm really curious what you guys' list of mods are. I know a lot of it has do with the driver and the conditions of the track but what I like to know is that what mods are getting you there? I don't wanna get flamed but I did search but there isn't a specific list out there available for other people (like me and I bet many others) to shoot for, to achieve hi/mid 13sec 1/4 mile.
I'm really curious what you guys' list of mods are. I know a lot of it has do with the driver and the conditions of the track but what I like to know is that what mods are getting you there? I don't wanna get flamed but I did search but there isn't a specific list out there available for other people (like me and I bet many others) to shoot for, to achieve hi/mid 13sec 1/4 mile.
hmm...
5spd, hybrid intake, mevi, y-pipe, straight pipe, b-pipe, no muffler, ud pulley, cut ac compressor from pulley, reprogrammed ecu, maybe a piggyback computer of some sort like apexi s-afc.
and obvious things like, being as light as possible, good plugs and coils, good fuel filter and pump, proper oils all over, premium gasoline, just overall perfect working order... oh yeah, and a good driver.
if the conditions are right and all the above are met, i dont see why a max couldnt go pretty well into the 13s. id be curious to see the 0-60 times and dyno slips of that max too. the vq is a special engine
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5spd, hybrid intake, mevi, y-pipe, straight pipe, b-pipe, no muffler, ud pulley, cut ac compressor from pulley, reprogrammed ecu, maybe a piggyback computer of some sort like apexi s-afc.
and obvious things like, being as light as possible, good plugs and coils, good fuel filter and pump, proper oils all over, premium gasoline, just overall perfect working order... oh yeah, and a good driver.
if the conditions are right and all the above are met, i dont see why a max couldnt go pretty well into the 13s. id be curious to see the 0-60 times and dyno slips of that max too. the vq is a special engine
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I really don't understand how a apexi s-afc work? does it work like a ecu upgrade? I know it has to do with air/fuel ratios but isn't that what a ecu upgrade does also (and extending redline) I've seen one on a NA Impreza 2.5RS a while ago when my friend (who I convinced to get a max) test drove a pretty modded out one, it was a pretty nice setup.
Re: What is the formula for a NA 13 sec ?
You will need around 180-190whp and a curb weight that is less than 2950lbs. Figure intake (your choice), MEVI, Y pipe, UDP, exhaust cutout or catback, slicks, weight reduction. You also need a track that is very close to sea level, otherwise you are wasting your time.
Originally posted by jcy98maxse
I know that there a few 13 sec NA max out there and
I'm really curious what you guys' list of mods are. I know a lot of it has do with the driver and the conditions of the track but what I like to know is that what mods are getting you there? I don't wanna get flamed but I did search but there isn't a specific list out there available for other people (like me and I bet many others) to shoot for, to achieve hi/mid 13sec 1/4 mile.
I know that there a few 13 sec NA max out there and
I'm really curious what you guys' list of mods are. I know a lot of it has do with the driver and the conditions of the track but what I like to know is that what mods are getting you there? I don't wanna get flamed but I did search but there isn't a specific list out there available for other people (like me and I bet many others) to shoot for, to achieve hi/mid 13sec 1/4 mile.
Originally posted by mzmtg
The only NA 4th gen in the 13s is Nealoc187.
His mods are:
Intake
MEVI
Y-pipe
JWT ecu
There's your formula. Get those mods and learn how to drive.
The only NA 4th gen in the 13s is Nealoc187.
His mods are:
Intake
MEVI
Y-pipe
JWT ecu
There's your formula. Get those mods and learn how to drive.
Originally posted by mzmtg
The only NA 4th gen in the 13s is Nealoc187.
His mods are:
Intake
MEVI
Y-pipe
JWT ecu
There's your formula. Get those mods and learn how to drive.
The only NA 4th gen in the 13s is Nealoc187.
His mods are:
Intake
MEVI
Y-pipe
JWT ecu
There's your formula. Get those mods and learn how to drive.
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
Originally posted by thebigsadler
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
The maxima is already fast.
The fun is modding the car to be faster, no matter how much it is.
Any car can fall apart, just make sure everything gets built well.
No need to slap yourself, because when you're done the other guy behind you will slap himself for trying to race you.
Originally posted by mzmtg
The only NA 4th gen in the 13s is Nealoc187.
His mods are:
Intake
MEVI
Y-pipe
JWT ecu
There's your formula. Get those mods and learn how to drive.
The only NA 4th gen in the 13s is Nealoc187.
His mods are:
Intake
MEVI
Y-pipe
JWT ecu
There's your formula. Get those mods and learn how to drive.
stillen cone intake
Y-pipe
MEVI
slicks
weight reducton
driving skills
Originally posted by thebigsadler
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
Dude what it comes down to is work with what you got.
So please slap yo self home brew.
