Most EVEN LOOKING manual tranny drop?
02-07-2003, 06:37 AM
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Most EVEN LOOKING manual tranny drop?
I've done my searching but need some fresh opinions. What springs will give me the most even looking drop on a 98 5spd GXE? I know the 5spd tranny is lighter, and makes the rear look like its sagging...and I dont want that. Thanks
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02-07-2003, 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by kink420
I'm getting B+G's (considered progress).
I'm getting B+G's (considered progress).
02-07-2003, 10:13 AM
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Re: Most EVEN LOOKING manual tranny drop?
One option that would let you go with any spring type you want is to use Koni rear struts. They have an adjustable lower spring perch that can be raised or lowered to allow you to raise the back of the car ~3/8"-1/2" (forget what the actual raise is). Great for heavy stereos in the back. I think the rear Konis are ~$75 each.
Originally posted by shaz
I've done my searching but need some fresh opinions. What springs will give me the most even looking drop on a 98 5spd GXE? I know the 5spd tranny is lighter, and makes the rear look like its sagging...and I dont want that. Thanks
shaz
I've done my searching but need some fresh opinions. What springs will give me the most even looking drop on a 98 5spd GXE? I know the 5spd tranny is lighter, and makes the rear look like its sagging...and I dont want that. Thanks
shaz
02-07-2003, 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
Hmmm...take a look at the first page of my homepage and tell if H&R equipped 5 speed SE looks like it's got a low butt.
Dave
Hmmm...take a look at the first page of my homepage and tell if H&R equipped 5 speed SE looks like it's got a low butt.
Dave
It looks better than mine. Have you done the "finger" test in awhile?
Check njmaxseltd's poll, and read what I wrote, and tell me if that's no gap difference!
Hm.. maybe I should go to Konis
02-07-2003, 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin
my sig is with H&R's on an auto. Front sits slightly lower. With a 5-sp you'd probably get about as even a drop as you can get.
K
my sig is with H&R's on an auto. Front sits slightly lower. With a 5-sp you'd probably get about as even a drop as you can get.
K
I dont give a fck if I get flamed but HRs are a little drop and good ride, get another spring if you want a real drop and better look.
02-07-2003, 03:13 PM
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it seems there is always SOMEONE with an issue of the uneven drop, no matter what car.
I'm not sure of the reasons on this; it may be bad mounts or an excessively heavy load.
H&R's usually provide an even drop.
I'm not sure of the reasons on this; it may be bad mounts or an excessively heavy load.
H&R's usually provide an even drop.
02-07-2003, 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by JAY25
No they dont not a 5 speed, maybe on an auto.
No they dont not a 5 speed, maybe on an auto.
and I've had the springs on the car for about 2 years.
02-07-2003, 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by TurDz
I dunno about you...but at worst, the front will be about 1cm higher or something....
and I've had the springs on the car for about 2 years.
I dunno about you...but at worst, the front will be about 1cm higher or something....
and I've had the springs on the car for about 2 years.
more then that, I should know I install have installed them on many maximas, even settled ones people have came back to cut them.
02-07-2003, 08:47 PM
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this is probably the best way to get rid of a$$ sag....
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ghlight=uneven
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ghlight=uneven
02-07-2003, 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by JAY25
No you wont, Rbeyer has HRs and he had to do something to his rear springs to make the car sit even.
I dont give a fck if I get flamed but HRs are a little drop and good ride, get another spring if you want a real drop and better look.
No you wont, Rbeyer has HRs and he had to do something to his rear springs to make the car sit even.
I dont give a fck if I get flamed but HRs are a little drop and good ride, get another spring if you want a real drop and better look.
Slammed cars ride like complete crap. What's fun about riding on the bumpstops? Ferraris, Vettes, and Vipers have more wheel gap than I do.
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02-07-2003, 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin
this is probably the best way to get rid of a$$ sag....
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ghlight=uneven
this is probably the best way to get rid of a$$ sag....
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ghlight=uneven
Do they have spacer bushings that are the size/length of a spring coil? I think it would last longer, since the force on those bushings would be more distributed than at 4 points.
