Im trying to figure out if a CV joint in an axle failes due to the low drop the sprints offer... I talked to Marty at Raxles.com and what he was very informative, that lowering a front wheel drive car too much will rub the inner joint and boots to wear down even more and not let it to work properly as it was when stock...

Anyone out there with sprints have axle failure at all...I have to figure out if I have to change my springs before I put in this rare as he** LSD-Axle


-matt

 

I lost and axle when riding on Sprints

 

I have had my sprint springs for like a year now, and have not had any problems with my axels or uneven tire wear. I don't have any camber bolts or camber plates either.

 

It probably has to do with #1 Year, #2 Power to the ground, #3 How you drive your car, #4 auto or 5spd

I talked to Marty today and I am convinced that 2" is too much. Im sorry I love the drop, but I hate spending money, and alot, on maintnence stuff like axles...

He told me that he did a test with a Honda and put a bunch of weight in the car till the front CV joint started rubbing (bad wear wrong and crap out) then took alittle bit out till they cleared and measured how far of a drop is safe. 1.4" he came up with..
I know he's right since Nissan puts alot of research in finding where the axle works right...I sound like my dad He said he will be testing a Maxima soon

-matt

 

1 - same year as ian
2 - more power to the ground
3 - drive it like i stole it
4 - 5spd and thats more stress with hard launches

Sprint Springs... 1st org member to own sprint springs... never had a problem

 

With the exception of #2, I don't have that many performance mods.

 

I dont know then...Im all confused

-matt

 

i'm now thinkin' if i should get these or not... hmmm... any more info to make me decide?

 

Nabil had them first since he prototyped them, but who's keeping track.

 

All I have to say is...

Sprint Springs =

I personally think 2" is too much of a drop for a Maxima. I didn't like the Sprint Springs when I had them on my car. I'm lowering my car this Spring with H&Rs.

-Nick

 

yea I'm gettin eibachs

 

I have said over and over again, I don't know about anyone else - I don't care about anyone else.

Pesonally, I have 277hp, and live in a city with VERY bad roads (worst roads for any city over 50,000 people) <Seattle>

I have eaten 3 axles in as many months.

Marti analyzed my CV Joint I sent back to him, and said definately it was from the drop. That guy knows more about axles than anyone I've ever talked to, so I tend to believe him.

So, again, I say yes, Sprints CAN cause axle failure - but it seems not for everyone, just a few of us.

If you want the drop, enjoy it - chances are you won't ever have a problem, but those chances are definately more than being dropped on a higher spring, that's all.

IanS

 

1) Older
2) not as much power though
3) road raced, autoXex, and drag races on SLICKS
4) 5spd
5) on ground control coilovers, lower than any sprint spring could dream of being.
6) car has 140K miles and still on original cv boots
7) knock on wood that this doesn't cause me to break an axle tomorrow.

 

The #1 breaker of parts will chime in here. I had sprints, never broke a CV shaft. But broke plenty of transmissions!

 

Well, look at this way, they'll be a lot of Sprints for sale soon.

I think the front end drop of the Sprints is simply too low from a suspension travel standpoint. The CV axle failure seems very plausible to me, but you do have to understand your sources. Marty at R-axles will probably be more quick to point out a failure with something you modified on the car vs admitting his product might be faulty.

You guys really need to start a poll in the main forum asking who's had CV axles failures compared to their drop height and not necessarily the make of the spring.

Adding springs to a higher mileage and older car can end up breaking and tearing CV boots. The boots have been formed to mostly work at a certain angle and now you instantly changed the angle which may stress an already weak boot. This still doesn't explain Ian's problem. I think Ian should definately raise his car up a bit just to see if the Sprints were the problem.


Dave

 

Marti at Raxles said this:

"It's from too much lowering - don't worry, I'll cover my product for life no matter what, so I'll ship you a new one right away, but just so you know, it's definately from lowering it."

That tells me he's not saying this for the money - and the guy really is the best customer service I've ever seen.

 

they wern't officially on the market and he didn't buy them

i guess i should say the first org member to purchase Sprint Springs

wern't you like number 3 or something?

 

ive had sprints since they first came out...i havent had any problems.

 

Amen brotha, I am on cut front intrax 2.1 drop and I drive it like I stole it, and alot of people know that. No broken axles to this day. If sprints are that sh!tty then no one would buy them. I dont understand why a couple of you guys are snapping or breaking them. I lived in New Orleans and boy did I hit a handful of potholes and so did cumalot.

 

Thats what I dont understand..why are some people have this problem and some not at all.

Marty at raxles definetly knows his Shi* and I totally trust him..I dont know maybe all you guys are lucky SOB's

-matt

 

You also have to understand 2 things...

1) I have 277hp, and boost pretty much all the time
2) Unless you've been to Seattle, you wouldn't understand the roads....there are many, many places where the potholes cross the entire road, and there's nothing you can do but try and slow down....but in the rain, often you can't see the ptoholes until it's too late.

I mean the roads here are BAD - so bad the situation is on the local news almost every day, and the Mayor's approval rating is dropping because of it. The city paid over $1 MILLION in damages to people's cars last year because of the bad roads....And that's JUST the City of Seattle. Actually, outside of Seattle in the suburbs, the roads aren't half bad.

But I live and work downtown, and when I do leave the city, I have to use the City freeways, which are worse than the city streets.....metal strips on elevated freeway with 4-6" lips, for instance, for 5 miles, every 100 feet.

Once I get across the bridge to the Eastside, it's not half bad.

 

I could not live in a city like that. I know New Orleans have some nasty roads, that will make you do a U turn immediately when you go thru one and take the long way around. I had to avoid short cuts for that reason but when it rains they fill with water so your just as sed out.

Matty you may be right about some of us been lucky SOBeees , theres like four of you guys with this problem.

Now as far as the tranny problem Eric Wong, I spoke to Cattmans mechanic with the quiafe when you take the play measurement you can not use that precise measurement. Meaning you have to shim the quaife leaving 0-3 thousandths of inch of play. Why becuase you know when something is heated up it expands when this happens it can lead to bearing or gear failure. I have to put that in the write up. I dont know if that was the problem with you and Brian not saying that was the problem but that might have been an issue since your tranny was sound prior to the quaife install.

 

I dont understand..Probably the # axle guy in the counrty sais it from lowering too much..and some guys have problems and some dont..hmmmm I hate this shi*

 

life is full of choice.. some of them we make will be good.. soem will be bad.. but you have to take a chance.. or not take a chance.. thats how life is..

 

Update:

I just put my car on the correct B&G springs, and the CV Joint click is now gone....still going to replace it, because Marti is sending me one anyway, but that should tell you all something.