do us a favor and post the dealership name in the dealership forum down below and whether you'd recommend it or not

 

Ok, this morning I told him to keep the old parts for me and he readily agreed.

If any1 would like to have the old parts (MAF and Fuel Pump), tell me your mailing address. Of course, I'd not know of their working condition. I will be happy to do any "check resistance, check voltage, open this, open that on these parts" kind of diagnostics. Also, I'd think that the fuel pump can be repaired, given that it is mostly a mechanical device.

The only 2 experiences posted on the dealerships forum for this dealer are good (they both specifically name this service manager) and my past experience hasn't been bad either - like 2 months back he tested the starting problem for 1.5 hours and finally told me that the problem was residual pressure from fuel pump and didn't charge me a dime for the time.

So ...... I will wait for the old parts, car and the bill before returning the verdict.

I'd think it possible that fuel pump turned kaput slowly over time, especially given that he had diagnosed problem with pressure 2 months back. He may have blown MAF while testing out various sensors but no way I can prove that, so .....

BUT THANKS ALL AGAIN.

Now looking for junk yards in NJ - I believe there are 2-3 near IKEA, exit 13A off NJTP. For future use

 

A "Bottle of gas connected directly into the engine".

LOLLOLOLOLOL - He must have to squeeze that bottle pretty hard... hehe

What a bunch of thieving scumbag liars.

-RMB

 

Excellent idea. This way you can check to see if new parts were actually installed on vehicle.

 

For goodness sakes man, agree to nothing at all!!! You're letting them take you. I would've gotten a mechanic buddy and taken him ad have the dealer explain all this to a certified mechanic. Also, I'd stick around to see them make the car turn on since they claim they're made it work already with an alternate fuel system.

One more thing, tell him you've posted online (but not specifically) that the dealer has the capacity of connecting a car to a secondary fuel source a.k.a. "life-support" and that a bunch of automotive engineers want to conduct a study.

Another thing you can do is call the local media. They'd love to take some camera guys and a reporter over there and pretty much dig deep into the pile of poo.

 

Hey, give the guy a break. He's new to the Maxima community & doesn't sound like the DIY kind. So his car took a crap and is now trapped in some dealership, partially disassembled. Under the same circumstances, if I needed my wheels back ASAP, I would also take it in the shorts and pay to have the correct work done. All the time, money & effort spent on towing the car to a reputable dealer or mechanic would waste any benefit gained.

He's better off than 90% of the victims out there - how many normal people would refer to an online enthusiast's group for advice before having a bunch of work done? Anyway, I hope he gets it running and the hell out of that dealership before they invent any additional problems. There is no replacement for a competent, local mechanic.

Cheers to the .ORG, it's existence is one of the reasons I purchased a Maxima.

Ciao,
TOM

 

 

That's the thing though... after all we've pointewd out as pobably shady, i think getting the right things on the car done for the best price is better than a $1000+ ripoff.

He should have enough info to demand better from the dealer. Sorry if I came off as offensive.. i was saying things in more of a "Take a Stand!" tone.

 

...and it makes me SO MAD!!!!


I hate dealers -- I'm gonna post my own horror stories later...
After reading all dem posts, my $0.02 (which many have already
said):

-- MAFS prolly not bad. Get your old one back. It's simply 4 bolts
and one wire to connect --> see what happens if you reconnect it. If
it doesn't work, check to see if they F'ed up the little wire in the
sensor itself.

-- Broken MAFS will still let car start -- only RPMS affected.

-- Dirty throttle body? with only 44K? possible, but unlikely.

-- Diesel? PUH-LEASE!!!! I HATE THESE STUPID FU@KING DEALERS!!!

-- ECTS -- again, only 44K miles --> should still be good!!!

-- I HATE DEALERS (ofcourse, we already knew that )

later y'all -- sorry for whoring up the post.

FLO_BOY

 

 

It sounds like you are bound and determined to spend money. The best advice I saw was call a tow truck. Make sure to call at least three and get a good rate. They can pick it up any time from say 9am-3pm they should give you a good rate. Towing a car from a dealership to another auto shop is not like dragging a car out of a ditch during a snowstorm ! I really belive the slow economy is pushing some repair shops to "go fishing".

 

Hello all:

Confirming that I have been suckered

Brought the car back today after dealer replaced Fuel Pump and MAF and cleaned the fuel tank. Its still hard to start. He had also replaced Spark Plugs, so I suspect that the no-start situation was caused by Spark Plugs.

The $hitheads wanted to replace all 6 Ignition coil packs (@ $800) claiming that that would fix the hard start problem now that they had the car running

But hell no, I would rather DIY with help from MAXIMA.ORG, Haynes & Newark junkyard than an effing dealership. Man, I leanrt my lesson the hard way. I hope no one else has to pay for needless work.

I will post the hard start symptoms in another thread.

 

Just a quick question regarding a point made earlier in this thread. ssubhash said the dealer got his car running by hooking up an external bottle of fuel or something to it, and people questioned that ability. Isn't that how a lot of professional injector cleaning services are performed? A pressurized can of injector cleaner stuff is hooked to the fuel system (possibly fuel rails), fuel pump fuse is pulled, and the car is idled on that can for about 10 minutes or so, until it is empty. This very effectively cleans the fuel injectors, much better than a bottle of stuff put in the tank. Why wouldn't this be possible for the dealer to have done on a Maxima? Now that I've been reminded of this procedure, I'm going to look in to getting it done locally. I know when I was in NC several years ago, you could buy a kit and do it at home yourself for a lot cheaper than a dealership. Whether or not there's a kit available to fit the Maxima I don't know. I'll check in to it this week.
BTW, I think he got hosed at that dealer. His MAF may have been blown, and couldn't it have been from a backfire through the intake (is that from timing or running too lean? I can't remember). That little wire in the MAF looks pretty fragile, and a backfire may have snapped it (I'm just playing with ideas). But a bad MAF should still let the car start, just not run good.
Didn't his car only have like 44,000 on it? I doubt plugs would've been the problem. Too low of mileage for things to start going wrong unless it's a fluke. But a bad fuel pump (it was having problems 2 months prior) could have been the culprit.
I'd definitely check all the parts returned, and I'd never go back to that dealership. Too much sounds flaky. If they're highly trained Nissan service techs, they should've been able to pinpoint a problem in a heartbeat, have it fixed and out the door pretty quick. It's not like they tore the engine down, machined the block, etc... They replaced a few bolt-on parts...

Sorry so long. Just some thoughts.

Dave

 

Oh and yes, I have the old fuel pump, MAF and a bottle full of sample of liquid from the fuel tank.

ANYONE INTERESTED IN HAVING ANY OF THESE FOR PLAYING/REPLACING/JUST FOR KICKS, JUST EMAIL ME UR ADDRESS.

PS: Repeat 1000 times after me "I will not go to a dealership again for fixing my car".

 

Ugh. What a nightmare. It was experiences similar to this that drove me to doing as much of my own service as possible. Now, if it's something I can't manage, I grit my teeth anytime I have to let the "professionals" (lol) have at it.

Never, will I ever go to a Nissan dealer for service again. Sadly, I've just seen too much incompetence.

If you find a shop/technician who knows his stuff & is reasonably priced, man, hang on for dear life - because it seems that's the exception to the rule these days.

 

Hey! Have you checked out www.odyclub.com? They have been quite helpful to me