hey guys, i recently called my Nissan dealership for a price quote to change the front brake pads out only and they asked for $140 to do this, which includes the part.
My question is... is it necessary to "machine the rotors"? Cuz this guy quoted me $230 to machine the rotors and change the front brake pads and he made it sound like a huge deal to get them machined otherwise the "rotors will vibrate alot with the new pads and the rotors won't be grooved right to the new pads?".
I think my rotors are perfectly fine still, but do you guys think I should pay an extra $90 and do what this guy recommends? I'm not sure if this guy is just trying to rip me off some more by doing this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot.
My question is... is it necessary to "machine the rotors"? Cuz this guy quoted me $230 to machine the rotors and change the front brake pads and he made it sound like a huge deal to get them machined otherwise the "rotors will vibrate alot with the new pads and the rotors won't be grooved right to the new pads?".
I think my rotors are perfectly fine still, but do you guys think I should pay an extra $90 and do what this guy recommends? I'm not sure if this guy is just trying to rip me off some more by doing this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot.
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If your brakes exhibit no vibration and the braking surface
is relatively smooth with no deep grooves, all you need are
new pads.
is relatively smooth with no deep grooves, all you need are
new pads.
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Originally posted by maximaxgtr
hey guys, i recently called my Nissan dealership for a price quote to change the front brake pads out only and they asked for $140 to do this, which includes the part.
My question is... is it necessary to "machine the rotors"? Cuz this guy quoted me $230 to machine the rotors and change the front brake pads and he made it sound like a huge deal to get them machined otherwise the "rotors will vibrate alot with the new pads and the rotors won't be grooved right to the new pads?".
I think my rotors are perfectly fine still, but do you guys think I should pay an extra $90 and do what this guy recommends? I'm not sure if this guy is just trying to rip me off some more by doing this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot.
Originally posted by maximaxgtr
hey guys, i recently called my Nissan dealership for a price quote to change the front brake pads out only and they asked for $140 to do this, which includes the part.
My question is... is it necessary to "machine the rotors"? Cuz this guy quoted me $230 to machine the rotors and change the front brake pads and he made it sound like a huge deal to get them machined otherwise the "rotors will vibrate alot with the new pads and the rotors won't be grooved right to the new pads?".
I think my rotors are perfectly fine still, but do you guys think I should pay an extra $90 and do what this guy recommends? I'm not sure if this guy is just trying to rip me off some more by doing this. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot.
It used to be a rule of thumb that you machine the rotors every other brake job. But, recently, every shop/dealer has been doing it everytime to get that extra 50 dollars or so lol......
I would just replace the pads if the rotors appear to be in great shape, both inside and outside surfaces......
I would just replace the pads if the rotors appear to be in great shape, both inside and outside surfaces......
You don't need to get them machined. The super shiny surface is better for braking than a freshly machine cut surface. The reason they want to machine them is to make money. What a better way to make one hour worth of labor just letting a brake lathe do everything while you sit around.
If you want to have them replaced by a shop go somewhere else. I pay $140 dollars for the complete job, resurfacing included, at my local Nissan dealer. I thought I was paying too much, now I don't feel so bad.
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Just bought a set of (4 Brembo Rotors & 4 Axxis pads). Total with shipping was a little over $ 300. Should have them in couple of days and labor is costing me $ 100. Pep Boys quoted me $ 500 with only new pads, 2 new front rotors, and resurfiesed the rear rotors. I asked them how much for the labor if I bring my own **** in, and $ 220 is what they told me. Plus all those parts were some bullsh!t brand. Does 1 bill sounds about right for the laber?
Andrei
Andrei
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hell i got charged like 180 to get a set of front pads put on my max at firestone back in WV. everytime i went to that shop (which wasnt often) i always needed new pads on front or back. so they got bout 3 brake jobs outta me in 1 YEAR. aint that some ****?
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Originally posted by Nismo98
Just bought a set of (4 Brembo Rotors & 4 Axxis pads). Total with shipping was a little over $ 300. Should have them in couple of days and labor is costing me $ 100. Pep Boys quoted me $ 500 with only new pads, 2 new front rotors, and resurfiesed the rear rotors. I asked them how much for the labor if I bring my own **** in, and $ 220 is what they told me. Plus all those parts were some bullsh!t brand. Does 1 bill sounds about right for the laber?
