hwy race with intrepid and special guest
02-22-2003, 04:07 PM
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hwy race with intrepid and special guest
this morning around 2AM I'm driving home and I saw my buddy mario drivin by in his intrepid R/T. i flash my highbeams, he pulls over next to me and we're talkin for a little bit. he hasn't seen my car for a few weeks, so he's giving me a lot of compliments on the drop (brian's AGX and Sprint combo). he's had his car for all of about a month and has been trying to race me the entire time, so I decided to go.
bear in mind that it's 2AM and we're going on the highway, so it's not as stupid as racing on residential streets and quite a bit safer. we get on and there's a few cars scattered on the road, so we can't both pull over and start on 3rd honk. we started at about 70, but he always gets about a carlength on me at 100+. i guess the 52 extra horsepower and 38 extra ft/lbs of torque help out a liitle. then again, i have a y-pipe and frankencar in a car that's roughly 500lbs lighter. i had a full tank of gas, though. oh, and i'm autotragic... it'll be different from a dead start; at least that's what i keep telling myself.
regardless, about half way through our race, i see a pair of blueish HID's start gaining on us... i switch to the right lane to pass a slow moving car (every car is a slow moving car when you're going 125) and he pulls about to my bumper. i take a look and it's an older geeky-looking guy in an all black G20 with rims, hid's (or just bulbs) and exhaust, maybe lowered too. so we both gun it and we're about neck and neck, but have to split up to get through traffic. he takes an offramp and i take the next one, but mario keeps going.
as i pull off the highway and am standing at a red light, a cop pulls up on the intersecting street and pulls onto the highway, so i call mario and let him know, luckily he's off the highway already.
that guy must have some serious work... it's a 200sx engine, right? i think i've seen turbo kits for it, there's definately a badass SR20DET swap for it, though. i don't think it was nitrous because i don't think i saw any gauges and he was sticking with us for about a minute or so. maybe a bit longer.
oh well, not a bad way to start a saturday morning. i need a vb mod and nos if i wanna be fast, but i think I'm happy just being quick for now.
NO i will NOT do a 5-spd swap. i drive with my right hand and smoke with my left.
bear in mind that it's 2AM and we're going on the highway, so it's not as stupid as racing on residential streets and quite a bit safer. we get on and there's a few cars scattered on the road, so we can't both pull over and start on 3rd honk. we started at about 70, but he always gets about a carlength on me at 100+. i guess the 52 extra horsepower and 38 extra ft/lbs of torque help out a liitle. then again, i have a y-pipe and frankencar in a car that's roughly 500lbs lighter. i had a full tank of gas, though. oh, and i'm autotragic... it'll be different from a dead start; at least that's what i keep telling myself.
regardless, about half way through our race, i see a pair of blueish HID's start gaining on us... i switch to the right lane to pass a slow moving car (every car is a slow moving car when you're going 125) and he pulls about to my bumper. i take a look and it's an older geeky-looking guy in an all black G20 with rims, hid's (or just bulbs) and exhaust, maybe lowered too. so we both gun it and we're about neck and neck, but have to split up to get through traffic. he takes an offramp and i take the next one, but mario keeps going.
as i pull off the highway and am standing at a red light, a cop pulls up on the intersecting street and pulls onto the highway, so i call mario and let him know, luckily he's off the highway already.
that guy must have some serious work... it's a 200sx engine, right? i think i've seen turbo kits for it, there's definately a badass SR20DET swap for it, though. i don't think it was nitrous because i don't think i saw any gauges and he was sticking with us for about a minute or so. maybe a bit longer.
oh well, not a bad way to start a saturday morning. i need a vb mod and nos if i wanna be fast, but i think I'm happy just being quick for now.
NO i will NOT do a 5-spd swap. i drive with my right hand and smoke with my left.
02-22-2003, 04:14 PM
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wow a hooked up g20, dont see those too often
02-22-2003, 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
wow a hooked up g20, dont see those too often
wow a hooked up g20, dont see those too often
02-22-2003, 05:13 PM
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before my 2k3, I had a 1998 SE Automatic...before that I had a 1998 Sentra SE with the sr20de and close-ratio 5 speed.
The 0-60 times were the same for the 1998 Sentra SE 5 speed, and the 1998 Maxima Automatic. 0-60 in 8.5 seconds (approx) 1/4 mile times were both around 16.5
was the G20 a newer one, or the original version?
The original was lighter, and quicker...should hang with you stock for stock...except my Sentra had a limiter at 115mph
The G20 didn't need that much work to hang with you...
