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Old Feb 3, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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I installed the B&G's last weekend, and noticed the front spring's diameters don't fit into the rubber spacer like the stock springs/Sprints did.

Anyone else notice this? The diameter of the spring is definately about 1/4" smaller. It still seems to fit in there, but not as well as other springs.

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what do you mean by the rubber spacer? The rubber part inside the top strut mount?

Mine fits OK, it might be a little loose, but I don't really think its a problem.

When you installed your B+Gs, did you put the OUT lettering on the top of the strut mount facing the side of the car? If so, does the bottom of your spring seem a little loose, like not completely in contact with the bottom of the strut? Thats the problem I have right now.
Old Feb 3, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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what do you mean by the rubber spacer? The rubber part inside the top strut mount?

Mine fits OK, it might be a little loose, but I don't really think its a problem.

When you installed your B+Gs, did you put the OUT lettering on the top of the strut mount facing the side of the car? If so, does the bottom of your spring seem a little loose, like not completely in contact with the bottom of the strut? Thats the problem I have right now.
Yes, I paid strict attention to the "OUT" and "F" labeling.

What I mean is that on the top of the spring (bottom of the mount) there is a ribber spacer with a groove in it for the spring to fit into. The spring does not fit into it perfectly, because the diameter of the spring is a little bit too small.
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In general, how do lowered maximas ride?!? Im interested in lowering it, but my last car rode like shiiiit. How bout you guys?!??



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Yes, I paid strict attention to the "OUT" and "F" labeling.

What I mean is that on the top of the spring (bottom of the mount) there is a ribber spacer with a groove in it for the spring to fit into. The spring does not fit into it perfectly, because the diameter of the spring is a little bit too small.
I didn't notice any major fitment issues, might not have been perfect, but nothing that gave me any concern. Now on the rear springs, I had to put them what seems like upside down due to a fitment issue. They fit perfectly upside down (which I think is actually right side up lol), and have rode perfect since the install.
Old Feb 3, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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I didn't notice any major fitment issues, might not have been perfect, but nothing that gave me any concern. Now on the rear springs, I had to put them what seems like upside down due to a fitment issue. They fit perfectly upside down (which I think is actually right side up lol), and have rode perfect since the install.
Strange - my rears fit perfectly, writing up, but the fronts are "skinnier" than the Sprints.
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Strange - my rears fit perfectly, writing up, but the fronts are "skinnier" than the Sprints.
I think B&G printed the writing upside down on some of their rear springs lol There was no way for the spring to fit with the writing up on my shock. very strange... oh well, if it rides well, corners like a bat outa hell and looks good, I can't complain can I?? lol
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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The B&G setup is great for looks and handeling but it's pretty noisy. I had mine installed last week and I have rattles and clunk noises everywhere. I've had it checked it out twice and everything seems to be cool. I guess i need to buy some spacers or use more wire wrap on the coils. By the way, I LOVE the way the car looks with these springs.
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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The B&G setup is great for looks and handeling but it's pretty noisy. I had mine installed last week and I have rattles and clunk noises everywhere. I've had it checked it out twice and everything seems to be cool. I guess i need to buy some spacers or use more wire wrap on the coils. By the way, I LOVE the way the car looks with these springs.
If that pic is of the B&G Springs, then my car with the B&G's is full inch lower than yours.....which is what we're trying to figure out......WTF?

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I have a very funny feeling somebody has the wrong spring in their car. B&G springs are thicker (diameter of the coil) then any other spring I've seen for the Maxima.

They fit very tight in the strut on in the upper spring perch. They make no noise at all. My B&G install was silent. Lime who is running B&G's is also silent.

Writing goes upwards on both front and rear coils, it even says so in the installation instructions that came with the springs.

Something in this thread isn't quite right......
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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several months later still no noises?

Someone didn't do SOMETHING right somewhere!
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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Mine don't make any noise either - but dyam my car is low!

I'll take pics tonight....maybe I'm just imagining ****, or maybethey sent me the wrong Springs.
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My car sitting on B&G springs.




My sig pic is H&R springs.
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
My car sitting on B&G springs.




My sig pic is H&R springs.
Anyone have a side shot where the top of the wheel is in the light? I can't tell how low your cars are if I can't see the wheels.
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Anyone have a side shot where the top of the wheel is in the light? I can't tell how low your cars are if I can't see the wheels.
Front
Rear
I too have noise up front, but everything was installed correctly. I also know of 2 or so members who have their writing on the rears installed upside down. Personally, mine fit right side up, so that's how they went in.
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Old Feb 4, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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I too have noise up front, but everything was installed correctly. I also know of 2 or so members who have their writing on the rears installed upside down. Personally, mine fit right side up, so that's how they went in.
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Wow...my fender almost covers my wheels in the front....I am WAY lower than that.

They must have sent me the wrong springs....
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Remember, you have 18's on your car, those are 16's in the pic... just saying I'd check on the part# thing before jumping too conclusion...

Originally posted by iansw


Wow...my fender almost covers my wheels in the front....I am WAY lower than that.