Andrei
I think Pep Boys offers 2 grades of Raybestos Pads on their brake jobs. Raybestos is a quality line! $100 is a fair price if caliper pins are cleaned, checked for wear and regreased.Originally posted by Nismo98
Just bought a set of (4 Brembo Rotors & 4 Axxis pads). Total with shipping was a little over $ 300. Should have them in couple of days and labor is costing me $ 100. Pep Boys quoted me $ 500 with only new pads, 2 new front rotors, and resurfiesed the rear rotors. I asked them how much for the labor if I bring my own **** in, and $ 220 is what they told me. Plus all those parts were some bullsh!t brand. Does 1 bill sounds about right for the laber?
Andrei
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nismo98
[B]How are Raybestos Pads compaire to Axxis Pads. Also what rotors do Pep Boys use?
AXXIS is a high performance pad while the Raybestos Quiet Stop pad increases braking but not as much. QS pads are also quieter and dust less. Its a trade off, buy according to your needs! I have the QS on 2 cars so I am a little biased. I have had rotors turned at Pep Boys, cost $8 ea which is very fair. Don't know whose rotors they use, I bought Brembo rotor Group Deal when I did mine. $200 + $33 shipping.
[B]How are Raybestos Pads compaire to Axxis Pads. Also what rotors do Pep Boys use?
AXXIS is a high performance pad while the Raybestos Quiet Stop pad increases braking but not as much. QS pads are also quieter and dust less. Its a trade off, buy according to your needs! I have the QS on 2 cars so I am a little biased. I have had rotors turned at Pep Boys, cost $8 ea which is very fair. Don't know whose rotors they use, I bought Brembo rotor Group Deal when I did mine. $200 + $33 shipping.
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Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
You don't need to get them machined. The super shiny surface is better for braking than a freshly machine cut surface. The reason they want to machine them is to make money. What a better way to make one hour worth of labor just letting a brake lathe do everything while you sit around.
""The super shiny surface is better for braking than a freshly machine cut surface. ""Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
You don't need to get them machined. The super shiny surface is better for braking than a freshly machine cut surface. The reason they want to machine them is to make money. What a better way to make one hour worth of labor just letting a brake lathe do everything while you sit around.
Not true. Some mfg. specify a fairly rough machined surface face on their rotors. This allows for proper brake-in of metalic-type brake pads and prevents grabbing/binding and squeeling. A quality brake repair shop will know how to turn a rotor properly for every car. All they have to do is look it up.
If you check the runout of the rotor, and it is within factory spec, and does not have any deep grooves, you can remove the surface glaze by hand sanding rotor surface with 100 grit garnet paper. Theglaze, if not removed, may cause squeeling.
Turning rotors every time you replace pads, unless neccessary, is a waste of money not only for the turning, but the rotor will need to replaced much sooner.
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Originally posted by Bgohan
""The super shiny surface is better for braking than a freshly machine cut surface. ""
Not true. Some mfg. specify a fairly rough machined surface face on their rotors. This allows for proper brake-in of metalic-type brake pads and prevents grabbing/binding and squeeling. A quality brake repair shop will know how to turn a rotor properly for every car. All they have to do is look it up.
If you check the runout of the rotor, and it is within factory spec, and does not have any deep grooves, you can remove the surface glaze by hand sanding rotor surface with 100 grit garnet paper. Theglaze, if not removed, may cause squeeling.
Turning rotors every time you replace pads, unless neccessary, is a waste of money not only for the turning, but the rotor will need to replaced much sooner.
Originally posted by Bgohan
""The super shiny surface is better for braking than a freshly machine cut surface. ""
Not true. Some mfg. specify a fairly rough machined surface face on their rotors. This allows for proper brake-in of metalic-type brake pads and prevents grabbing/binding and squeeling. A quality brake repair shop will know how to turn a rotor properly for every car. All they have to do is look it up.
If you check the runout of the rotor, and it is within factory spec, and does not have any deep grooves, you can remove the surface glaze by hand sanding rotor surface with 100 grit garnet paper. Theglaze, if not removed, may cause squeeling.
Turning rotors every time you replace pads, unless neccessary, is a waste of money not only for the turning, but the rotor will need to replaced much sooner.
I have NEVER had my rotors turned since I bought my car new and I have no warpage and no pull, and now I have 202,000 miles on the Max!
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