It has 140bhp, and 132lbft of torque STOCK
vs. you having 190 and 205 stock
but he more than likely had the close ratio 5 speed, and is MUCH lighter.
all this being said, I liked my 1998 Maxima better than my 1998 Sentra.
I bought the Sentra brand new, and traded it in for the 1998 Maxima in 2000.
-vq
The 0-60 times were the same for the 1998 Sentra SE 5 speed, and the 1998 Maxima Automatic. 0-60 in 8.5 seconds (approx) 1/4 mile times were both around 16.5
was the G20 a newer one, or the original version?
The original was lighter, and quicker...should hang with you stock for stock...except my Sentra had a limiter at 115mph
The G20 didn't need that much work to hang with you...
It has 140bhp, and 132lbft of torque STOCK
vs. you having 190 and 205 stock
but he more than likely had the close ratio 5 speed, and is MUCH lighter.
all this being said, I liked my 1998 Maxima better than my 1998 Sentra.
I bought the Sentra brand new, and traded it in for the 1998 Maxima in 2000.
-vq
02-22-2003, 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
before my 2k3, I had a 1998 SE Automatic...before that I had a 1998 Sentra SE with the sr20de and close-ratio 5 speed.
The 0-60 times were the same for the 1998 Sentra SE 5 speed, and the 1998 Maxima Automatic. 0-60 in 8.5 seconds (approx) 1/4 mile times were both around 16.5
was the G20 a newer one, or the original version?
The original was lighter, and quicker...should hang with you stock for stock...except my Sentra had a limiter at 115mph
The G20 didn't need that much work to hang with you...
It has 140bhp, and 132lbft of torque STOCK
vs. you having 190 and 205 stock
but he more than likely had the close ratio 5 speed, and is MUCH lighter.
all this being said, I liked my 1998 Maxima better than my 1998 Sentra.
I bought the Sentra brand new, and traded it in for the 1998 Maxima in 2000.
-vq
before my 2k3, I had a 1998 SE Automatic...before that I had a 1998 Sentra SE with the sr20de and close-ratio 5 speed.
The 0-60 times were the same for the 1998 Sentra SE 5 speed, and the 1998 Maxima Automatic. 0-60 in 8.5 seconds (approx) 1/4 mile times were both around 16.5
was the G20 a newer one, or the original version?
The original was lighter, and quicker...should hang with you stock for stock...except my Sentra had a limiter at 115mph
The G20 didn't need that much work to hang with you...
It has 140bhp, and 132lbft of torque STOCK
vs. you having 190 and 205 stock
but he more than likely had the close ratio 5 speed, and is MUCH lighter.
all this being said, I liked my 1998 Maxima better than my 1998 Sentra.
I bought the Sentra brand new, and traded it in for the 1998 Maxima in 2000.
-vq
0-60 is more like 6.5 and 1/4 mile is like 15.8. 8.4 and 16.5 are pretty crappy numbers. I don't know where you got them from. Maybe the Sentra does 0-60 in 8.4 but the Max...not even close
02-22-2003, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by TheMax95
The 98 Maxima auto doesn't do 0-60 in 8.4 and 1/4 mile in 16.5!!!
0-60 is more like 6.5 and 1/4 mile is like 15.8. 8.4 and 16.5 are pretty crappy numbers. I don't know where you got them from. Maybe the Sentra does 0-60 in 8.4 but the Max...not even close
The 98 Maxima auto doesn't do 0-60 in 8.4 and 1/4 mile in 16.5!!!
0-60 is more like 6.5 and 1/4 mile is like 15.8. 8.4 and 16.5 are pretty crappy numbers. I don't know where you got them from. Maybe the Sentra does 0-60 in 8.4 but the Max...not even close
And yes, those intrepid R/Ts/Concorde LXi's/300Ms arent to shabby for their weight and length. My mom has the 3.2L Concorde LXi and the sucker moves for a heavy full size sedan
eric
02-22-2003, 09:17 PM
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i like how people always add in a rationalization -as to why their race was safe. for example, it was late and no one was around, the highway was clear for miles, so it wasnt a dumb thing to do.
just an observation.
just an observation.
02-22-2003, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by sil SE
i like how people always add in a rationalization -as to why their race was safe. for example, it was late and no one was around, the highway was clear for miles, so it wasnt a dumb thing to do.
just an observation.
i like how people always add in a rationalization -as to why their race was safe. for example, it was late and no one was around, the highway was clear for miles, so it wasnt a dumb thing to do.
just an observation.