02-07-2003, 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by spiff56747
B+G's are actually the worst springs to get if you're worried about it being even in front and back. (Check my homepage)
B+G's are actually the worst springs to get if you're worried about it being even in front and back. (Check my homepage)
Search for old threads on "springs" with .org member "dashingmax"
He went with B&G's on his 5-speed & ended up having to use spring spacers in the rear to make the gap look better. He had no heavy audio in the trunk.
(email him if you're unable to locate the thread - it was a long time ago; maybe almost a year or more)
02-12-2003, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B
I just measured my H&Rs with 235/45R17s. Front gap 2.1" and the rear gap 2.0". With me sitting in the car, the gaps got to 1.8" front and 1.8 rear. This is on a fully loaded 96 SE 5 speed. Looks pretty even to me. Seriously, H&Rs look plenty low for a 4th gen.
Slammed cars ride like complete crap. What's fun about riding on the bumpstops? Ferraris, Vettes, and Vipers have more wheel gap than I do.
Dave
I just measured my H&Rs with 235/45R17s. Front gap 2.1" and the rear gap 2.0". With me sitting in the car, the gaps got to 1.8" front and 1.8 rear. This is on a fully loaded 96 SE 5 speed. Looks pretty even to me. Seriously, H&Rs look plenty low for a 4th gen.
Slammed cars ride like complete crap. What's fun about riding on the bumpstops? Ferraris, Vettes, and Vipers have more wheel gap than I do.
Dave
02-12-2003, 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
H&R and eibach gives an even drop
H&R and eibach gives an even drop
Geeeez and I always wondered why one day you appeared on my ignore list without me putting you there. Now I see why. But I took you off because I didnt put you there some one else did
02-12-2003, 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB
I agree. The above statement applies only to 5-speeds/manual tranny, of course. The B&G is a great spring if you have an automatic. Nice drop, good handling, excellent ride-quality.
I agree. The above statement applies only to 5-speeds/manual tranny, of course. The B&G is a great spring if you have an automatic. Nice drop, good handling, excellent ride-quality.
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02-12-2003, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by JAY25
this the reason why I dont post on what suspension threads anymore. Is BS like this that makes me ignore the subject. Which suspension is supreme or rides like cush or what spring gives me the even drop. I if anyone cares I had picky people in New Orleans ride in my car and no complaints I dont know why we have some many girls complaining about the suspension set up. F U C K all that if you have that many complaints and issues leave your sh it stock and dont modify it. Or buy a honda those drop very nice.
this the reason why I dont post on what suspension threads anymore. Is BS like this that makes me ignore the subject. Which suspension is supreme or rides like cush or what spring gives me the even drop. I if anyone cares I had picky people in New Orleans ride in my car and no complaints I dont know why we have some many girls complaining about the suspension set up. F U C K all that if you have that many complaints and issues leave your sh it stock and dont modify it. Or buy a honda those drop very nice.
1) H&Rs drop the car nearly even. If within .1" is not close to even, then go join the federal offices of "Weights & Measures"
2) H&Rs drop the 4th gen Maxima ~1.8" with 2" gaps front and back. Not exactly "hardly" a drop.
3) Riding on springs that lower the 4th/5th gen Maxima more than 2.2" will cause the ride to be crappy. Riding on bumpstops is neither fun nor good on the car. Motivational rear mounts should be on everyone's list if you're going to get any type of lowering spring.
4) Slammed cars DO NOT necessarily handle better
5) Suspension travel means everything. Take a look at how much suspension travel an M3 has then get back to me. BMWs don't exactly corner flat, but they stick.
6) Calling someone a "Girl" because they prefer to have a softer lowered ride only makes you look more ignorant. While you're slammed Max is pogoing and sliding off the road because of a slightly bumpy turn, the softer sprung, slightly higher riding Max is gliding thru the turn with no loss of control or composure.
