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Old 01-21-2003, 10:44 AM
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!!!New ECU News For All Of You 97-99 4th Gen!!!

Just an update and keeping you guys informed:
I just got off the phone with JWT, and they said they are in the process of creating the ECU's for the 97-99 Fed spec and Cali specs. The only bad news is the realse date. Its said to be realsed between late this year and early next year. The price now set for it is $595. Those with MEVI will have something to look foward too.
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Re: !!!New ECU News For All Of You 97-99 4th Gen!!!

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Just an update and keeping you guys informed:
I just got off the phone with JWT, and they said they are in the process of creating the ECU's for the 97-99 Fed spec and Cali specs. The only bad news is the realse date. Its said to be realsed between late this year and early next year. The price now set for it is $595. Those with MEVI will have something to look foward too.
Great News. DO you know what type of gains we will get?
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Re: Re: !!!New ECU News For All Of You 97-99 4th Gen!!!

He said anywhere from 12-15hp @ the wheels and raised Rev limiter
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Great News. DO you know what type of gains we will get?
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Sorry for the multiple posting. Computer was giving some problems
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That's what they said back in 1999.
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How does raising the rev limiter help us? Plus our internals are not made to operate over 6550 rpm, wouldn't this just destroy our engines?
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We'll see what happens, but for now all we can do is wait and hope they keep their word this time.
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That's what they said back in 1999.
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JWT aint gonna say "We wont be coming out with 97+ ECUs anytime soon".

"We are working on the ECU and it will be coming out next year" is what they've been saying for 3,4 years now.
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and on second thought, I REALLY DONT think we will find any ECUs anytime soon. With the new Z, G35, new Altima/Maxima and etc, I dont think JWT is gonna make any real efforts at developoing a 97+ ECU.

Its a different story if they've been working on it for some time now and its nearing completion, but I dont think they DID ANY DEVELOPMENTS AT ALL so far for the 97+ ECU.
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I heard that kind of talk a couple of times now as well. Plus, I did e-mailed a guy from there 3 month ago, and he responded that they will not work on '97's ECU, but rather concentrate on the later models.
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i'll believe it when i see it.
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$595 FOR ONLY 10-15HP GAINS.....
YOU GOTTA BE OUT YOUR MIND
ITS A THIN LINE BETWEEN SANITY AND INSANITY
ILOVE THE CAR AND IT HAS POTENTIAL BUT SPENDING DOE LIKE THAT FOR MINOR GAINS...DRAW THE LINE PEOPLE!
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You gotta consider the chance that the reworked ECU may have benefits on other mods already done but not running at optimum conditions for best performance...that may have been the original reason they went with the changed computers...like comparing teh diff the nitrous makes with and without the remapped ECU...seems simple enough...even changing the rpm redline is beneficial.
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What kind of changes would the ecu do for OBDII???
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Originally posted by APER5
$595 FOR ONLY 10-15HP GAINS.....
YOU GOTTA BE OUT YOUR MIND
ITS A THIN LINE BETWEEN SANITY AND INSANITY
ILOVE THE CAR AND IT HAS POTENTIAL BUT SPENDING DOE LIKE THAT FOR MINOR GAINS...DRAW THE LINE PEOPLE!
You do realize that the Caps Lock button is toggled, meaning it CAN BE turned OFF.

With a VIM system, be it MEVI or the 5th gen VI, increased redline means a lot more than just 10-15hp, it means longer powerband, which means even more than just peak numbers. And people were buying the SC, with about 70hp for about 3k-4k when it came out, that figures to about $42-$57 per horsepower, for 600 bucks u get 10-15hp thats $40-$60 per horsepower. I dont see what the complaint is.
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You gotta consider the chance that the reworked ECU may have benefits on other mods already done but not running at optimum conditions for best performance...that may have been the original reason they went with the changed computers...like comparing teh diff the nitrous makes with and without the remapped ECU...seems simple enough...even changing the rpm redline is beneficial.
But it may also somehow lowere the performance of existing mods, don't see how though. I hope it doesn't cause I might be needing one in the coming years for a tranny swap...
 
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Originally posted by SonicDust187
How does raising the rev limiter help us? Plus our internals are not made to operate over 6550 rpm, wouldn't this just destroy our engines?
most internals in most engines are strong enough to over rev a little bit, the weakness is in the head(valves, springs,retainers etc)
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Originally posted by APER5
$595 FOR ONLY 10-15HP GAINS.....
YOU GOTTA BE OUT YOUR MIND
ITS A THIN LINE BETWEEN SANITY AND INSANITY
ILOVE THE CAR AND IT HAS POTENTIAL BUT SPENDING DOE LIKE THAT FOR MINOR GAINS...DRAW THE LINE PEOPLE!
first.. stop shouting...




second. . people pay $520 for a greddy catback that gives them 5 hp tops..



jim wolf will say that till 2009

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please prove us wrong jwt
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My car gains +42hp at the wheel from 5000-6800RPM with the MEVI and SuperCharger (3.25" Pulley).

In the dyno graph, with boost, the hp gain with the MEVI is a straight line headed up, with no signs of falling off.

With the JWT redline lifted to 7500, that gain should be about 65-75hp over the stock Manifold, and I'd probalby gain 1PSI of boost on top of that, which may add even more.

So, yes, definately, fo people with MEVI's and Boost, it would be worth $1000.....$595 is even better.

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I have a question?