They must have sent me the wrong springs....
Old Feb 4, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Remember, you have 18's on your car, those are 16's in the pic... just saying I'd check on the part# thing before jumping too conclusion...

Well, yeah, but the diameter of the rim+tire is the same....

Anyway, I'll check on the PN's tonight if I can find them on/in the box, and I'll jack up the front with my OEM jack and see what I can see, as well as take pics.

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Remember, you have 18's on your car, those are 16's in the pic... just saying I'd check on the part# thing before jumping too conclusion...

I have 18s too, but I don't have any pictures of them with springs on the car. They look pretty close to the gap with my 16s though.

Since I'm a 5spd my front is relatively high, and the back looks low. From what Tom has said his car is almost perfectly even. Your car should probably look the same Ian.
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My mechanic told me that everything was sitting right. I've tried to figure out the noise but haven't had any luck yet. I've also checked with B&G and they told me that I have the proper springs. Any ideas of what might be making all the clunking noises? Could it be my FSTB or something else that might have come loose during the install. Any help would be appreciated.
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Well, yeah, but the diameter of the rim+tire is the same....

Anyway, I'll check on the PN's tonight if I can find them on/in the box, and I'll jack up the front with my OEM jack and see what I can see, as well as take pics.

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What color are the springs they sent you?



oh, and I used the oem wrap and I don't have any noise from my springs.
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Wow...my fender almost covers my wheels in the front....I am WAY lower than that.

They must have sent me the wrong springs....
You definately have the wrong springs. The more I read this thread the more I'm thinking B&G has QC issues. Some go upside down in the rear, others don't. Incorrect springs in the box, then replacements that aren't write either? WTF

I'm going to take them off my recommended spring list.
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Anyone willing to trade me a set of Sprints AND a Set of B&G's for some H&R's?

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Originally posted by iansw
Anyone willing to trade me a set of Sprints AND a Set of B&G's for some H&R's?

IanS


Have you considered Progress or Apex springs? same drop as the BG's
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Well, I checked the box again today - hadn't noticed before it says "1995-1999 Maxima" on the side, which is checked off with a marker.....

Guess now I have to jack her up and look at the Part Numbers on the springs as well.
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Here is a pic of how low my car is with the B&G's - pretty much identical, actually a tiny bit lower, thean the Sprints:

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Pic of the front of my car on B&Gs one week after install.
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Pic of the front of my car on B&Gs one week after install.
Uh............No pic
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My bad dude, my sig didn't show up. Check this reply or look at my sig in the middle of page 2.
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Originally posted by iansw
Here is a pic of how low my car is with the B&G's - pretty much identical, actually a tiny bit lower, thean the Sprints:

Thats freakishly low.

My B+G's are silent in the back, but the fronts definetely make crunking noises over large bumps. I have the OEM sleeves installed on the bottom of the springs in the front, I cut the bump stops, and I also used the radio shack wire wrap on the whole spring. If I can't get rid of this noise I'm gonna look into some different srpings.
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Well, noone has any theories, eh? (besides them being the wrong springs)
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iansw, your car is slammed...even for an auto with some extra weight in the engine bay

i know i have MT, but mine and others are no where near that low. the B+G springs are matching bright red to the AGX struts. they are also very very thick. much thicker than any other spring i have seen. sorry if this is known info.

don't you have a large stereo in your car? and also the added weight of AT and SC could possibly be enough to lower your car that much.
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iansw, your car is slammed...even for an auto with some extra weight in the engine bay

i know i have MT, but mine and others are no where near that low. the B+G springs are matching bright red to the AGX struts. they are also very very thick. much thicker than any other spring i have seen. sorry if this is known info.

don't you have a large stereo in your car? and also the added weight of AT and SC could possibly be enough to lower your car that much.
I do have a stereo, but it's just 1 10" and an amp rack with 2 amps - not by any means a huge system - I do have a 12" that's removable, but in that pic, it's removed.

Even with Sprints, I'm way lower than anyone else with Sprints....I'm also losing axles at the rate of 1 per month....

Which is why i switched to B&G's in the first place.
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I don't have springs, I have Ground Control Coilovers but I guarantee the squeaking, clunking noise that you all are talking about is the same noise mine was making. My friend that put mine on has done many cars (lots of hondas, acuras, etc.) and he said that when you put coils/springs on a lot of hondas they suggest that you zip-tie the perch to the top of the spring (I know it doesnt sound like it would work). He ziptied the top of my coil to the perch and NO MORE squeaking!!! So I guess thats what was making the squeaking noise.

Also, I noticed with my coilovers all the way down (4 inch drop), it looked lower in the rear, which I have a system so I thought it was the extra weight in the trunk. My friend pointed out to me that on most cars the fender in the front has a higher cutout than the fender in the rear. After he told me that I got him to raise the back up an inch and it looks perfect now.

Just my 2 cents, sorry if thats not what ya'll were talkin about!
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Anyone want to stay on topic here? anyone have any ideas as to why my car is so freaking ghetto low?
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Why does Ian's car sit so low with B&G springs?

Discuss.




Originally posted by iansw
Anyone want to stay on topic here? anyone have any ideas as to why my car is so freaking ghetto low?



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