02-23-2003, 01:06 PM
#10
Originally posted by sil SE
i like how people always add in a rationalization -as to why their race was safe. for example, it was late and no one was around, the highway was clear for miles, so it wasnt a dumb thing to do.
just an observation.
i like how people always add in a rationalization -as to why their race was safe. for example, it was late and no one was around, the highway was clear for miles, so it wasnt a dumb thing to do.
just an observation.
02-23-2003, 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
was the G20 a newer one, or the original version?
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was the G20 a newer one, or the original version?
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Originally posted by VQMAN
The original was lighter, and quicker...should hang with you stock for stock...except my Sentra had a limiter at 115mph
The G20 didn't need that much work to hang with you...
It has 140bhp, and 132lbft of torque STOCK
vs. you having 190 and 205 stock
but he more than likely had the close ratio 5 speed, and is MUCH lighter.
[/B]
The original was lighter, and quicker...should hang with you stock for stock...except my Sentra had a limiter at 115mph
The G20 didn't need that much work to hang with you...
It has 140bhp, and 132lbft of torque STOCK
vs. you having 190 and 205 stock
but he more than likely had the close ratio 5 speed, and is MUCH lighter.
[/B]
1996 G20/2000 G20/1996 Maxima
2877 lbs/2961 lbs/3001 lbs.
140 HP/145 HP/190 HP
132 ft-lbs/136 ft-lbs/205 ft-lbs
as you can see, regardless of generation, I am within 150lbs of him and have 50 more HP and 70 more ft/lbs of torque. as far as I know it was never offered with a manual. the stock g20 runs the 1/4 in low 17's from here and cardomain pages. the 96 max does it in high 15's low 16's. in short; you're wrong.
sprint: is that an SR20DET swap?
02-23-2003, 02:20 PM
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I thought you cannot DET a p11 G20...ecu problems? I know someone put a sr20VE in the p11, but I don't think anyone has gone DET with a p11 yet. The older p10s are different, I think they are a direct swap
If it was an old one, it was probably a DET...if it was a newer one, it was probably NOS.
If it was an old one, it was probably a DET...if it was a newer one, it was probably NOS.
02-23-2003, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by dko
either newer or an older one with a bodykit.
from edmunds:
1996 G20/2000 G20/1996 Maxima
2877 lbs/2961 lbs/3001 lbs.
140 HP/145 HP/190 HP
132 ft-lbs/136 ft-lbs/205 ft-lbs
as you can see, regardless of generation, I am within 150lbs of him and have 50 more HP and 70 more ft/lbs of torque. as far as I know it was never offered with a manual. the stock g20 runs the 1/4 in low 17's from here and cardomain pages. the 96 max does it in high 15's low 16's. in short; you're wrong.
sprint: is that an SR20DET swap?
either newer or an older one with a bodykit.
from edmunds:
1996 G20/2000 G20/1996 Maxima
2877 lbs/2961 lbs/3001 lbs.
140 HP/145 HP/190 HP
132 ft-lbs/136 ft-lbs/205 ft-lbs
as you can see, regardless of generation, I am within 150lbs of him and have 50 more HP and 70 more ft/lbs of torque. as far as I know it was never offered with a manual. the stock g20 runs the 1/4 in low 17's from here and cardomain pages. the 96 max does it in high 15's low 16's. in short; you're wrong.
sprint: is that an SR20DET swap?
those things are ALOT heavier than a Sentra....
low 16's is all I'll believe for the autotragic Maxima.
I had one, and it was no quicker than my Sentra...high 15's maybe on the coast with high pressure in the winter time with a 130lb driver and no back seat/spare tire...
"in short; you're wrong."?
-why did I bother coming to the 4th Gen thread? nice tact buddy, you're cool
-vq
02-23-2003, 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by JsL
I thought you cannot DET a p11 G20...ecu problems? I know someone put a sr20VE in the p11, but I don't think anyone has gone DET with a p11 yet. The older p10s are different, I think they are a direct swap
If it was an old one, it was probably a DET...if it was a newer one, it was probably NOS.
I thought you cannot DET a p11 G20...ecu problems? I know someone put a sr20VE in the p11, but I don't think anyone has gone DET with a p11 yet. The older p10s are different, I think they are a direct swap
If it was an old one, it was probably a DET...if it was a newer one, it was probably NOS.
http://srswap.com/html/products/bbsr20det.htm
02-23-2003, 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
yeah, the G20 came with a 5 speed...
those things are ALOT heavier than a Sentra....
yeah, the G20 came with a 5 speed...
those things are ALOT heavier than a Sentra....
Originally posted by VQMAN
low 16's is all I'll believe for the autotragic Maxima.
low 16's is all I'll believe for the autotragic Maxima.