If one was to put a 95 fed spec ECU in a 97-99 cali spec car will the engine even start? From what I read everyone says that a 95-97 ecu won't work in a 98-99 car. If the car runs but has a MIL then it shouldn't be hard to trouble shoot what is causing the MIL. To date JWT hasn't made an ECU upgrade from a 98+ core. What they do is get a 95-97 ECU and tell the owner which wires to modify and to get a 95 o2 sensor. Here is the link containing the info http://new.sr20deforum.com/showthrea...+ecu+AND+1998. But another way is to buy a greddy Emanage with the ignition timing harness and DIY.
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Re: I have a question?

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But another way is to buy a greddy Emanage with the ignition timing harness and DIY.
They made a harness for the maxima?
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If they made ECU for the 97+, and if I already had MEVI, I would get the ECU. Granted its not a SC or a turbo, MEVI + ECU(extended redline) is a nice way to really bolt out a N/A Max. You get good power gains all the time, you dont have to refill bottles like NOS, and it keeps pulling and pulling and pulling.

If I had 5spd Max and if I didnt have NOS, and if they had ECU for us, I think I would go ECU + MEVI rather than NOS. Dont take me wrong, NOS is awesome. I love it. But MEVI + ECU + 2k Muffler is also a nice way to mod a max. Very classy and european like I would say.
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Cant a 95-96 ecu work in a 97 if its the same model, transmission etc?
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ecu

how about the jet ecu upgrade? It is available for the 98-99 models, gives an extra 15 horse and costs only 400$.
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Re: ecu

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how about the jet ecu upgrade? It is available for the 98-99 models, gives an extra 15 horse and costs only 400$.
haha



go ahead and buy a jet ecu ugrade.. you will be wasting $400
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Re: Re: ecu

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haha



go ahead and buy a jet ecu ugrade.. you will be wasting $400
why???? Not that i'm doubting you
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Re: Re: Re: ecu

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why???? Not that i'm doubting you
people have bought them and have had no noticable gains.. JEt is only good for american cars..



and john.. you doubt and question everything i tell you..


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Do you guys think we can convince JWT that there would be a big enough market if, say, 20+ of us pre-ordered or something? Sort of like a group deal...
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Originally posted by JeffesonM
Do you guys think we can convince JWT that there would be a big enough market if, say, 20+ of us pre-ordered or something? Sort of like a group deal...
I think our list would have to be bigger than that. But we could start one lol

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Sorry to sound negative but they told me the same thing in March 2002. Except there was no mention of VI. I would love to try one out!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: ecu

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people have bought them and have had no noticable gains.. JEt is only good for american cars..



and john.. you doubt and question everything i tell you..


Actually Nealco187 had one on his car and said that he did infact notice some good gains... but he does have a 95-96.
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I recently graduated and am still looking for a job, but I for sure plan to get a ECU if it works for a 97, does not send ANY CEL codes, and raises the rev limiter. I should have money in a month or so. Put me down if it will be at least a month.
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Start a new thread and then ask for people to get on the list. I bet the list will be a lot longer than the one shown right now. The thread has too much negative feedback and people are probably just skimming through the post rather than reading the entire three pages. But I would be down. I didn't get the VI just because of the lack of RPM range without an upgraded chip to not show a CEL.
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New ECU(97-99)THREAD FOR JWT

I think we should really start a new thread for JWT to convince them to make an ECU for the 97-99 4th gens. It would really be benificial for us, after all what could we lose? We only can gain the nice additional Hp with the MEVI, rasied rev limter that will give us close to 40+ hp peak, Also boosted max would be one to fear on the road(M5's watch out! ). Lets get this thread going guys.

Originally posted by kwamdoo74
[B]Start a new thread and then ask for people to get on the list. I bet the list will be a lot longer than the one shown right now. The thread has too much negative feedback and people are probably just skimming through the post rather than reading the entire three pages. But I would be down. I didn't get the VI just because of the lack of RPM range without an upgraded chip to not show a CEL/B]
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Re: New ECU(97-99)THREAD FOR JWT

Then add your name to the list below Maybe we could make a new thread and get a Mod to make it a sticky??

Only people with money in their pockets willing to put it on the table though please.



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I think our list would have to be bigger than that. But we could start one lol

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Actually, I am going to call JWT tomorrow to find out how many people we have to have ready to go with Credit Cards in hand to get them off their asses!!!
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im gonna be mr Negative here.....

JWT is not gonna develop an ECU for 97+ Maximas. They have no plans for it. There is no market for it espically with the new G35/350Z and Max/Altima. even if you got 20 people to prepay i doubt they would do it. 20 people is small beans compared to other stuff they could do. Id be willing to bet money that they will not develop for the 97+. Ive met them personally before and someone there actually told me this, dont worry bout who it is.
Believe me if you want to, and its fine if you dont believe me...cause i dont care, its juss you thats gonna be dissapointed in the end.
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
im gonna be mr Negative here.....

JWT is not gonna develop an ECU for 97+ Maximas. They have no plans for it. There is no market for it espically with the new G35/350Z and Max/Altima. even if you got 20 people to prepay i doubt they would do it. 20 people is small beans compared to other stuff they could do. Id be willing to bet money that they will not develop for the 97+. Ive met them personally before and someone there actually told me this, dont worry bout who it is.
Believe me if you want to, and its fine if you dont believe me...cause i dont care, its juss you thats gonna be dissapointed in the end.
I highly disagree with your statement, how can you say there is no market for 97-99 maxima's, the new g35/350z and new max's and altima's on the road no where nearly compare to how many 97-99 maxima's there are on the road. Making an ECU for us would only be a good business decision. Maybe you do know they aren't going to make one for the 97-99 Max's because you spoke with "someone" there, but they'd be idiots to deny the market of one, maybe they need someone with a little more marketing savvy and not so much "car" savvy to know that
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