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02-12-2003, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by JAY25
this the reason why I dont post on what suspension threads anymore. Is BS like this that makes me ignore the subject. Which suspension is supreme or rides like cush or what spring gives me the even drop. I if anyone cares I had picky people in New Orleans ride in my car and no complaints I dont know why we have some many girls complaining about the suspension set up. F U C K all that if you have that many complaints and issues leave your sh it stock and dont modify it. Or buy a honda those drop very nice.
this the reason why I dont post on what suspension threads anymore. Is BS like this that makes me ignore the subject. Which suspension is supreme or rides like cush or what spring gives me the even drop. I if anyone cares I had picky people in New Orleans ride in my car and no complaints I dont know why we have some many girls complaining about the suspension set up. F U C K all that if you have that many complaints and issues leave your sh it stock and dont modify it. Or buy a honda those drop very nice.
- Sprints for me. It should do the 5spds pretty good I think. I will let you know come this summer. 
02-12-2003, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax
- Sprints for me. It should do the 5spds pretty good I think. I will let you know come this summer.
- Sprints for me. It should do the 5spds pretty good I think. I will let you know come this summer.
02-12-2003, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by enticiveblkmax
if you live in an area where the roads are not taken care of, avoid sprints. having a "real looking drop" is not worth the uncomfortable ride. But if you have smooth roads...lucky you.
if you live in an area where the roads are not taken care of, avoid sprints. having a "real looking drop" is not worth the uncomfortable ride. But if you have smooth roads...lucky you.
Not to be a d#ck about this , but I have seen everybodies complaints and whatnot. I really dont mind a harsh ride if that is what it comes down to. Why would I want to upgrade springs that you cant tell much about the drop. I am trying to get rid of the 4X4 not bring it back to life. I had maxspeeds and cut them. I hate them. Didnt drop much. So if you want to awake the 4X4 again then more power to you. I dont.
No need to try and change my mind or argue with me about this. My mind is made up. Take Care....
02-13-2003, 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by KWheelzSB
I agree. The above statement applies only to 5-speeds/manual tranny, of course. The B&G is a great spring if you have an automatic. Nice drop, good handling, excellent ride-quality.
Search for old threads on "springs" with .org member "dashingmax"
He went with B&G's on his 5-speed & ended up having to use spring spacers in the rear to make the gap look better. He had no heavy audio in the trunk.
(email him if you're unable to locate the thread - it was a long time ago; maybe almost a year or more)
I agree. The above statement applies only to 5-speeds/manual tranny, of course. The B&G is a great spring if you have an automatic. Nice drop, good handling, excellent ride-quality.
Search for old threads on "springs" with .org member "dashingmax"
He went with B&G's on his 5-speed & ended up having to use spring spacers in the rear to make the gap look better. He had no heavy audio in the trunk.
(email him if you're unable to locate the thread - it was a long time ago; maybe almost a year or more)
If I had to do everything again, I'd go with H&R or some other spring that offers less drop in the rear than the fronts...
02-13-2003, 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by enticiveblkmax
if you live in an area where the roads are not taken care of, avoid sprints. having a "real looking drop" is not worth the uncomfortable ride. But if you have smooth roads...lucky you.
if you live in an area where the roads are not taken care of, avoid sprints. having a "real looking drop" is not worth the uncomfortable ride. But if you have smooth roads...lucky you.
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02-13-2003, 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by iansw
Not to mention busted axles....
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Not to mention busted axles....
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Busted axles.... How many times have you changed your axles since you had the car? And you have a 97 right?
02-14-2003, 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax
Busted axles.... How many times have you changed your axles since you had the car? And you have a 97 right?
Busted axles.... How many times have you changed your axles since you had the car? And you have a 97 right?
I don't really see what the year has to do with it - the suspension and frame is 100% the same on all 4th Gens.
02-14-2003, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by iansw
3 axles in 3 months.....you know this, man.
I don't really see what the year has to do with it - the suspension and frame is 100% the same on all 4th Gens.
3 axles in 3 months.....you know this, man.
I don't really see what the year has to do with it - the suspension and frame is 100% the same on all 4th Gens.
Well I was going to say they just wore out and needed replacing. But might have been your springs or roads. OR springs and roads. Plus I dont know if struts makes a big difference in this factor...A 97 maxima is 6 yrs old now. Mine is 7 and I have replaced one of mine due to it just waring out.