Originally posted by I30tMikeD
I believe neal had:
stillen cone intake
Y-pipe
MEVI
slicks
weight reducton
driving skills
I believe neal had:
stillen cone intake
Y-pipe
MEVI
slicks
weight reducton
driving skills
Actually it's a JWT popcharger
and he also has a test pipe which IMHO doesn't do anything for an N/A car...
my car is just as quick and fast as neal's and I have more weight...I also have full exhaust and a UDP.
its fast for a reliable car that doesn't cost much. It could definetly beat alot of those "sport" compact cars out there stock so unless your willing to pay over 25grand for a car or more it is pretty fast for the money. it can beat stock:
1)2002 GTI
2)2002 si
3)2002 se-r spec v
4)2002 eclipse
etc. , etc. so don't call the max slow
1)2002 GTI
2)2002 si
3)2002 se-r spec v
4)2002 eclipse
etc. , etc. so don't call the max slow
Originally posted by 96max5sp
its fast for a reliable car that doesn't cost much. It could definetly beat alot of those "sport" compact cars out there stock so unless your willing to pay over 25grand for a car or more it is pretty fast for the money. it can beat stock:
1)2002 GTI
2)2002 si
3)2002 se-r spec v
4)2002 eclipse
etc. , etc. so don't call the max slow
its fast for a reliable car that doesn't cost much. It could definetly beat alot of those "sport" compact cars out there stock so unless your willing to pay over 25grand for a car or more it is pretty fast for the money. it can beat stock:
1)2002 GTI
2)2002 si
3)2002 se-r spec v
4)2002 eclipse
etc. , etc. so don't call the max slow
So, it can beat all those other slow cars...
No ECU for me yet. With that and cams I hope I can get a 13.6, 100mph traps, and into the 13s on street tires too, it should really open the car up with the MEVI on there. I still need to do some other basic mods like exhaust and UDP as well, those will help a tiny bit.
My car is very light, and I'm a pretty skinny guy. I haven't done crazy weight reduction like removing mechanical parts from the car though. The contributing factors are lightweight wheels, CF hood, removed spare, jack, and passenger seat.
My car is very light, and I'm a pretty skinny guy. I haven't done crazy weight reduction like removing mechanical parts from the car though. The contributing factors are lightweight wheels, CF hood, removed spare, jack, and passenger seat.
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Neal, how many accesory belts do 4-gens have? Can you remove one belt w/o losing ALT or PS power. 3-gen guys remove the belt powering the AC compressor to gain a little also.
Neal, how many accesory belts do 4-gens have? Can you remove one belt w/o losing ALT or PS power. 3-gen guys remove the belt powering the AC compressor to gain a little also.
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Neal, how many accesory belts do 4-gens have? Can you remove one belt w/o losing ALT or PS power. 3-gen guys remove the belt powering the AC compressor to gain a little also.
Neal, how many accesory belts do 4-gens have? Can you remove one belt w/o losing ALT or PS power. 3-gen guys remove the belt powering the AC compressor to gain a little also.
want faster car? u need:
1-. Lots of stickers
2-. Super loud muffler
3-. Neon lights all over your car
4-. Any Color oversize bumpers
with these mods you will be very fast. Make sure you buy some Nissan or Nismo seat belt pads. you don't wanna hurt your self.
JK
I don't know the secret I am still all stock doing low 15's.
1-. Lots of stickers
2-. Super loud muffler
3-. Neon lights all over your car
4-. Any Color oversize bumpers
with these mods you will be very fast. Make sure you buy some Nissan or Nismo seat belt pads. you don't wanna hurt your self.
JK
I don't know the secret I am still all stock doing low 15's.
Originally posted by optimus310
want faster car? u need:
1-. Lots of stickers
2-. Super loud muffler
3-. Neon lights all over your car
4-. Any Color oversize bumpers
with these mods you will be very fast. Make sure you buy some Nissan or Nismo seat belt pads. you don't wanna hurt your self.
JK
I don't know the secret I am still all stock doing low 15's.
want faster car? u need:
1-. Lots of stickers
2-. Super loud muffler
3-. Neon lights all over your car
4-. Any Color oversize bumpers
with these mods you will be very fast. Make sure you buy some Nissan or Nismo seat belt pads. you don't wanna hurt your self.
JK
I don't know the secret I am still all stock doing low 15's.
Hey what do I know, I'm rollin on 18's...
Originally posted by mzmtg
Um, no it isn't.
14.6 1/4 mile times are not fast. Quick for a midlevel sedan, yes....fast, no.
Um, no it isn't.
14.6 1/4 mile times are not fast. Quick for a midlevel sedan, yes....fast, no.
Your idea of fast is a $100,000 sports car.
Most sports cars only do a 1/4 mile in the 13's. You know why?
Because after that is when they will really pull they aren't designed for 1/4 miles.