Originally posted by VQMAN
"in short; you're wrong."?
-why did I bother coming to the 4th Gen thread? nice tact buddy, you're cool
"in short; you're wrong."?
-why did I bother coming to the 4th Gen thread? nice tact buddy, you're cool
02-23-2003, 05:08 PM
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to but this bickering to rest, a G20 WILL NOT hang with a well-running Autotragic max, PERIOD!! They are mid-to high (in some cases lower) 15 secs cars, period!. G20s dont run near that...period!
The R/T intrepid is a much better competitor...
eric
The R/T intrepid is a much better competitor...
eric
02-23-2003, 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
to but this bickering to rest, a G20 WILL NOT hang with a well-running Autotragic max, PERIOD!! They are mid-to high (in some cases lower) 15 secs cars, period!. G20s dont run near that...period!
The R/T intrepid is a much better competitor...
to but this bickering to rest, a G20 WILL NOT hang with a well-running Autotragic max, PERIOD!! They are mid-to high (in some cases lower) 15 secs cars, period!. G20s dont run near that...period!
The R/T intrepid is a much better competitor...
02-23-2003, 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by dko
that's what i was saying. that that guy had to have done alot of work to hang with us.
that's what i was saying. that that guy had to have done alot of work to hang with us.
eric
02-23-2003, 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
to but this bickering to rest, a G20 WILL NOT hang with a well-running Autotragic max, PERIOD!! They are mid-to high (in some cases lower) 15 secs cars, period!. G20s dont run near that...period!
The R/T intrepid is a much better competitor...
eric
to but this bickering to rest, a G20 WILL NOT hang with a well-running Autotragic max, PERIOD!! They are mid-to high (in some cases lower) 15 secs cars, period!. G20s dont run near that...period!
The R/T intrepid is a much better competitor...
eric
about the guy running a 15.1 with a cone filter...is dko modded? if you are modded, then yes, the G20 would need TONS of mods to keep up with you. but I'd imagine that moderator that ran a 15.1 with just a cone filter was at see level, or close.
Dave B ran a 14.8 with alot of mods, and a 5 speed in his 4th gen Max.
But then he wasn't at sea level, and it was 70+ degrees out, and barometric pressure was low that day.
In 1998 Nissan claimed that the Maxima did 0-60 in 8.5 seconds, and that the Sentra SE did 0-60 in 8.5 seconds. I have the sales pros/cons book from when I used to sell.
again, i figured (wrongly) that the G20 was of similar weight to the Sentra...but it weighs as much as a Maxima....so of course it won't hang.
-vq
02-23-2003, 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by dko
the moderator that posted above you (Ben) ran 15.1 with a cone filter.
the moderator that posted above you (Ben) ran 15.1 with a cone filter.
a cone filter and....
35 degrees out
sea level
slicks
-vq
02-23-2003, 06:13 PM
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that 15.1 was on a perfect day, with perfect baro pressure, perfect PSI, perect launch, perfect humidity, perfect temperature, get where im going? Probably never gonna be duplicated again, hell, maybe they gave him the wrong slip, happened to me today, had my number (N29) yet had a 15.888sec run, HOWEVER, my friend was recording the run and it said i did my BEST OF THE DAY 15.01!! WTF!! damn B!tch in the tower screwed up!!
eric
eric
02-24-2003, 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
hang...but after going from myh 1998 Sentra Se to a 1998 Maxima SE and not noticing much of a difference, you could see why I thought (if the G20 was lighter than it is) it would hang.
hang...but after going from myh 1998 Sentra Se to a 1998 Maxima SE and not noticing much of a difference, you could see why I thought (if the G20 was lighter than it is) it would hang.
Originally posted by VQMAN
about the guy running a 15.1 with a cone filter...is dko modded? if you are modded, then yes, the G20 would need TONS of mods to keep up with you. but I'd imagine that moderator that ran a 15.1 with just a cone filter was at see level, or close.
In 1998 Nissan claimed that the Maxima did 0-60 in 8.5 seconds, and that the Sentra SE did 0-60 in 8.5 seconds. I have the sales pros/cons book from when I used to sell.
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about the guy running a 15.1 with a cone filter...is dko modded? if you are modded, then yes, the G20 would need TONS of mods to keep up with you. but I'd imagine that moderator that ran a 15.1 with just a cone filter was at see level, or close.
In 1998 Nissan claimed that the Maxima did 0-60 in 8.5 seconds, and that the Sentra SE did 0-60 in 8.5 seconds. I have the sales pros/cons book from when I used to sell.
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