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01-23-2003, 05:09 PM

Soul Fly

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Need Some Answers to an Unsolved Mystery...

ok, this isn't street racing. more like parking lot racing. (please dont delete/close) anyway...sohail (esfooni23) and i were messin around in a parking lot tonite, we dragged from a dead stop and he wooped the livin **** outa me. he's got a '97 SE 5spd w/ NO MODS! i've got a '90 GXE a/t w/ k&n intake, 3A racing exhaust. HEEEEE says that we have the exact same engine w/ the exact same HP = 190, 160 to the wheels. Is this true? I know mine is a VG, and his is a VE - do they have any performance differences? or is it the fact that his is 5 spd and he can get the most out of every gear? help..

01-23-2003, 05:32 PM

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1997 Nissan Maxima 4 Dr SE Sedan

Drive Type: FWD
Transmission: 5-Speed

Acceleration (0-60): 6.9 sec.
Braking Distance (60-0): 134 ft.
Roadholding Index: 0.79
Base No. of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 190 hp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 205 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm

1990 Nissan Maxima 4 Dr SE Sedan

Drive Type: FWD
Transmission: 5-Speed

Base No. of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 2.96 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 160 hp @ 5200 rpm
Torque: 181 ft-lbs. @ 2800 rpm

01-23-2003, 05:33 PM

CalsonicSE

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This is not a mystery.

his VQ - 190hp/205tq at the crank; 5speed manual
your VG - 160hp/181tq at the crank (a bit more with your intake and exhaust); 4speed auto

Enough said.

01-23-2003, 06:01 PM

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fair enough

01-23-2003, 09:21 PM

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Hes got a lot more tourque witch helps off the line and his engine is 108 lbs lighter...

I know that for a fact and you being auto isnt good either

-Matt

01-24-2003, 06:18 PM

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it's not that a/t isnt' good...its that he's just got more power.

BUT, say it was the exact same 2 cars...
2 '97 SE....one 5spd and one A/T. Unless it's a VERY skilled driver the a/t will be faster b/c there's no shift lag. auto trannys are better than people think.

01-24-2003, 07:39 PM

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yea if the 5spd farts off the line..but through second and 3rd the 5spd owns...a full second difference in the 1/4 is alot

-Matt

01-24-2003, 07:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Soul Fly
it's not that a/t isnt' good...its that he's just got more power.

BUT, say it was the exact same 2 cars...
2 '97 SE....one 5spd and one A/T. Unless it's a VERY skilled driver the a/t will be faster b/c there's no shift lag. auto trannys are better than people think.

that's assuming both cars have the same amount of HP going to the wheels. while both engines would be rated the same, the A/T suffers from more of a drive train loss, there for resulting in more of a loss of power to the wheels. its all about efficiency.

also, all of the 5 auto 4th gen's i've driven have tranny's that lag.