Originally posted by hacim105
So tell me what's fast. Doing 13 second 1/4 miles. Name as many stock cars that can do a 13 second 1/4 mile that costs less than $35,000. Most cars can't.
Your idea of fast is a $100,000 sports car.
Most sports cars only do a 1/4 mile in the 13's. You know why?
Because after that is when they will really pull they aren't designed for 1/4 miles.
So tell me what's fast. Doing 13 second 1/4 miles. Name as many stock cars that can do a 13 second 1/4 mile that costs less than $35,000. Most cars can't.
Your idea of fast is a $100,000 sports car.
Most sports cars only do a 1/4 mile in the 13's. You know why?
Because after that is when they will really pull they aren't designed for 1/4 miles.
Fast has nothing to to with price. If a car can lay don the numbers, that's all that matters.
If someone spends a total of $25,000 on a used Camaro that runs 12.5, that's just as "fast" as the guy who spends $250,000 on a Frerrai 575M that runs 12.5
Originally posted by mzmtg
Fast has nothing to to with price. If a car can lay don the numbers, that's all that matters.
If someone spends a total of $25,000 on a used Camaro that runs 12.5, that's just as "fast" as the guy who spends $250,000 on a Frerrai 575M that runs 12.5
Fast has nothing to to with price. If a car can lay don the numbers, that's all that matters.
If someone spends a total of $25,000 on a used Camaro that runs 12.5, that's just as "fast" as the guy who spends $250,000 on a Frerrai 575M that runs 12.5
That is true but if someone wanted to they could get their maxima to run a 12.5. The only difference is that it would be slightly easier to make an american muscle car really fast because parts don't cost as much and it has a V-8. Does anything else matter.
Originally posted by thebigsadler
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
Stop trying to make your family sedan a show car
Same d*mn idea
OK com'on what do you want? 12sec 1/4 stock? for less than $40,000
The max is awesome for 8,000 i got a sexy, reliable, fast, roomy, comfortable etc., car and for $1,000 i can run 13.xx to low 14's 1/4 mile times (y-pipe,intake, b-pipe, chip, UDP).what more do you want? It's the best bang for the back out there.
The max is awesome for 8,000 i got a sexy, reliable, fast, roomy, comfortable etc., car and for $1,000 i can run 13.xx to low 14's 1/4 mile times (y-pipe,intake, b-pipe, chip, UDP).what more do you want? It's the best bang for the back out there.
Originally posted by 96max5sp
car and for $1,000 i can run 13.xx to low 14's 1/4 mile times (y-pipe,intake, b-pipe, chip, UDP
car and for $1,000 i can run 13.xx to low 14's 1/4 mile times (y-pipe,intake, b-pipe, chip, UDP
a low 14 is a better guess.
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Originally posted by thebigsadler
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
step one: stop trying to make the maxima a fast car.
step two: if you think you can, be prepared to spend well over 5000.00.
step three: spend all that money just to have this car fall apart on you.
step four: slap yourself for trying to make a maxima fast.
Slap yourself for ruining a maxima...
Originally posted by MaxEffect414
I got the answer to all your problems, instead of spending money on all that, just get TURBO 5.0psi should be good.
I got the answer to all your problems, instead of spending money on all that, just get TURBO 5.0psi should be good.
Ok I have driven all sorts of cars, I have run straight line drags and autoX and trust me the Maxima is a decent performer. I drive a low 11 second gsx so I know what fast is. My current max could be turned into an 11 second all motor car if I had 8k to put into it but I don't, however the potential is still there. If I had the money though, I could make the max an 11 second beast and all I would have invested is 10k (2k for the car and 8k in mods).
Originally posted by Liquid_pjear
Ok I have driven all sorts of cars, I have run straight line drags and autoX and trust me the Maxima is a decent performer. I drive a low 11 second gsx so I know what fast is. My current max could be turned into an 11 second all motor car if I had 8k to put into it but I don't, however the potential is still there. If I had the money though, I could make the max an 11 second beast and all I would have invested is 10k (2k for the car and 8k in mods).
Ok I have driven all sorts of cars, I have run straight line drags and autoX and trust me the Maxima is a decent performer. I drive a low 11 second gsx so I know what fast is. My current max could be turned into an 11 second all motor car if I had 8k to put into it but I don't, however the potential is still there. If I had the money though, I could make the max an 11 second beast and all I would have invested is 10k (2k for the car and 8k in mods).
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I assume there is a big difference between a high 11 and low 11 eclipse. You gained a good .5 in one day?
Originally posted by Liquid_pjear
I drive a low 11 second gsx so I know what fast is.
I drive a low 11 second gsx so I know what fast is.
Originally posted by Liquid_pjear
I haven't even been able to dyno my high 11 second eclipse since I did some fuel work.
I haven't even been able to dyno my high 11 second eclipse since I did some fuel work.
Originally posted by Liquid_pjear
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