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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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How much fluid will be used during brake line change & bleed process?

I was reading through the write up in the "shop talk" section of the .org and it had a write up on installing stainless steel brake lines. I understand the procedure but have a question regarding bleeding the brakes.

Where can I buy the Speedbleeders mentioned? And how much do they cost?

Also, the write up indicated that the Stillen kit (which I have) includes "more than enough brake fluid" for the bleeding process. The three containers of fluid. I have never bled or changed brake fluid before. So how much extra will I have left over from those three containers after bleeding all the brakes and changing the fluid with the Motul 600? Thank you.

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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When bleeding/changing the brake fluid over from OEM to the aftermarket fluid, how much will I use? I don't want to get into this job and run out of the brake fluid. Should I order a couple more containers of the brake fluid or am I 100% certain of not running out? Thanks
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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Well it depends how how much you allow the fluid to run out before closing that particlar bleeder screw.

I would probably buy 4 small bottles and then just return the ones you didn't use.
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Well it depends how how much you allow the fluid to run out before closing that particlar bleeder screw.

I would probably buy 4 small bottles and then just return the ones you didn't use.
Dumb question but here goes. Is it a definite "no no" to blend synthetic brake fluids? For example, I have three bottles of the Motul 600 fluid. If for some reason I was to need a little more than the three bottles, is it bad to use a different brand synthetic brake fluid to finish the job?
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I wouldn't mix. Three should be enough. Just bleed each side(make sure you start on the proper wheel) just until you see it running clear. Then go do the next side. If you run the MS dry, then you have to waste alot more fluid getting the air out of the lines again.

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Dumb question but here goes. Is it a definite "no no" to blend synthetic brake fluids? For example, I have three bottles of the Motul 600 fluid. If for some reason I was to need a little more than the three bottles, is it bad to use a different brand synthetic brake fluid to finish the job?
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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i have another version of speedbleeders if you want them, a set of 4 for $25 shipped. tell me if you want it.
Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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I wouldn't mix. Three should be enough. Just bleed each side(make sure you start on the proper wheel) just until you see it running clear. Then go do the next side. If you run the MS dry, then you have to waste alot more fluid getting the air out of the lines again.

Ok. Thanks Jeff. I'll probably just use a friend during the process, though. Regardless of whether I use the "Speedbleeders" or use a friend to help, I should in theory use the same amount of brake fluid?
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Yeah more or less about the same.

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Ok. Thanks Jeff. I'll probably just use a friend during the process, though. Regardless of whether I use the "Speedbleeders" or use a friend to help, I should in theory use the same amount of brake fluid?
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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The trick is to get the master cylinder and reservoir completely full of clean fresh fluid. The lines don't hold much volume, the calipers once fully retracted don't have much fluid in them either.

Start on the right rear (furthest away) and suck until the master cylinder is almost empty. Fill it back up, then suck again until it's almost completely empty again. (be carefull not to get air in) Fill it back up again and you should have clean, clear fluid in the system. Suck again on the same caliper until about 50% of the fluid is drawn out of the master cylinder reservoir. Refill again and you've got a system and one line full of clean new fluid.

The other 3 lines & calipers will flush fast, you can see the fluid turns clean very quickly because the system it's drawing from is full of new, clean fluid.

I recommend a vacuum pump bleeder for this process, it makes it a one man job.

One grande bottle of brake fluid is more then enough to flush the brake system.
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I use a pressure bleeder for true one man job use. With the vacuum units, you will have to make sure the MS is full right?

One thing. I would recommend using multiple small bottles. Because once you open the bottle, the contents are useless after a few months. So if you want to keep spare fluid, I would only really recommend keeping unopened bottles in the shelf. No use ruining a 1/2-3/4 full big bottle.

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I recommend a vacuum pump bleeder for this process, it makes it a one man job.

One grande bottle of brake fluid is more then enough to flush the brake system.
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